how much closer is Comet Elenin going to get to the earth? readings show closer as the days go on.

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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:47 PM
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If any of the information the the public has is correct, around Sept. 26 , Elenin will be between the earth and the sun
so if any of the theorys on earth quakes and volcanos are relative to Elenin we'll know this month , and we should be able to see something. ( less than 4 weeks)
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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On September 26 Elenin will be above the ecliptic and thus will not be between the Sun and the Earth.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:26 PM
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That could be a distinction without a difference. The alignment is close enough. It is said that the last thing an aging prizefighter looses is his "punch". Even if Elenin is kinda used up by time, it could still make a big mess here.




posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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How close is "close enough"?

But the statement was "between the earth and the sun". It won't be and even if it were there would be (will be) no more effects from it than there were when Halley's comet did pass between the Earth and the Sun in 1910. None.
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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How close is "close enough"?

But the statement was "between the earth and the sun". It won't be and even if it were there would be (will be) no more effects from it than there were when Halley's comet did pass between the Earth and the Sun in 1910. None.
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Assuming that all comets are the same and the electric universe theory is bollox.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:36 PM
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All comets are not the same.

They have different compositions. Some are larger than others. Some break up. Some don't. But they all are affected by gravity in the same way and none of them affect planets (unless they hit them) apart from providing occasional meteor showers.

So, when nothing happens will the EU supporters go away?



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:44 PM
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Phage! Isn't it better that the "danger" had a time period or event horizon? Elenin and Nibiru will come and go.

What if all the recent happenings were caused by something else, like the not so gradual loss of the earth's magnetic field? I personally would rather face Elenin and Nibiru.




posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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All comets are not the same.

They have different compositions. Some are larger than others. Some break up. Some don't. But they all are affected by gravity in the same way and none of them affect planets (unless they hit them) apart from providing occasional meteor showers.

So, when nothing happens will the EU supporters go away?

Wouldn't gravity effect a larger comet per say than a smaller one differently?



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:54 PM
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"All the recent happenings" happen. All the time.

Earthquakes happen. They always have and always will (as far as humans are concerned).

The climate is changing. There is some question as to why and to how much it will change. But the indications are that it began changing more than 50 years ago.

The Earth's magnetic field has weakened about 10% over the past 150 years but it is still stronger than it has been in the past. There is no reason to believe it is being "lost".

There is no reason to think any of it has anything to do with a particularly insignificant comet or a planet invented by an economist who fancied himself a Sumerian scholar.
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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"All the recent happenings" happen. All the time.

Earthquakes happen. They always have and always will (as far as humans are concerned).

The climate is changing. There is some question as to why and to how much it will change. But the indications are that it began changing more than 50 years ago.

The Earth's magnetic field has weakened about 10% over the past 150 years but it is still stronger than it has been in the past. There is no reason to believe it is being "lost".

And how often does science prove it's self wrong?



There is no reason to think any of it has anything to do with a particularly insignificant comet or a planet invented by an economist who fancied himself a Sumerian scholar.
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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Well, if anything messy happens, I hope you will volunteer to help clean things up.

Seems only right.




posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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No.
The force of gravity is proportional to the product of the masses of the objects. Since the Sun is vastly more massive than any comet (or planet) the mass of the comet becomes insignificant in orbital calculations (unless you want to get really, really, really accurate.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 07:18 PM
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And how often does science prove it's self wrong?


It depends on what kind of science you're talking about. Theoretical science can change quite a bit. But when it comes to nuts and bolt things like orbital mechanics, not so much. That works just fine.

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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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So regardless of how large an object is,the suns gravitational pull on a comet versus planet at the same distance would be the same regardless of mass?



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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And how often does science prove it's self wrong?


It depends on what kind of science you're talking about. Theoretical science can change quite a bit. But when it comes to nuts and bolt things like orbital mechanics, not so much. That works just fine.

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Is orbital mechanics based on the law of physics?



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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It disintigrated, like NASA's ability to reach the space station. OTV2?

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FTNWO



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 07:47 PM
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Not exactly. I said that for comets and planet sized objects the mass of the object becomes insignificant in the calculations for orbital movement. But orbital motion is governed by the force of gravity between two objects.

For example:
The Earth takes 365.194 days (roughly) to orbit the Sun at 1 AU.
A medium sized comet (220,000,000,000,000.00 kg) would take 365.194 days.
A rock of 100 kg would take 365.194 days.
Jupiter would take 365.020 days.
A planet 1000 times the mass of Earth (3 Jupiters) would take 364.647 days.
www.calctool.org...

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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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Is orbital mechanics based on the law of physics?

Several of them actually.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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Not exactly. I said that for comets and planet sized objects the mass of the object becomes insignificant in the calculations for orbital movement. But orbital motion is governed by the force of gravity between two objects.

For example:
The Earth takes 365.194 days (roughly) to orbit the Sun at 1 AU.
A medium sized comet (220,000,000,000,000.00 kg) would take 365.194 days.
A rock of 100 kg would take 365.194 days.
Jupiter would take 365.020 days.
A planet 1000 times the mass of Earth (3 Jupiters) would take 364.647 days.
www.calctool.org...

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Can you clarify for me the difference between the motion and movement of an orbital object?Sorry for all the questions



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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Does the sun effect objects differently when there is higher solar activity or dormant periods?





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