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Conference aims to normalize pedophilia

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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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Thank God for an on-topic related post. I tried (weakly) in my first post to say similar - the thing is, this sort of "conference" has been going on for decades...the study of the deviant mind (not homosexual, but deviant) has been growing - just look at the fake cop shows on the boob-tube. As I posted before, if through the study we were able to ascertain a part of the brain that triggered such impulses could be "deadend" or something like that, shouldn't we try? What if we could find some miracle "cure". That would be good considering the revison rates of these people, yes? The only way to learn is through study. This type of thing has gone on since the '50's.

Edit to add: I don't think there is a cure.

CJ
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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In her thesis – also written for the Regent University Law Review – Reisman cited psychologist Eugene Abel, whose research found that homosexuals "sexually molest young boys with an incidence that is occurring from five times greater than the molestation of girls. …"

Abel also found that non-incarcerated "child molesters admitted from 23.4 to 281.7 acts per offender … whose targets were males."

"The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering," said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an $800,000 Justice Department grant studying child pornography and violence. "Abel’s data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls."

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The North American Man-Boy Love Association, or NAMBLA, is "a group that openly promotes sex with minor boys and claims that boy-lovers respond to the needs of the boys they love," Baldwin said in his report.

The group is often endorsed by "many of the homosexual movement's most prominent leaders," he said.

Read more: Report: Pedophilia more common among 'gays' www.wnd.com...


There is some statistics on how homosexuals abuse children more than heterosexuals.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 11:57 AM
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That's the thing. My own feeling about pedophilia is that it's a horrible joke on humanity. Why would god or evolution plague a person with sexual attraction for children or young adolescents? What is the evolutionary mechanism that has allowed pedophilia to survive? Why would god allow this? I don't believe in god, but it seems cruel and unusual.

Beautifully said.



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I am un-PC and therefore open to such discussion; still, be reminded that this is not the place for that. Please stay on topic.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Bleak
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That's the thing. My own feeling about pedophilia is that it's a horrible joke on humanity. Why would god or evolution plague a person with sexual attraction for children or young adolescents? What is the evolutionary mechanism that has allowed pedophilia to survive? Why would god allow this? I don't believe in god, but it seems cruel and unusual.

Beautifully said.



reply to post by IlluminatusOculus33
 

I am un-PC and therefore open to such discussion; still, be reminded that this is not the place for that. Please stay on topic.


It's on topic as it was mentioned in an earlier post.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 12:13 PM
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 12:25 PM
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This post should be removed for being the most revolting load of garbage ever.

PLEASE, STOP BELIEVING WHAT THE PRO-PEDOPHILE MOVEMENT TELLS YOU.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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Care to tell me what I said that is in any way, or shape incorrect?

I'm waiting.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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Looking for a cure to pedophilia ?

It's called "lobotomy"... and for those that act on their urges... they get the added bonus procedure known as "castration". Two surgical procedures for the price of one.

Case closed.

Apathy for rape of any kind is unforgivably abhorrent, as is the sickening analogies used in this thread to compare rape vs consentual adult choices.

And for those that can't seem to comprehend the difference between the two, perhaps it's time you removed yourself from gene pool.

This is not a subject in deservance of diplomacy of any kind.
Period.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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This of course is a horrible idea and I really hope it fails. However, does anyone think that by being so unforgiving to sexual criminals we make it more difficult for them to reform? A lot of people think even one act of sex crime makes a person irredeemable - imo that's pretty ridiculous. People say sex criminals re-offend at higher rates than other criminals but that's not really true, it's mostly a myth to support punitive rather than restorative measures.

I think if we gave sexual criminals a chance to be redeemed and be considered good people again there would be a much lower rate of re-offense than simply ostracizing them forever. Think about it, if humanity shuns and hates them, of course they're gonna hate humanity back and not care as much about re-offending.

With that said I do think the really dangerous ones should be in jail and heavily monitored.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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WTF? DON'T BRING YOUR HOMOPHOBIA INTO THIS!! Homosexuality is NOT evil. There are NO victims in homosexuality.

Pedophilia is a whole different ball game, pal! GET A GRIP!!!!!

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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
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Oh come on. Give me a break. Gay people don't hurt other people like pedophiles do. Nor do they have patterns of psychological issues and suffering of abuse (aside from what comes from them being gay) like pedophiles do, which shows that being gay is normal and they are born that way while pedophiles tend to be injured psychologically showing it's not normal sexual behavior.
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by m1991
This of course is a horrible idea and I really hope it fails. However, does anyone think that by being so unforgiving to sexual criminals we make it more difficult for them to reform? A lot of people think even one act of sex crime makes a person irredeemable - imo that's pretty ridiculous. People say sex criminals re-offend at higher rates than other criminals but that's not really true, it's mostly a myth to support punitive rather than restorative measures.

I think if we gave sexual criminals a chance to be redeemed and be considered good people again there would be a much lower rate of re-offense than simply ostracizing them forever. Think about it, if humanity shuns and hates them, of course they're gonna hate humanity back and not care as much about re-offending.

With that said I do think the really dangerous ones should be in jail and heavily monitored.


what about the guy in this link, is he rehabilitatable?

Not all are like this of course, but wow.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by unityemissions
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Unity, what you fail to address here, however, is the percentage of these 5-20% who, themselves, were molested as children. I'm not convinced all of these pedophiles were born with this attraction to children. I have dealt with a lot of these types in my former career and I never came across one who hadn't been a victim of molestation as a child. They live in their own personal hell.
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by Alex505
I think it's better this way. This way, they don't go to a mental institution, but to a regular prison. And as far as I know, inmates don't appreciate the pressence of a pedophile.. so they will never be able to sleep without being afraid of being killed and they will always have to look over their shoulder. Which is a good thing.. they have to be afraid for the rest of their miserable worthless lives..


Frankly I think this has as much to do with pedophiles being weaklings compared to gangbangers. It's not like gangbangers are 'nice people' relative to pedophiles, I mean sure some of them have kids but most of them probably don't give a f*** about anything.

i might be wrong but i think this whole concept of 'even evil has standards' is probably a myth. you think that huge drug lord would lose sleep over selling coc aine to a 12 year old? i doubt it.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by RainDog
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Here's how it should really be. If you touch a kid, you die. No rehabilitation, no incarceration. A bullet in the head and into the ground you go. One less pedophile and the world just got a little bit safer for children. End of story.


That's ridiculous. I swear to you it would be like the Salem Witch Trials, only way worse. People would accuse those they didn't like of being perverts and they would do away with them. When you consider there's hundreds of thousands of sex offenders, it would be an Auschwitz type of industrial execution as well.

There's a reason a bill making child rape punishable by death was defeated in Congress, even the idiots there realize if it was passed it would be a complete bloodbath and would make our execution tally skyrocket beyond that of China and wipe out hundreds if not thousands of innocent people.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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If I recall correctly, about 80% of child abuse arises from close family.

IE, genetic component for both, the desire, and the inability to properly discern possible ramifications (low IQ), and learn/act appropriately.
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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Okay, allow me to relate to you all what I've speaking about to unityemmisions (I was just initially compelled to confine it to PM's for some reason).

You see, any stats or numbers regarding this issue should always be taken with at least a few grains of salt (especially when they're this damned outlandish); seriously, it seems like all the "experts" in this field are pedophiles themselves, so why should they be believed? Seriously, people.......

It's indeed a complex issue. I can only assume that there are many things that would lead somebody to do such a thing, genuine pedophilic interests being only one.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 01:17 PM
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what about the guy in this link, is he rehabilitatable?

Not all are like this of course, but wow.


Of course not. That guy needs to be in a straight jacket for life. haha. What I'm saying though is I think we should rejoice if someone was a bad person and chooses to be good. We shouldn't just hate them forever and be unreasonable if they're truly sorry, or else they're just gonna fall back into their old ways. I don't see pedophilia or rape as being some kind of unforgivable sin, even though it's very bad obviously. I mean to me it's more forgivable than killing someone, I'm kind of surprised most people feel like murder is second to it in the list of the worst things a person can do.

Don't get me wrong, I understand most people who are older than me have kids (I'm 21), and the instinct of most parents is immediate revenge when they see a child harmed, but just think about the fact that even a pedophile was once a child. What if they were your child, wouldn't you want them to have a chance to reform? Obviously some of them are so psychopathic and batsh*t nuts they will never change, but the vast majority of them I think can just as much as a robber or a gang member could.
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by NightGypsy
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WTF? DON'T BRING YOUR HOMOPHOBIA INTO THIS!! Homosexuality is NOT evil. There are NO victims in homosexuality.

Pedophilia is a whole different ball game, pal! GET A GRIP!!!!!


No victims in homosexuality? HIV/AIDS is far higher in the gay community than it is in heterosexual people. www.cdc.gov...
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