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Obama was a Tea Party Member?

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posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 01:34 AM
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I'm just being honest I'm not going to disregard your opinion because of your location.
Have you used their healthcare system? Did it work for you?
Did it cost you much? Were you fixed?

Everything I've seen has been positive.




posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 01:34 AM
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Not my style.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
I'm just being honest I'm not going to disregard your opinion because of your location.
Have you used their healthcare system? Did it work for you?
Did it cost you much? Were you fixed?

Everything I've seen has been positive.

It did work. I did get fixed. Broken arm, London, may moons ago. Good care, BTW.
So if I just went by my experience, it'd be wonderful. (I was actually a proponent, of Nat'l healthcare for the longest time)
I was not exposed to rationing, long waits, poor service (as is emdemic in many cases). It took an education and speaking with others to challege my personal view.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 02:05 AM
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Why? Why let second hand accounts manipulate your first hand experience.
You could debunk them yourself. You KNOW how it is.

See my dream candidate comes years after Paul gets in office.
It is less government but universal healthcare being an exception as it would be important enough to make available to everyone.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 02:07 AM
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Obama isn't a socialist.

Deny ignorance, don't promote it!


 
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posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by beezzer
 


Why? Why let second hand accounts manipulate your first hand experience.
You could debunk them yourself. You KNOW how it is.

See my dream candidate comes years after Paul gets in office.
It is less government but universal healthcare being an exception as it would be important enough to make available to everyone.

If I had a bad experience, then should I just base it off that? People would the say, "Just because your experience was bad, doesn't mean the system is."
I know how it was for me. I had to learn otherwise from friends and family. Trust me (
) having this debate with my uncle (shopkeeper Reagents Park rd, London) is old hat.


See my dream candidate comes years after Paul gets in office.


Same here. No-one presently has me jumping for joy. There are issues that I agree with from a variety of candidates.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 02:23 AM
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Yep. But getting Paul in is an important part of getting the man we want in eventually I think.
Breaking the regular left right cycle is the first step. At least I believe.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
Reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 


Obama isn't a socialist.

Deny ignorance, don't promote it!


 
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lol that deny ignorance thing sounds a lot like Yes We Can backwards when you say it.


Obama could also pull us away from a recession by simply applying Capitalist principles to our economic problems. The logical moves for President Obama would be to rescind the creation of ObamaCare, to massively cut regulations on innovation and businesses, and to cut taxes with the promise that no new taxes would be imposed and current taxes would be lowered and flattened. Obama cannot bring himself to do this because he has been indoctrinated since childhood into believing that Socialism will eventually work in the United States, if only enough personal and corporate wealth can be confiscated to prime the Socialist economic pump.
Fortunately, the majority of the American people now realize that there would never be enough money to subsidize the functioning of a Socialist nation. As Lady Margaret Thatcher said,




“Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them. They then start to nationalise everything, and people just do not like more and more nationalisation, and they're now trying to control everything by other means. They're progressively reducing the choice available to ordinary people.”
lubbockonline.com...



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posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 03:59 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by beezzer
 


Yep. But getting Paul in is an important part of getting the man we want in eventually I think.
Breaking the regular left right cycle is the first step. At least I believe.


Wait I thought Paul was the man you wanted. Who is the man you really want?
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posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 04:29 AM
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Understanding.
Thus proves my point in both threads I've argued with you in.
This is what you corroborate with in the tea party Beezz,



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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Understanding.
Thus proves my point in both threads I've argued with you in.
This is what you corroborate with in the tea party Beezz,


geez whatever man!



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