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reply posted on 3-9-2011 @ 12:01 AM by TheLastStand

Originally posted by Greensage
The originating link may be too HD for my computer as it hangs on it relentlessly. I will consider watching the youtube version and hopefully there is a part 7.

In the interim, never mind GLP, and from what I gather on your thoughts thus far is that all of this is inevitable and the ignorant will be removed from the equation.

Sounds about what we are facing, us against them, so in this series is there a solution? Is it Satanism since that is the originating religion and obviously the language of the elite and the socialites of our Society today?

I don't think I would want to worship satan. Though satan to them represents the "hidden knowledge of the universe". The god of the sun, or the god of illumination. Their religion sucks but I can't really avoid what they did --> they sparked a prolific advancement of civilization. Without that spark we would still be stuck in much earlier ages (like the stone age perhaps, maybe bronze age at best). It was meant to accelerate advancement of civilization and knowledge on an exponential scale. Looking at how things have turned out today, can anybody argue that this goal is certainly being met?

reply posted on 3-9-2011 @ 12:05 AM by TheLastStand

Originally posted by The GUT
Oh, OH! I know, I know: It's the Illuminati?!

I'm hinting that their religion, of satanism, dates back to the first invention of god. They invented god, and spoon fed god to us in order to establish control.

On a personal level god does exist to me, but these illuminati are dellusional they think they actually are the will of god (and if not they beg god to strike them down and it doesn't happen so they justify their nessary evil because god didn't will it not to happen) and that god is on their side. It's hard to tell if these guys are pure evil, or if they feel that there is the possibility of pure good, or if they just embrace the nature of the beast to be both things and that both are fine so long as there is order.

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reply posted on 3-9-2011 @ 12:06 AM by The GUT

Originally posted by TheLastStand

they sparked a prolific advancement of civilization. Without that spark we would still be stuck in much earlier ages (like the stone age perhaps, maybe bronze age at best). It was meant to accelerate advancement of civilization and knowledge on an exponential scale. Looking at how things have turned out today, can anybody argue that this goal is certainly being met?

Ahh...the fallen angels with the freemasons as their puppets?!!

reply posted on 3-9-2011 @ 12:07 AM by ErgoTheConfusion

Originally posted by TheLastStand
On a personal level god does exist to me, but these illuminati are dellusional they think they actually are the will of god...

The Earth lines are not aware of the entire picture. They themselves are not of our Lucifer Group Soul, and as far as they are aware, they are out to 'rule the world', to Control and Enslave, and create as much Suffering and Negativity as is humanly possible. That's what they 'get out of the deal'. World Domination. You'd have to say with that in mind, they're doing a great job. But one of the things they don't know or understand, is that our (Venusian Power Lines) agenda, is ultimately for the Highest Good of all concerned, in providing you with the Catalyst. If they were aware of this Truth, there is a slight risk that they would not have done their jobs properly...

www.illuminati-news.com...
www.lawofone.info...

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reply posted on 3-9-2011 @ 12:09 AM by TheLastStand

Originally posted by The GUT

Originally posted by TheLastStand

they sparked a prolific advancement of civilization. Without that spark we would still be stuck in much earlier ages (like the stone age perhaps, maybe bronze age at best). It was meant to accelerate advancement of civilization and knowledge on an exponential scale. Looking at how things have turned out today, can anybody argue that this goal is certainly being met?

Ahh...the fallen angels with the freemasons as their puppets?!!

no angels, ordinary people from an originating source of intellectuals who made a pact. This dates back before the bible, these angels would be a visualization of this pact, how some are part of heaven and some are part of hell and how there is a constant struggle between the two. Sure, but beware there is just as much non-truth in the bible as there is truth. All religions have been carefully designed to keep the slaves in check.

reply posted on 3-9-2011 @ 12:15 AM by The GUT

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So, where would the documentation be of events in the pre-biblical era? Where did this technology come from? If they invented God and all religions are you the saying there is no God? You seem to believe in God in another statement.

reply posted on 3-9-2011 @ 12:18 AM by TheLastStand

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yes I saw a few threads like this, the ats one I saw got written off I think I may have even posted it and ruled the guy off as a nutjob. As I said, still reading that thread the second time, lots of reading to do, but maybe it isn't so much as this guy being credible as that he had a few seeds of truth hidden even in what he says. And no I am not that guy I've been on here long enough, people know I don't talk like that I would have to spend hours carefully thinking things out since I wasn't taught to think that way from birth. I'm suggesting this could have been a message passed from one person to the next reposting what originally was an insider but having the fun of posing as the insider after getting their epiphany, not really sure how clear of one this guy had, I might be-able to tell you in a few days time what I can reason out, but again, this will take a bit of time to review. There is a way out of this for humanity but time is definitely running short. I don't have to use a proxy to hide myself btw, nor do I have any sort of time limit. I'm here till I can hash out the best way to relay this epiphany that I had because the interconnected bits of reality and history become rediculously clear once you construct things with their agenda in mind, and the brilliance of their instrument crafting. This achievement is pretty much the establishment of a collective intelligence, hence why they are so successful at what they do --> each person like a subconcious thought, chaste/classism like layers leading to the concious, with the leaders as the direct concious thought. Maybe they think they are god because they created one, an intangeable artificial lifeform comprising of a living and evolving document that has thrived throughout the ages.

reply posted on 3-9-2011 @ 12:20 AM by TheLastStand

Originally posted by The GUT
reply to post by TheLastStand

So, where would the documentation be of events in the pre-biblical era? Where did this technology come from? If they invented God and all religions are you the saying there is no God? You seem to believe in God in another statement.

I do believe in god, but from my own observations of the universe and reality has led me to that belief. I do not believe in the god as offered up to the people in order to puppeteer them. People are not god. These people think they are because god hasn't struck their agenda down enough so as to prevent it from adapting and continuing to extend it's control.

Let me clarify even further --> islam is not god, christianity is not god, judeaism is not god. Religions are like any invention, the first ones were crude but evolved over time to be more powerful.

The technology came from philisophical leaders, who were surrounded by rogue tribes of commoners who would attack their tribe; an advantage was needed so, the distillate of this idea is what we are living under today. Slavery twisted around until judgement day comes along to get rid of the slaves (which they made incrementally of the commoners), leaving behind a society of free masters. Quite literally if you look at the right angle you can see the traits of "satan" written all over this ancient pact referred to in the law today. Grab the law books and if you gain the right insight you'll actually figure out that everything has 3 meanings in law:
A meaning for the commoner, a meaning for the engineers (masons), and a meaning for the leaders (the illuminated). Perhaps this is what was meant by reference to the 3 species of man (near the end of the movie). The seperation of species in their eyes is the perspective and the chaste of the man.

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reply posted on 3-9-2011 @ 12:29 AM by Greensage

OK, I owe the OP an apology...this video series sucks! Literally, it is a monotone voice and the context is the kind that would delight a lawyer in the throws of ecstatic rapture!

No thank you, I will remain a slave! The thing is that if you discover Scripture in your life, through the living Bible, it is not too hard to see where all of this is going and where it originated from. Regardless of original design it is a design of Demons that want the rewards of our Souls, not our money, not our labor, not our sweat, or our tears. Demons want our Souls.

I am not going to get caught up in the semantics of the Devil. It is filled with tripe, the likes of which are unpalatable to even the most seasoned dish!

We are responsible for our own Slavery. The delight of the masses through Media, through Commercialism, and through Greed. Just break the chains! Why get into the reasoning when it is so easy to recognize the source of this Evil?

I blame the Kabbalah and I blame Satan and neither have a place in my Heart.

In my opinion Satan is Society and is not the Devil himself but rather a product of it, let go of Society and the Devil is but a demon with a desire and nothing more; soon to be cast back through the Leviathan to its own Kingdom of which it came!

I won't bother this thread any longer, Sorry OP, I really did not mean to be such a thorn about it.

reply posted on 3-9-2011 @ 12:31 AM by ErgoTheConfusion

reply to post by TheLastStand

Your response indicates to me that you aren't seeing the message being provided yet.

You still see division where there is none.

My heartfelt expression is that you will find the sources you (we/they) need to continue to grow this awareness. The Tao Te Ching, plus Law of One, the perspective Buddha worked hard to provide, the Nag Hammadi writings, anything that starts digging into the Primary Nature of consciousness over Matter and the true nature of the universal mind. These are all able to provide a bigger picture perspective than that offered by those still trapped chasing legal documents around. That aspect is definitely worth understanding, but it is but one face of the "game" that is afoot here. It's a good game... it's a powerful game... it can even be a scary game... but it's still a game.

God/Tao/Infinity can not be anything but that which it wishes to be. Nothing within it can truly be against it. It can however, create the illusion of NOT being that which it is in the process of experiencing what it is like to rediscover itself.

Since you do believe in some form of God, you seem to be putting a rather surprising limitation upon it, suggesting that he/she/it isn't able to leave an even deeper hidden tradition behind to be discovered. One that doesn't leave you in fear or seeing an "other self" as inherently evil. You are assigning to your God the property that there is something that can happen without its consent. That is a curious property to apply to that which is ALL... including the things we in our limited perspective assign the name "evil".

The most important part of the following story is the description of "The Fall" and how/why it came about:
www.templeilluminatus.com...
(easier to read non-yellow text: forum.davidicke.com...)

These are all perspectives... there is no one perspective to infinity... the catalyst provided by these "evil" people is there to greatly accelerate our ability to see, synthesize, and grow from all these perspectives.

Namaste!

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reply posted on 3-9-2011 @ 01:27 AM by TheLastStand

Originally posted by ErgoTheConfusion
reply to post by TheLastStand

Your response indicates to me that you aren't seeing the message being provided yet.

You still see division where there is none.

My heartfelt expression is that you will find the sources you (we/they) need to continue to grow this awareness. The Tao Te Ching, plus Law of One, the perspective Buddha worked hard to provide, the Nag Hammadi writings, anything that starts digging into the Primary Nature of consciousness over Matter and the true nature of the universal mind. These are all able to provide a bigger picture perspective than that offered by those still trapped chasing legal documents around. That aspect is definitely worth understanding, but it is but one face of the "game" that is afoot here. It's a good game... it's a powerful game... it can even be a scary game... but it's still a game.

God/Tao/Infinity can not be anything but that which it wishes to be. Nothing within it can truly be against it. It can however, create the illusion of NOT being that which it is in the process of experiencing what it is like to rediscover itself.

Since you do believe in some form of God, you seem to be putting a rather surprising limitation upon it, suggesting that he/she/it isn't able to leave an even deeper hidden tradition behind to be discovered. One that doesn't leave you in fear or seeing an "other self" as inherently evil. You are assigning to your God the property that there is something that can happen without its consent. That is a curious property to apply to that which is ALL... including the things we in our limited perspective assign the name "evil".

The most important part of the following story is the description of "The Fall" and how/why it came about:
www.templeilluminatus.com...
(easier to read non-yellow text: forum.davidicke.com...)

These are all perspectives... there is no one perspective to infinity... the catalyst provided by these "evil" people is there to greatly accelerate our ability to see, synthesize, and grow from all these perspectives.

Namaste!
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Personally I am not a fan of icke, however, I might have a new perspective on what he has to say. As for that link to templeilluminatus, I think I now know what that guy was talking about. I won't be worshipping satan, as I have my own personal relationship with god and he goes neither by the name god nor satan. Perhaps the illuminati are right in that there are necessary evils to achieve the goal of an earth that can be ready to enter the universe as a mature space faring race. Perhaps aliens came along and seeded us with everything we needed to get there, I mean this instrument is incredibly well crafted and perhaps too well for philosophers could have come up with so long ago. I don't have all of the answers really because so much of history has been destroyed and corrupted. Personally I think that in a society of masters everyone is free to believe in whatever god they want, that is something they discover on their own, and it matters not the name of the god. Maybe you are right and it is people and their souls who are the god, living in a holographic universe, however, I enjoy this world too much to think that we have the ultimate control over this -- because before us something still created the universe and made it possible for us to exist --> to me that is what god did. He did something simple, didn't spend 7 days creating stuff, he setup an apparatus and set it into motion and from the resulting chaos we came into being, as children of a god that does the same as us and builds/creates things. The purpose of such a creation is to discover information and to expand perspective. Lots of these concepts work for me, but I have no evidence of re-incarnation, no evidence of there being anything beyond life, and my opinion is that we merely wink out of existence. The eternal component of ourself is that we were here and we left our imprint upon the reality like that of a butterfly flapping it's wings in south america and producing a monsoon on the other side of the planet.

And if one discovers if they are in such a matrix then how about some pespectives as to what people think their way out of it is?

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