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Whites Become Minority in America

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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by Sternblut

Originally posted by Muckster

Originally posted by Jepic

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by CherubBaby
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Thanks for the thread. Minority or not. I think the real issue at hand is Americans are becoming a minority in America..
S/F



Are you suggesting only whites are "Americans"???



Even though I don't live in America I'd say yes. Americans (as in the ones that founded this country and fought of the british) are white. Anyone other race is just americanised. Even if they were born in America.


What about the Chinese who built the railways and worked in construction. Or the Black people who helped define American culture with blues and Jazz and worked the plantations that helped the economy. Or the Italians who gave America their fantastic food, not to mention a few good boxers and "ol blue eyes" himself.

Oh, and African Americans and native American Indians thought against the British too.

America is made up of many different people, some white European some not... Polish, Irish, English, African, Asian, Chinese etc...

And that’s not even mentioning the Native American Indians who are the actual true Americans.

Peace


regrettable I can't find a copy of the declaration of independence, but after it says all men are created equal, it follows up with only white men. seriously lol find a copy of it and it's right there. I'm surprised I can't google it!



Here you go. Have a go at your point.
Link to the Declaration of Independence



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by Nephalim
Why does Russia today care where minorities live and why are you guys bothered by it?



Because Russia today is a propaganda arm of Putin's gov't just like Pravda used to be. Pretty much all the info in there is designed to stir up trouble or push there cause allong further. Likely the stats don't show whites as a minority overall just in certain urban areas (like using harlem as a basis for all the US), so they are trying to increase racial tension.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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i certainly hope so, let's hope lessons have been learn't and noted from history and not repeated. otherwise the U.S has an uncertain future.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by jtap66
I just hope the other majority races treat us with a bit more respect than we as caucasians have traditionally treated them.



Other races have never treated white people nicely in the past (or the present - see comments on South Africa later in this thread), cant see them doing so in the future.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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Well let me just say generally I never agreed to racial or other discrimination.
But I know it when I see it.
And currently it's no longer a matter of academic equality.
The liberal extremists have just thrown racial ideology upside down.
That is: they want active discrimination and "revenge" for all colonialism.
So, in SA we still have the apartheid race classifications (and only a few have challenged them till now), but now they go in reverse.
I'm sorry, but apartheid in reverse is still apartheid!
We were promised a non-sexist/non-racist SA in 1994!

Anyway, I hear there's a good new book out about post-apartheid lessons for America: "Into the Cannibal's Pot" by former liberal Ilana Mercer.
www.ilanamercer.com...

It appears that one of her points is that when good people are made criminals for blatantly defending themselves, then a country is leaning towards a Marxist dictatorship.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:22 PM
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I don't mind that much.

And this is slightly off topic, but I think people should just get over the fact that there are different races on Earth and that is that. There's no minorities or superiors. I'm never offended or take things too personally when it comes to "racism" and I don't think anyone else should either. People are black. People are white. People are Asian. Get over it



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by kolumbus
I don't mind that much.

And this is slightly off topic, but I think people should just get over the fact that there are different races on Earth and that is that. There's no minorities or superiors. I'm never offended or take things too personally when it comes to "racism" and I don't think anyone else should either. People are black. People are white. People are Asian. Get over it


When people fully understand that this, the combination of all races, all religions and all beliefs and ideas is what makes us great, they wont be bothered by these articles anymore. They'll see right through them.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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regrettable I can't find a copy of the declaration of independence, but after it says all men are created equal, it follows up with only white men. seriously lol find a copy of it and it's right there. I'm surprised I can't google it!


Really??? I've never seent that in the declaration of independence.


Maybe it was wishful thinking???


Honestly...what is your angle here? Do you think America would be better with only whites living here? Or are you ok with some minorities, you know to tend the garden, clean the house, and cook your chinese food?

But WHOA...let's not get crazy and let them almost be equal in numbers to whites....THAT is unnacceptable.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Its not the Human race when science says Africans are the only pure humans. We of European decent are part Neandethal.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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regrettable I can't find a copy of the declaration of independence, but after it says all men are created equal, it follows up with only white men. seriously lol find a copy of it and it's right there. I'm surprised I can't google it!


Really??? I've never seent that in the declaration of independence.


Maybe it was wishful thinking???


Honestly...what is your angle here? Do you think America would be better with only whites living here? Or are you ok with some minorities, you know to tend the garden, clean the house, and cook your chinese food?

But WHOA...let's not get crazy and let them almost be equal in numbers to whites....THAT is unnacceptable.


Hell yea it is unacceptable! At least in Europe.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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In reply to the South African comments:
My folks live in SA, they never left. Yes my Dad had to train some "affirmative action" people for senior positions. As he did that without grumbling or feeling poor me, how unfair this is, they promoted him for his great attitude and experience.
Living under Apartheid was a nightmare for anyone with a conscious and pretty deadly for those not classified as “white” (yes you could be reclassified to NON WHITE if you upset the right people, which could also strip you of your citizenship). Yes the country has a lot of troubles, and a few scary political figures, but that will never make the previous fascist Apartheid regime any thing other than abhorrent. The violence there is pretty bad, but guess what it was always pretty bad, just not in the “white” areas as most of the policing was focused on ensuring the safety of the white population, some of whom were hideously bigoted and cruel. It is a total miracle the place did not turn into a bloodbath, whites could/did treat non whites with utter distain, disrespect and worse, then generally were not held accountable, Kudos to the Rainbow nation and may they find their way to peace and prosperity.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:38 PM
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So where do you see the prosperous people of all races in the US, with small responsible families fitting into the larger global picture of failed states and irresponsible procreative traditions that can only be relived by allowing them and their traditions access to Western countries like the US by any means necessary?

Wouldn't you say that's not just accommodating immigrants but asking for a never ending flood?
When the US got their "melting pot", how many were from a vastly dissimilar culture?



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by jtap66

I just hope the other majority races treat us with a bit more respect than we as caucasians have traditionally treated them.



Isnt it racist to presume other races are better than whites?????????????????

But you dont believe that do you because you are HOPING its so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

History tells us the strong take from the weak. Those who have a strong identity,be it
racial,religious, or ethnic will oppress those weaker than themselves.

And all these changes have been engineered by the RICH ELITE so they make more profit
and acquire more power.
edit on 2-9-2011 by RRokkyy because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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Doesnt matter what I say because I knew I'd get called a racist.
Pro-white sounds pretty racist doesnt it?
Affirmative action for whites sounds pretty racist right?


Pro-White/Pro-Black
Affirmative action for white or black

All racist to me... In my experience anyone who is pro any race is normally a complete idiot. And if your government accepts one group of pro whatever’s, but not the other, is that the fault of one particular race? or a fault of the government? I prefer to blame the government due to the fact that there are idiots in all races but it’s up to the government to recognise the idiots and not pander to them.




Racist is now a term to describe whites only.
BTW Every creature on the planet is racist. Racism is prefering your race over another, if you have a girlfriend/boyfriend hubby whatever of the same race you could be called racist.




When I first started dating my wife (I am white my wife is black) we were harassed racially, in the office, by a small group of black women. My wife eventually told our boss and action was taken against these bigots. Our boss, who was white, said he would not tolerate racism in the work place. Legislation in England makes it quite clear that racism is not isolated to one race or colour. Look up the definition in the dictionary and you will not find it to be “White man being mean to black man”
With regards to your comment about “Every creature on the planet is racist” No. sorry, maybe in your circle of friends everyone is racist but not in mine. As I explained before, I am white, my wife is black, some of my friends are in same race relationships, and some are mixed race. We all picked our partners simply because we fell in love. No sinister race plot involved in it. In the past I’ve had White girlfriends, Asian girlfriends, black girlfriends... in fact the only women I’ve never dated is Oriental (not for the want of trying just wasn’t lucky enough)

Also, by this statement alone you have confessed to your own racism... cool... just admit it... get it out there!!




Equality doesnt exist in nature, nor in the human world. Such an idea is impossible. Even between two blacks, two whites, or two women or whatever, one will always be better than the other. That's the way it is.



OK... so why are you crying about how unfairly white people are being treated?? Why not just except as part of nature???




Frankly I agree with the majority of these posts. Where does my 7 immigrant tax break come in? Job promotions, healthcare and welfare kick in? Being an american doesnt get you much these days when your rights and privileges are given to people who enter your country illegally. My significant other happens to be an immigrant, and they don't get benefits or tax breaks or anything like that. They happen to be white, and russian. They found this article for me. They are concerned about russian news, but apparently, russians are just as concerned about us!



For years, some white people have moaned about black people playing the race card... and of course there are SOME black people who do this; I’ve witnessed it myself on a couple of occasion. One example was a black guy at work who, whenever something didn’t go his way, would cry "It’s because I’m black and the white man is holding me back" yadda yadda blah blah...


However, isn’t that now what some white people are now doing... Didn’t get a job "Its because of all the Immigrants" Didn’t get a promotion "it’s because of Affirmative action"

Isnt that what you are doing??

It’s the same tune but different singer...



Peace

edit on 2-9-2011 by Muckster because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by Frankenchrist
Its not the Human race when science says Africans are the only pure humans. We of European decent are part Neandethal.


Every race is pure. It's when they mix that they become un-pure. In other words, hybrids.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:41 PM
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The word missing from your comment just for clarification is 'after'. ie 'early humans mated with neanderthals after we moved out of africa'.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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Just because you like one race above all others because of let's say physical appearance doesn't make you racist. What makes you racist is hating other races. In other words seeing them as OVERALL inferior.

Personal preference doesn't make you racist.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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Well, I cannot discount your experiences.
Most of the crime is still outside the white areas, and seemingly it has little to do with selective policing now.
I don't think anyone could be reclassified simply for upsetting somebody in power, and this never happened to my knowledge (people were reclassified for a number of personal reasons however).
Apartheid was wrong, and even most whites voted for change in 1992.

But what is happening now is also wrong.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Is this Abovetopsecret.com or st0rmfront.org?

I sometimes get confused when I wander into threads like these.

If you aren't a racist, this shouldn't bother you. Clearly we have some folks that are bothered by this, based off of their comments about how they can go on Section 8 now.

Newsflash racist ATSers: Not every minority fits into the narrow stereotypes that your redneck mothers and fathers have drilled into your heads.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by halfoldman
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Well let me just say generally I never agreed to racial or other discrimination.
But I know it when I see it.
And currently it's no longer a matter of academic equality.
The liberal extremists have just thrown racial ideology upside down.
That is: they want active discrimination and "revenge" for all colonialism.
So, in SA we still have the apartheid race classifications (and only a few have challenged them till now), but now they go in reverse.
I'm sorry, but apartheid in reverse is still apartheid!
We were promised a non-sexist/non-racist SA in 1994!

Anyway, I hear there's a good new book out about post-apartheid lessons for America: "Into the Cannibal's Pot" by former liberal Ilana Mercer.
www.ilanamercer.com...

It appears that one of her points is that when good people are made criminals for blatantly defending themselves, then a country is leaning towards a Marxist dictatorship.





“If you want to witness the end result of what in America is called ‘diversity,’ you must read Into the Cannibal’s Pot. ‘Diversity’ is a euphemism for racial retribution administered mostly by guilty white liberals in universities, corporations, and government. It is a thoroughly collectivist notion that condones punishing the current generation of white males for the sins of the past. It’s most extreme form is practiced in post-Apartheid South Africa, and its effects are meticulously documented by Ilana Mercer (who also writes marvelously): rampant black-on-white crime, racist labor laws that have created ‘The world’s most extreme affirmative action program’; the confiscation of private property; economic socialism; state-sponsored terrorism; and, most sickeningly, the idolization of the corrupt and murderous Zimbabwean dictator, Robert Mugabe. The Western media ignore all of this because of their ideological love affair with the communistic African National Congress and, frankly, their support for many of these same policies.” - THOMAS J. DILORENZO, professor of economics, Loyola College, Maryland, author of the best-selling The Real Lincoln, Lincoln Unmasked, and most recently, Hamilton’s Curse “Ilana Mercer’s well-documented, encompassing study is at once heartbreaking, infuriating, illuminating and instructive. Ethnic cleansing is underway in the once great nation of South Africa, but Americans hear nothing of it; they are deliberately shielded by the same parties that served to bring it about, the liberal elites in Western governments and the press who believe that white South Africans ‘have it coming.’ It is white guilt and the so-called right of black reprisal extrapolated to ghastly extremes; political correctness on steroids, and all in the name of craven progressive ideology. If the West is ever to occupy anything resembling moral high ground - not to mention avoiding this fate itself - it will have to come to terms with its part in South Africa’s demise, and the misery, degradation and naked horror of those who now suffer.” - ERIK RUSH, columnist and author of Negrophilia: From Slave Block to Pedestal-America’s Racial Obsession. Erik was the first to break the story of President (then Senator) Barack Obama’s ties to the militant, Afrocentric, Chicago preacher Reverend Jeremiah Wright.



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