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reply posted on 5-9-2011 @ 12:54 AM by Astyanax

reply to post by AwakeinNM

Yeah, you're probably right. We evolved from monkeys like you believe we did. You win. Looks like you're spending a lot of time kicking sand in people's faces on this thread. Feel good, big shot?

All IlluminatusOculus33 did was explain that other animals also overheat in the sun, and try to find shade just as humans do.

That’s ‘kicking sand in people’s faces’? What if he or she had brought up the whole business about reptiles, which are far less well adapted to handling broad ranges of temperature than humans (or mammals of any kind) are?

Please understand that if you choose to believe things that are not true, things that fly in the face of what science has shown to be the truth, then experience (and other people) will point out your errors to you, over and over again. That’s just the way things are; reality is hard to evade. If you choose to take every correction as a personal affront, not only are you being over-sensitive, you are also guaranteeing that you will never come to learn the truth, and your whole life will be filled with unhappy collisions of this kind.

Human beings are no better or worse adapted to life on Earth than any other species of living thing. If you don’t see it, that betrays a lack of knowledge, which can easily be corrected by paying attention to what is really going on around you. But if you refuse to see it, then you are actually embracing falsehood and delusion, and nobody will ever be able to help you. I hope it is not already too late for you to mend your ways.

I agree with you that we did not evolve from monkeys. I bet IlluminatusOculus33 doesn’t think we evolved from monkeys either. Another illusion on your part. See what happens when you won’t look straight at the world?

reply posted on 5-9-2011 @ 03:08 AM by Raskadawg

nice thread, love this stuff.

im not a creationist, i just dont buy it.
if i was classed as anything it would have been an evolutionist until i watched some vid that pointed out that our skin isnt adapted to this planets climate. Not without clothing....

if we had evolved from primates, at which point did we loose our hair in favor of clothes?
theres only a small band across the globe where we could survive naked.
too far north or south of that line and its just too damn cold for us to survive without clothes.

how does one evolve to 'require' clothes to survive?

the vid i had watched was about intervention theory i think. a lot of it would be an interesting debate here i reckon but that one point about our skin did make an eyebrow raise.

reply posted on 5-9-2011 @ 04:23 AM by BrokenCircles

reply to post by fill0000

Actually, no. That is not what it means. No second line.

reply posted on 5-9-2011 @ 07:33 AM by uva3021

reply to post by Raskadawg

We wear clothes because we moved out of our point of origin. Many tribes in equatorial locations across the globe do not wear clothes. A by-product of moving out of tropical climates into harsher and colder climates, which required innovative sartorial to provide warmth, was skin more sensitive to the sun's radiation, which itself was a by-product of lighter-skinned individuals reproducing differentially to create tribal barriers.

reply posted on 5-9-2011 @ 08:44 AM by MrXYZ

Just like your other thread, this one's nonsense too...

1) Not all animals have "night vision" as you claim.
2) The vast majority has some sort of shelter.
3) Baby animals are often just as vulnerable as human babies.

Humans are less adapted to one particular environment, we make up for it with our brain. Don't have feathers to keep you warm? Fine, make a jacket. Just like a monkey uses a stick to fish for magots it can't reach with its bare hands. Or an octopus uses an abandoned bottles as shelter.

Sry, but we're just not that special. Quite impressive, sure, but not special in the grander scheme of things.

reply posted on 5-9-2011 @ 09:14 AM by Unity_99

Some animals are AI. They are a part of the coding of the world around us. Another interesting point is that we're in our own earth hotel room some or more of the time than we realize. There is no time except as a program in our brains, where the only clock ticks. And time can be altered, paused, stopped, rewound, fast forwarded by Higher Ups, and each of us in this school has a team trying to pull us through the traps here, nudge, give us conscience bouts so we don't make train wrecks of our lives and harm others.

In our own families, our loved ones can be perceptions quite a lot of the time or all the time if they've already passed and are out of the earthschool on their time frame.

Not only was this whole school made for us, but its also alot of perception. Ie. a dreamscape in part. Everyone is on their own individual time line.

reply posted on 5-9-2011 @ 09:18 AM by MrXYZ

Originally posted by Unity_99
Some animals are AI. They are a part of the coding of the world around us. Another interesting point is that we're in our own earth hotel room some or more of the time than we realize. There is no time except as a program in our brains, where the only clock ticks. And time can be altered, paused, stopped, rewound, fast forwarded by Higher Ups, and each of us in this school has a team trying to pull us through the traps here, nudge, give us conscience bouts so we don't make train wrecks of our lives and harm others.

In our own families, our loved ones can be perceptions quite a lot of the time or all the time if they've already passed and are out of the earthschool on their time frame.

Not only was this whole school made for us, but its also alot of perception. Ie. a dreamscape in part. Everyone is on their own individual time line.

Which is your BELIEF...not fact

reply posted on 5-9-2011 @ 12:51 PM by EitherWay

This topic is a waste of what ATS is supposed to be for. There are more inportant, intelligent discussions to be had.

reply posted on 5-9-2011 @ 09:23 PM by steveknows

Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by steveknows

We are the most dangerous well adapted predator on the planet and we have the most dangerous natural tools for the job.

It was worth my while persisting with this trainwreck of a thread just to have read your post. A star from me.

There are people on this thread simultaneously claiming that we’re helpless in the face of nature, yet have somehow managed to ravage the natural environment, exterminate numerous species, etc. Clearly they are missing something. I guess it’s the same thing a zoo animal misses after a lifetime of being cooped up in an enclosure and fed by keepers.

Some don’t forget. A business tycoon twenty years my senior once told me how, as a young tea trader, he would go into the jungle with his brother and a dog to hunt for wild boar, deer and the odd sambhur. They travelled – this sounds unlikely but I can vouch that it was often done – on a motorbike. One day, they’d just arrived, found a clearing to camp in and had gone off to fetch water from a nearby stream. On their return, they found a leopard sniffing about the place. The old boy – this was at a cocktail party full of preening socialites – described to me how he and his brother almost suffocated the dog that was with them, trying to keep it from growling. I assumed this was because they were afraid the leopard would attack them, and said something to that effect.

The old man laughed.

'No,’ he said. ‘We were trying to get to the bike before it noticed us.’

‘Get to the bike?’ I asked. ‘What for?’

‘The shotguns were on the bike,’ he replied.

They hadn’t thought, as I had, about the danger, but about what a great ‘bag’ a leopard skin would be.

A few months later, the man who told me this story was indicted for insider trading on my country’s stock exchange. He cheated the judge, though – had a massive stroke and died before he was to appear in court.

I don’t approve of hunting for sport, but some of us will always be predators. And given the right circumstances, nearly all of us would be. Thank you for showing just how good we would be at it, guns or no guns.

I believe about the 2 men and a dog on a bike as I've seen it myself. And I agree with the hunting for sport to me there's no real purpose to it other than a waste for glory. The very example you've given shows just what the pro humans have been saying. Two human animals with no fangs or claws but with a brain that can think abstract thoughts and reach for the weapons that level the playing ground which allowes them fight rather than flight and another animal which has been trained by the human animal to help protect it. That very scene of hunters and a k9 coming across a big cat and being able to do something about it has most likely been repeated millions of times over tens of thousands of years.

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