reply to post by darkbake
Is that really what I've done or tried to do in this thread? to try to usurp or deny an atheist the absolute freedom to believe as they wish, even to
the degree of honoring them and their freedom to choose what to believe or not to believe? I did apologize already, but I will again if need be, for
the hysterical nature of the title of this thread. I am really only trying to provoke consideration of alternative paradigms or frames of reference
worth considering perhaps. If it just doesn't work for you that's fine by me. Love demands of us that we be willing to give up the need to be right at
any and all cost, for the sale of love and friendship, and you of course are perfectly entitled to believe that you yourself will not exist in the
future, whereas I am entitled to believe that at the most fundamental level, my very being, and becoming is already eternal, right now.
But it hardly seems fair for me to go rushing in, without at least holding the door open, for you to go on in yourself and give it an openminded and
open-ended examination, a "look see" if you will.
So consider this thread not an atheist attack thread by any means, but instead an open invitation to consider the mere possibility that there really
is a doorway into another domain, or realm somewhere we're not seeing, and yet can easily intuit, being already an intrinsic part of an eternal,
cosmic evolutionary process. Because we already know and understand, spiritually, that we, our true self was never a "thing", but a process, a
So why not at least go on in and check out the scene? There's a part yand a celebration going on in there somewhere I know it! My only problem or
predicament here, is that I'm like the LAST guy in the line, being here as the first with the invitation extended, manning the door - I can't go
inside and actually see and experience it, firsthand, for myself, fully and completely, until everyone eventually goes together, as another poster
mentioned, or at the very least is given the opportunity to do so, that's the intent here.
The final object of all our pursuit can only include everyone, through unity in the celebration of diversity. so while I have absolutely no dought
whatsoever, that there's an eternal celebration - I am here to tell you my friend that it's only ever been you, and me, and everyone here on THIS
planet, of ALL places, that the party is being thrown on behalf of! We who are also the last or the "new kid on the block" but in being last, are the
very cause of the celebration, for all who've been waiting for this moment, from age to age in eternity. We are the sons and daughters of love and
light, come of age, the creation redeemed by our own God-realization, because when we realize God, God is also realized through us, and then we know,
not by reason, but by personal, spiritual experience, that life itself is a mighty joke at death's expense. We come to see face to face clearly, and
know as we are known.
So I'm not afraid of death either, but for an entirely different reason than "won't know any different". I'm not afraid of death quite simply, because
I don't believe in it, it has no meaning or significance in my personal experience.
"That's easy for him to say while he's alive" you might say to yourself, but it could mean simply that death is a joke to me, an absurdity without any
reason, purpose or significance of any kind, and if I'm already sandwiched between two eternities, and life is still evolving, how is it more
reasonable to believe that my final destiny, and origin is forever nothing at all? Like where this moment come from if not eternity?
Just food for thought..
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