reply to post by NewAgeMan
I absolutely agree,
No. I don't think we do.
once included, there is no possibility for escape, only transformation, and yet, with freedom, there is still choice in how we respond to the
invitation to participate.
We are all included, with or without our acceptance. We will not escape. The only choice we have is accepting or rejecting death. The possibility of
rejection as a choice is delusion. You gave two verses, as supporting material, I suppose:
“Unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit.” – John 12:24
“The last enemy to be destroyed is death...Death is swallowed up in victory.” – 1 Corinthians 15:26, 54
The first is an acceptance of death as necessary for production of fruit(bearer of seed, vehicle of evolution). That seed will never be resurrected to
live the life of a seed again. It has graciously passed its life on for the future benefit.
The second quote is firmly within the tradition of individual ego existence resurrection, within an apocalyptic framework. When the time is up
(expected within the author's own generation, next 20 or 30 years), those deemed worthy will be clothed in immortality and then live forever. That's
the definition of 'victory over death'.
I've read a little bit of New Age teaching. It is a post-Christian demythologized version of Christianity. In that, terms like 'sin', 'redemption',
'salvation' are stripped out, leaving the core promise: individual, personal, ego self continuation after death for 'the worthy'. As you put it, 'life
after life', wherein the individual continues on as a self-recognizable self, in other words, ego, yet changed into glorious newness.
the domain of limitless possibility forever before us, wherein life meets life in eternity - and grow
So I remember some experiences from people who have gone before me. Those people are dead. The only continuation they have is the experience they
passed on, which is of benefit to me. They are beyond being benefited by their own experience. I am the new man, they are the old. All I can do is add
experience to the pot, and pass it on. I will not benefit once I've passed, some one else will. My personal self will be gone. That's evolution, and
that's reincarnation. I am unique, and will never live again. Some one else, hopefully more advanced, will carry on, but that won't be me. That will
be a new unique ego self.
Choice, choice. I choose to graciously be the seed.
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