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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by Magantice
We don't need proof.


Originally posted by Magantice
This is the one place where the truth can be told.

Okay...

I saw God walking down the street today. Its the truth.

Prove me wrong.

Do you see the conundrum you present?
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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 09:52 PM
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I cannot agree more, but I believe it is A MUST for people to check out “the facts, ideas, diatribe, etc” themselves. You, all of us can be the best possible individual to research what you read/hear. Don’t limit yourself to one type of ideological news site/s, (ok, no matter how “pure” no one is in the end utterly objective, it’s not human nature. Sure, listen to the so-called “experts”, but no one has a monopoly on the truth. In the end, we all have the right to our opinion. Let no one say “what do you know”? Pious arrogance is so childish... Not to confuse facts as can be tested, etc, with “truth”. I don’t know what “the truth” is. Perhaps someday. But today. I’m not yet wise enough.

It is our nature to judge everything based on many factors, most of these we are usually not aware of, at least most of the time.). So seek out as many different points of view in the news, and get to know the “hard core” science journals and history as best as you can. We learn from not knowing all the questions we need to ask, so go with the flow. And nothing is “unknowable", forbidden if you will. Some things are hard to slog through, and what we do with what we know, or think we know, reflects our values and ethics. Checking stuff out, in addition to doing ones own research takes time, not everyone does it for kicks, or for a living. But it is a lot of fun, so try to indulge yourself if able. Trust me on this.



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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Prayer of an InfoWarrior

Heavenly Father,

We praise you and thank you for our many blessings, and for the beauty and perfection of your creations. At this time we humbly request many things from you in order to help us build the world that we believe you intended for us.

Help us to deal with the truth as it has been revealed to us in our personal quests. We are in mourning over our new understanding of the world, its history, and the current path for its future unless you intervene and help us. We now understand that there are unseen hands that are influencing our culture, race relations, economy, laws, courts, and governments for their own personal gain and to the detriment of human life on earth.

Grant us discernment to know goodness from evil, truth from deception, and wisdom from foolishness. Please give us the eyes to see and the ears to hear your will. Please guide our paths and our souls. Please give us the strength to acknowledge the ugliness and reality of evil that we encounter on this journey, so that we may know our enemy.

Help us to recognize evil where it has infiltrated our fraternal organizations, military, industries, institutions, government, and places of worship. Help all people to know that any religion preaching hate has been compromised by evil. Help us end the wars, abductions, assassinations, human experimentation, torture, pedophilia, and other abuses that are cloaked in darkness and show no respect for human life. Please help us to ensure that evildoers are not allowed to hide behind badges, uniforms, “covert” operations, “national security,” secret locations, secret societies, guarded gates, high office, or influential friends. Please help us preserve our freedoms, keep our laws just, and bring law-breakers to measured justice. Help us ensure that the most evil are subjected to the things they fear most: disclosure, public scorn, and judicial punishment. Help us to preserve the Constitutional rights that made our county strong. Restore our honor. Bless our veterans.

Grant us the strength of heart, mind, and character needed to band together to battle against the forces of darkness which seek to harm and mislead all your people of earth. Grant us the courage we need to fight for the truth and our children’s future. Please help us provide for our families in these trying economic times that have been orchestrated by the elite who have stolen the wealth of the working people, and profited from tragedy while they produce nothing of value.

Help those who now realize they have taken loathsome, secret oaths of loyalty to organizations or goals that are not in keeping with your laws, nor the just laws of nations. Help them to safely escape those commitments.

Please protect the brave ones who most actively and publicly spread the truth of the plans and actions of the elite, secretive puppeteers who seek power for themselves and tyranny over the masses. We hold these brave ones up to you for your blessings. Please continue to help them in their efforts to provide needed evidence to expose evil to the light of scrutiny. Please protect them and their families from harm. Please also protect the technologies that enable the dissemination of the truth.

Help us to see that we must decide if we are on the side of good or evil, and to then chose wisely and take action. Help us all to use our talents in this endeavor, and to see that prayers and written and spoken words can be effective weapons against evil.

We ask for many things, Lord, that we believe are in keeping with your will. We hope we rise to the challenge to stand with you and for you. Forgive us when we are weak, but please help make us strong. We want to spend eternity praising you and basking in your love. AMEN



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 08:24 PM
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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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Is there anything to that crazy rumor i heard?



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 08:34 PM
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That is a beautiful prayer. I am under one of those loathsome loyalty oaths, and so maybe you can pray for me. I'm not good at prayers, myself, I'm not religious or spiritual, but just because, dud'nt mean it right!...



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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I wonder these days if it was worth it. Going from respected to obscurity to share with strangers that which was completely unwelcome, the truth. Having people tell you the things you've seen, held or worked on, don't exist. I suppose historiand will look back at these days with astonishment at how disconnected and apart we were as a people. How deeply our heads were buried in the sand. How we were played with political subterfuge and told to ignore the water at our feet.

I wonder if the people here who have seen the bunkers, or the fema camps, or followed the radiation trails, or cried sedition, feel the same sense of emptiness and dissapointment that I do . Living with the knowledge that so much could have been done and wasn't. I suppose the bright side to this all is that those worms who will make use of their very expensive holes, will see no mercy. After all, regardless of our faiths, the age of Aquarius belongs to the meek, and no amount of gold will buy forgiveness.

AX
FTNWO



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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This is a wonderful prayer. In the end, when you look back its usually too late. Anything good you do for humanity must be done while you are still breathing. Thank you so very much for sharing this with me, and others. May (your God) bless you and the Heros who talked.



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 09:21 PM
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Yes it is worth it............finially Dick Chaney admitted publicly that flight 93 was shot down on purpose when the plane became a weapon. The truth is usually not pretty. It can be heart breaking. But the truth is the truth and as much as we may not like it, WE THE PEOPLE deserve the truth. Our fathers and sons have died to protect and preserve american freedoms and they above all others deserve the truths. Yes its worth it. Its a matter of conscience, its a matter of honor, its a matter of love for your fellow man.

Those who take an oath to keep secrets and decieve must deal with their own Karma and Judgement.

God Bless the truthers.



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 09:29 PM
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Check out my signature. I cannot agree with you enough.
The shame of it all is many people will live and die and never had the priveledge of the truth. Even though a person will be discredited, mocked, destroyed and or possibly killed for telling the truth, it is within us as humanity to do what we must to leave our childrens children with the truth. Live for something, die for something.............



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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Possibly....................


Mods forgive me for the short answer here. I had no other choice.



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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I believe you. You saw God to today. You saw him in every human being, in every tree in every rock...........you felt his kiss in the wind. I know. I believe you.

I also believe you need an attitude adjustment. Just my 2 cents.



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 01:51 AM
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thank you brothers and sisters, thank you


all hidden truths revealed...



thank you



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 01:04 PM
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Whatever truth there is in the hands of other people will most likely end up here or somewhere like this.
If you've read 100 posts then you have likely encountered a startling truth at least 10 times.
How many bits of footage floating about here are the genuine article? If even just one then it's a world changing event.
The old favourite of the skeptics "pictures or it didn't happen" goes from being a logical, pragmatic approach to a borderline insult when the camera is your own two eyes.
Sometimes I wonder what, for the hardline skeptic, the purpose is in coming here and saying simply "your lying" or asking an eye witness to prove something, If a person had proof then it wouldn't need to be asked for as it would be posted with the claim.
Skeptics are important in these subject matters however tact, manners and basic decency are also needed.



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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The problem with pictures is that they can be photo shopped so easily. Yet your skeptics see pictures a "proof". Oh sure pictures are interesting to add to your story but we have to also understand that pictures are NOT proof. You are correct that it is rude to tell a person what the dont know or didnt see. Thanks for your opinion



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Magantice
reply to post by AlphaExray
 


Yes it is worth it............finially Dick Chaney admitted publicly that flight 93 was shot down on purpose when the plane became a weapon.

Those who take an oath to keep secrets and decieve must deal with their own Karma and Judgement.

God Bless the truthers.


And God Bless those who sow confusion?

Cheney admitted on Sept 16, 2001 during a "Meet the Press" interview that he gave the order to shoot down the plane. Why are you saying this is new news? And you are taking it as gospel that the plane WAS in fact shot down. That in itself is questionable. It does no one any good to present a hypothetical situation as written in stone truth.

Who took an oath to decieve? I hate Cheney as much as the next guy, but he did not lie about anything you are indicating he did. I would suggest in this situation, you are in fact being much more deceitful than he. I assume you simply did not know that most of us have known he admitted to giving the orders over 10 years ago, so you can be forgiven for that, but not for presenting the plane as being "shot down" as truth.

I must say i agree with the decision. It would not have been easy to make, but the possibility of another building being brought down would be obviously worse with a much greater loss of life.
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posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by Magantice
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finially Dick Chaney admitted publicly that flight 93 was shot down on purpose when the plane became a weapon.


Funny how as soon as you read that on the ATS front page, it is undeniably the "truth".

Also funny how you failed to actually read into the incident, or take a logical critical perspective. If you had, you would realize that, while Chaney may have said something to that effect, and maybe even given the order, he absolutely did not say anywhere or anytime that flight 93 was shot down.

Orders are different then outcome. But, i gather your not concerned with outcome. As long as part of the story fits in with your fairytale it becomes the "truth".

Pathetic!

Edit: Gotta love when the poster above you is also kinda like
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posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 06:22 AM
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I did not read about Dick Chaney on ATS. I watched his labor day weekend interview on fox news. How presumptious of you............ Donald Rumsfeld told this a long time ago. (slip of the tongue).



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 06:28 AM
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None of us will ever know what really happened now will we? It doesnt take a genious to figure out that plane wrecks leave body parts. Missles on the other hand incinerate.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 06:32 AM
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Orders are different then outcome. But, i gather your not concerned with outcome. As long as part of the story fits in with your fairytale it becomes the "truth".

Pathetic!

snarky......very snarky





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