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Scaremongering about Fukushima radiation is damaging

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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 09:29 AM
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Scaremongering about Fukushima radiation is damaging


www.newscientist.com

ALARMIST predictions that the long-term health effects of the Fukushima nuclear accident will be worse than those following Chernobyl in 1986 are likely to aggravate harmful psychological effects of the incident. That was the warning heard at a conference on radiation research in Warsaw, Poland, this week.
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 09:29 AM
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I know this is about Fukushima, and usually we transfer such material to the JAPAN forum where all of this information is collected by our interested members.... BUT

This conference (14th International Congress of Radiation Research) in Warsaw, Poland was seized by a professor to make the well-received pronouncement that ...


"The Japanese did the right thing, providing stable iodine to ensure that radioactive doses to children were minimal,"


Who also relayed that:


Thomas says. Japanese researchers attending the meeting are upset, she adds. "They're saying: 'Please tell the truth, because no one believes us'.


I found this interesting... in the article the author adds...


Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency report that the release of radioactivity from Fukushima is about 10 per cent that of Chernobyl.


Yet, something tells me that they engendered the disbelief they are lamenting by their own desires to 'control' the sentiments of the Japanese people, and by extension, the world.

I did a little digging; because, in light of the conspiratorial aspects of the public information campaign, it seemed quite a 'projection' of support for the Japanese official contention that "all is well."

This article comes to us by way of the New Scientist. This organization is the "property" of Reed Business Information. who is a huge business concern; one which has roots in Europe and Asia as well as the US and Australia.

I am trying to find if other media publishers within the Reed Business Information family are also disseminating the industry-friendly line that all the concern over Fukushima's radiation leakage is overblown.... perhaps some members could find some too....

The professor cited in the short but to the point article claims:


"The media has a hell of a lot of responsibility here, because the worst post-Chernobyl effects were the psychological consequences and this shouldn't happen again."


Imagine that. A radiation oncology specialist who has focused greatly on the Chernobyl incident claiming that "psychological damage" was the worst aspect of the accidental exposure to radiation..... Is it me? Or does that seem patently outrageous to state, coming from an academician like the UK's Geraldine Thomas.

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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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I can believe that. Warning people about danger makes them afraid of the danger and fear is the only thing we have to fear.

Better to just let them remain ignorant and die. Yay! I'm thinking like a big-government liberal!



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 09:34 AM
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The lack of credible information is THE MOST psychologically damaging if you ask me.

I know we atleast know how to DETECT radiation. Please, media, can we all come to a consensus aout the Fukushima fallout?!!?



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 09:34 AM
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How long before all of the 'good psychological news' comes out? Think of the long-term savings in the carbon footprint with all of those dead people! Yay!



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 09:37 AM
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Scaremongering about Fukushima radiation is damaging?
Radiation from Fukushima is damaging.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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So,in essence ,they are saying "ignorance is bliss".
Some people would like to know how you are going to die,and some people don't want to know.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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Widespread radioactive contamination including Cesium with a half life of about 30 years, and Plutonium that can have a half life of up to 24,000 years and the long term accumulation of these radioactive particulates in humans through ingestion, respiration etc and the long term health risks, mutations and cancers will take years to be seen.

There is no need for scaremongering now, what is the point in knowing?

Even the smallest amounts of these dangerous radioactive elements in the body can and will cause major health problems over time... It can decay slowly inside of you for many years directly irradiating tissues and organs in your body.

This is not going to be only confined to Japan.

Psychological impact from fear may be a short term concern, there simply isn't anything they can do about the more serious real health risks from this in the long term.

Right, so don't worry.... Be happy, be productive, you have nothing to fear... Its all scaremongering!





posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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Who needs iodine when you can be protected behind a heavy sheath of spin!

IRM

edit on 2/9/11 by InfaRedMan because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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On one hand, the information that is coming out of some different sources is showing us that Japan is pretty screwed.
And what exactly are they going to do? How do you make this better? Sure, we can learn from it and make changes to existing plants and legislation, but in this particular instance, how do you fix it? Can you cure radiation sickness? As time goes on, and more information is accepted, perhaps lawsuits and legislation can help prevent it from happening again (although I doubt it).
Then again....
If it were me, I'd want to know. If I was over there with my two daughters and I saw them and their friends with nosebleeds and other ailments, I'd want to know whose a** to kick. The population does have the right to call the officials to an accounting for the way things have been and are being managed. They have the right and the responsibility to do so. And so maybe they can't cure the sickness (?) but they can grab the bull by the horns and demand answers.
It sounds as if the people aren't the dumb sheeple the govt really wants them to be. They're looking at what is going on with their kids and animals and land and each other and realizing something is really messed up, so what is the truth?
If the media bears any responsibility it is to show that there are multiple sides to this story and not to just take the side of the establishment that tells you to move along and keep your mouth shut.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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Indeed!

How dare anyone cause fear amongst a population that is being poisoned by the worst radiation release in history? ( I don't care what lies they are spewing about 10% of Chernobyl!)




posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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Since when do we know what is good and bad for ourselves????

How dare we question their authority and BS line about how much radiation is acceptable in our envrionment.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 10:22 AM
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I wonder how many of the "anti alarmists" are going to help in the clean up effort?

Talk's cheap.......



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 10:39 AM
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Heres some of the latest pictures of the plant released a few days ago.


Dust-sampling Opening of Reactor Building of Unit 1, Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station pictured on August 28, 2011. Released August 30, 2011


Dust-sampling Opening of Reactor Building of Unit 2, Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station pictured on August 29, 2011. Released August 30, 2011


inside of the reactor containment vessel of Unit 4, Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Station. Opening an airlock door for workers. Pictured on August 29, 2011


edit on 2-9-2011 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 11:09 AM
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I'll just simply state that it amuses me how popular the comments containing no real information are on this forum.

"Yeah, right, more lies!" tends to be the typical response to any hard facts being posted.

In the mean time, life on this planet should not exist, if you believe alarmist claims. The coal power plants in China have saturated Japan with several hundred times as much radioactive material as the Fukushima plant did.

Unfortunately; stupidity is not, in and of itself, lethal in concentration.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 11:17 AM
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Because, you know, radiation only harms people who are stressed:


"The effects of radiation do not come to people who are happy and laughing, they come to people who are weak-spirited."


So says Shunichi Yama#a, a professor at the university who serves as vice president at Fukushima Medical University, said in an interview posted August 18, 2011

More from the same interview:


SPIEGEL: People want clear answers. Where is it safe? And where is it not?

Yama#a: We don't have those answers. When people ask me: "Are doses below 100 millisievert 100 percent safe?" Then I have to answer as a scientist: "I don't know."
emphasis mine

More "we don't know..."

If nothing is truly known, then how can they tell us that it's not dangerous?


SPIEGEL: What kind of health risk from the radiation will the people around the plant in Fukushima have to face?

Yama#a: I do not think there will be any direct effect of the radiation for the population. The doses are too small.


And this is a university professor. Who studies radiation effects.


SPIEGEL: Are you also researching the mental effects of the disaster?

Yama#a: Of course. We know from Chernobyl that the psychological consequences are enormous. Life expectancy of the evacuees dropped from 65 to 58 years -- not because of cancer, but because of depression, alcoholism and suicide. Relocation is not easy, the stress is very big. We must not only track those problems, but also treat them. Otherwise people will feel they are just guinea pigs in our research.


Well, at least he has an understanding of how people feel.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by Aim64C
I'll just simply state that it amuses me how popular the comments containing no real information are on this forum.

"Yeah, right, more lies!" tends to be the typical response to any hard facts being posted.

In the mean time, life on this planet should not exist, if you believe alarmist claims. The coal power plants in China have saturated Japan with several hundred times as much radioactive material as the Fukushima plant did.

Unfortunately; stupidity is not, in and of itself, lethal in concentration.


This information in the op comes from the congress on radiation research...
Their livelihoods depend on getting huge grants to tout how great it is to glow!

It's akin to the tobacco industry saying, "it is mainly hype what our products can do to you..."

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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 12:25 PM
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So is the scare mongering more damaging then the radiation itself?

I don't think radiation cares if it's harming you.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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Brace yourself..... this is old... but nevertheless a clear sign of how media appears to be 'used' ....

Radiation is good for you.




posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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This information in the op comes from the congress on radiation research...
Their livelihoods depend on getting huge grants to tout how great it is to glow!

It's akin to the tobacco industry saying, "it is mainly hype what our products can do to you..."


Yeah... there's a special word we use to describe people like you.

Look, sunshine. Coal combustion releases Carbon-14, U-238 and 235, as well as radon gas and Thorium (and a host of other radioactive isotopes and compounds). More Uranium is released from coal combustion, the world over, than is used in nuclear reactors that same year (again, the world over). That's just Uranium. That doesn't begin to account for the other radioactive nonsense released freely into the atmosphere by coal combustion.

Far more - nearly double the amount of radioactive material is released into the atmosphere by burning coal than is used in nuclear power plants.

Let alone the infinitesimal amount released by the Fukushima event.

If the disaster was everything you kooks cracked it up to be, we would have killed ourselves off from radiation poisoning back in the 1800s.




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