The Palestinians' Statehood Dilemma: Full U.N. Membership or Observer Status?

The Palestinians' Statehood Dilemma: Full U.N. Membership or Observer Status?
By Karl Vick / Jerusalem Thursday, Sept. 01, 2011

It looks like a sure loser: the Palestinian bid for admission to the United Nations as a sovereign state. Never mind that a large majority of the U.N. General Assembly would vote "Yes." U.N. rules clearly state that all applications must first pass the Security Council, where the United States stands poised to exercise its veto, at the behest of Israel.

If not that, then what? Then come the fallback options, including one alternative that experts on international law describe as so attractive to Palestinians there's a strong case for making it the first option. Instead of asking for full U.N. membership, Palestine can ask to be admitted as an "observer state." That's one rung up from the "observer entity" status it has held since 1974. Such a promotion comes with two advantages: It requires no Security Council action, and so amounts to a sure thing. The other privilege: it very likely opens the way for Palestinians to level charges against Israel in the International Criminal Court, and otherwise confront the occupying power in new, more sympathetic venues.(See photos of violent protests in Palestine.)

"The ICC is a big issue," says Yuval Shany, a professor of international law at Hebrew University, "but I'm not so sure it's the only issue. There could be other issues, like peacekeeping. "A Palestinian observer state might invite U.N. peacekeepers into the West Bank and Gaza, inviting at least a legal confrontation with Israeli troops that have been occupying the territories since 1967. "It opens up a lot of options, no matter what happens," Shany says.

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still looks like someones gonna try a hostile take over smells like a war brewing to me
this has been a really big issue lately trying to make a palestinian state lately even satan himself obama has been trying to get the old borders in place cause he's one of them anyways so he's gonna push what he knows isn't supposed to happen

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I pray come quickly Jesus

Israel and the US is never going to allow Palestine to become independent when they technically have a proxy rule of the UN.
Israel has like 250,000 people already living illegally in that stolen area which could become part of Palestine if the UN recognises Palestine as a separate country - not to forget, Israel has already armed all the 250,000 people to prepare them for an "imminent attack".

I would probably expect "bombings on Israel" by "Hamas" a few days before or after the UN vote takes place. Plus the fact the US threatening to reduce most of its funding to the UN if it recognises Palestine could also greatly influence the final outcome.

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The US/Israeli Veto Vote would just highlight to the world who really controls the US..

Most don't realize how many times Israel has used that Veto..

This time people will be watching.

Gonna be tough for a "so called" democracy like the US to squash the democracy of the UN again without people taking notice...
Maybe they'll even look into past US Veto votes and see the truth..

if this was 1942 we wouldn't be having this discussion. most likely every palestinian would have been rounded up and would running for their lives.

and it would have happened if israel had the manpower, organization, army and weapons to kick out every palestininan in israel when they declared themselves a state.

even if they did invite peace keepers into the west bank. it would be either canadian or friendly nation soldiers who would absolutely do nothing, like they usually do.

i can guarantee you no western soldier is going to fire on an israeli soldier bulldozing a house on behalf of the palestinians.

i can't believe the international community hasn't passed a resolution ordering every israeli troop out of occupied land.

you can't even began to think of peace until that happens. that's why all this u.s. bull about freedom and liberty makes everybody all over the world puke.

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i can't believe the international community hasn't passed a resolution ordering every israeli troop out of occupied land.

It isn't the troops that bother me so much, it's the "civilian" settlers..

Israel uses the BS excuse that the occupied lands are just a defensive buffer zone but builds civilian houses there and then states those settlements also need a buffer zone..
Perpetual motion..

How lovely of the BBC to already gear up the masses to have a negative view of these Pro-Palestine supporters.

Anti-Israel protesters have targeted classical music performances before.

"They sang, they shouted, they were met by boos by the audience and they had to be removed by the security staff."

Outside the concert hall a group of about 20 campaigners waved banners and sang songs in protest against the appearance of the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra (IPO).
www.bbc.co.uk...

Originally posted by CasiusIgnoranze
How lovely of the BBC to already gear up the masses to have a negative view of these Pro-Palestine supporters.

Anti-Israel protesters have targeted classical music performances before.

"They sang, they shouted, they were met by boos by the audience and they had to be removed by the security staff."

Outside the concert hall a group of about 20 campaigners waved banners and sang songs in protest against the appearance of the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra (IPO).
www.bbc.co.uk...

So now they can't even report of any news event without being blamed for something? Or is it only fair to post stuff that puts Israeli/Jewish people in a bad light?

You have only the demonstrators to blame for being a bunch of morons. What does a classical music concert have to do with anything? Not to mention that disturbing a concert can hardly be called demonstrating.. it can be called being an annoying prick.

What reasons did they have to disrupt that concert other than the fact that the Orchestra was Israeli? None. And then you whine and moan about racism, yes?


It's really becoming absurd that any news piece that covers Muslims in a bad light gets blamed for something.