World leaders meet to discuss post-Gadhafi Libya

World leaders meet to discuss post-Gadhafi Libya

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Prime Minister Stephen Harper is among the world leaders meeting in Paris to hash out a strategy for winding down the NATO mission in Libya and building a roadmap for the post-Moammar Gadhafi era.

The Paris meeting is being held exactly 42 years to the day that Gadhafi seized power in a coup, the start of a decades-long reign in which he ruled with an iron fist, bankrolled acts of terror and managed to coax diplomatic relationships with Western countries that previously shunned him.

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This is a perfect example of what many of us predicted since the beginning...democracy Western style from our great friends NATO. We all know how great it worked out for Iraq and Afghanistan. I know this news isn't very surprising, but it confirms our obvious suspicions. I am willing to bet that Libya's economy will suffer under whatever currency and form of government they use. More occupied countries for NATO tax payers to fund, nothing new here folks...

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How about the people of Libya decide?? These guys shouldn't get the chance to slice up the pie...

reply to post by sir_slide


Those were also my exact thoughts. It's so painfully obvious what is happening. I hear that a large portion of the rebel fighters are paid mercenaries from other countries. I doubt they really care about the outcome for Libya or its people. I wonder if the majority of Libyans are even aware of what is probably coming their way in the very near future.

They are not even waiting to make a move anymore... it's a blatant looting on the way.

This how the fat rats behind the take over of Libya get together to plan the final loot of the nations resources, what about the people of libya? they are as irrelevant as any other citizens of the countries this fat rats had looted already. The people in Libya like in Iraq and Afghanistan are nothing but collateral damage and a pesky problem to deal with as seem fit

should read world leaders meet up to discuss how they are going to control their new country.

NO !! oh really.. well i beg to differ, its a straight set up to confrontation and then resolution.

Now the question which begs for some difference is will the new regime play ball, or have they been using nato and its allies for their own purposes.. well time will tell, thank god for all that oil - otherwise one would be blowing sand and dreaming..what the french move, backed one would imagine with the permission of the bilderbergs.

What a game better than going to the cinema, does one not think that this is the beginning of a move far greater and deeper into africa one goes, just like my local hairdresser, start at the back then move forwards, and without the adage of something for the weekend sir, i say yes peace, peace for one weekend on this whole god damm planet would be nice, but then we would have to ask the permission of the bilderbergs, right

Let talk about the countries that will benefit from the take over of Libya, Is going to be the biggest contributors to NATO, as usual 1.US, followed by 2. Germany 3. France.

But just like any other tax payer funded entity in which US has special interest is the biggest contributor of all.

Gates criticizes NATO; How much does U.S. pay?

America's contribution to NATO's military budget - provided through the Department of the Army's Operations and Maintenance account - is under 23 percent. The U.S. contributed $408.051 million and $430.381 million, respectively, in FY2009 and FY2010, according to the Congressional Budget Service.


After the U.S., the largest contributors to NATO's military budget are Germany (16.6 percent); France (12.4 percent); United Kingdom (12 percent); Italy (7.8 percent); Canada (5 percent); Spain (4.2 percent); Netherlands (3.3 percent); Belgium (2.6 percent); Poland (2.3 percent); Turkey (1.8 percent); Denmark (1.7 percent); and Norway (1.6 percent). Fifteen countries make up the remaining 5.8 percent.


The U.S. contribution to NATO's Civil budget, provided through the State Department's Contributions to International Organizations, is approximately 21.7 percent, with payments of $66.1 million and $84.1 million, respectively, made In FY2009 and FY2010.

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Does the tax payer in the US gets anything from this investment in NATO? no a darn thing, but the fat rats behind the take over of nations and private interest reap all the benefits.

These people are announcing victory when the rebels first enter the city, I've heard news casters say with no hesitation that Gadafi has already been toppled, and they are already discussing how they will loot Libya once he is overturned.

How about you defeat him first before you declare a victory march

"Yeah.. I mean, sure we blew up your cities, but you can fix them right back up with all that money you guys get from the oi... oh, yeah right. Sorry."

reply to post by filosophia

How about you defeat him first before you declare a victory march

Bingo! It seems they are counting their chickens before they are hatched

I have a feeling whichever plans they discuss, have actually been planned for a while now.

It's funny how NATO members try to make it seem that this wasn't a systematically planned take over from the very beginning.

Obama, Cameron, Rasmussen - a triumvirate, building a global empire with the muscle of NATO.

Iran can't have long left. The US/NATO have that country completely surrounded.

reply to post by FOXMULDER147


Exactly but interesting to point out that, the fat rats are taking their time to target Iran, first they are trying to destabilized the government for years with insurrections and protests, but obviously Iran is not your regular cup of tea and the people are not as willing, I wonder why.

Here we go again, this blind denial of anything that the western media reports driven by a debilitating hatred of western political and military structures. So much so that you fail to acknowledge an oppressed people now free.

Instead of viewing western media reports ALL of which are lying (yeh right...) Let's instead take the word of the those very very pro NATO media outlets Pravda and the Palestine Chronicle (heavy sarcasm by the way for those whose blindness has reduced their IQ to single figures):

english.pravda.ru...

palestinechronicle.com...

Note the commentary about NATO in the Palestine chronicle, clearly not a friend ! But what is really important is that both these sources recognise the following (denied by the "I love Gaddafi ATS members")

1. The libyan people are free from a dictator
2. That dictator tortured people and committed atrocities.
3. The NTC is NOT controlled by NATO.

What this means is that the western media reporting of what was happening on the ground in Libya was true, shock horror!!! oh my god what is the world coming to when ridiculous ATS conspiracies are NOT true.

I am 100% confident every pro Gaddafi apologist in this thread will NOT acknowledge that the Libyan people are now free nor that the vast vast majority are gladly rid of Gaddafi. That's what cognitive dissonance is all about.....

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Yes, my god you are right, they are as free as the people in Iraq and Afghanistan are how can I forget. what a way to pay for freedom, the NATO way, taking into consideration who is NATO.

Yes, freedom is such a wonderful thing when is "induced like an enema on the people been liberated".

reply to post by malcr


You are 100% confident? Do you speak for the Libyan people? Sure you have your own opinion and made some interesting points. But these are rather bold claims you are making from the view you have at your keyboard. I am not saying Gadhafi is a saint, but Libya was one of the strongest countries in that region. You make it sound like we are liberating the North Koreans from Kim Jong Il, or Myanmar from the Junta.

This is not a pro Gadhafi thread, more of a stop the NATO oil crusade thread. Thanks for sharing your thoughts though


PS, I know quite a few Libyans. Although they admit North America is by far more enjoyable, life under Gadhafi isn't that bad. It is actually preferable in some aspects.

Perhaps we are all blinded by the trees in the forest.

Take a look at Libya’s assets and accounts in “foreign” countries.

If Kaddafi was such an “all for me and none for all” type guy, why would he be transferring all that wealth out of Libya and into the hives of TPTB for the last 40 years.?

The fact is Kaddafi is an installed leader just like most, a mid-level agent of TPTB, inc.

TPTB gave him an option to exercise and he took the deal when he took over the CEO job of Libya, Inc.
He will retire will plenty of benefits at an undisclosed location of course. His trial and/or death will be fabricated with a double, as was Saddam Hussein’s and others.

An article from last March has a partial list of “investments” controlled by the Libyan Investment Authority (LIA), and “investments” owned by the Libyan central bank.

The Libyan Investment Authority was, oddly enough, recently formed in 2006…. Hmmm?

The LIA, Libya's largest store of oil savings, controls about US$64 billion (Dh235.06bn) of assets. [color=limegreen]It owns 3 per cent of Pearson, the publisher of the Financial Times, and 7.5 per cent of Juventus Football Club, according to regulatory disclosures in November. It also has 2.6 per cent of UniCredit, one of Italy's largest banks, and 2 per cent of Finmeccanica, an Italian conglomerate.

Any freeze on those assets could further restrain the regime from using financial muscle to quash the popular uprising.

Pearson said yesterday the LIA's 3.27 per cent holding was "effectively frozen", as its lawyers advised that the shares were subject to UN and UK sanctions. The company has told the LIA that it "will not register any transfer or pay any dividend in respect of the shares until further notice".

Other government institutions also boast big foreign holdings. [color=limegreen]The Libyan central bank owns an additional 4 per cent of UniCredit, plus almost 60 per cent of Bahrain's Arab Banking Corporation (ABC) and 14.45 per cent of Arab Insurance Group in Bahrain.

ABC said on Monday it had not been affected by the global asset freezes. World divided on what Libyan assets to freeze .. Mar 2, 2011

Stop and think how many $100’s of Billions has gone to TPTB holding tanks since 1969 !!$

$!!

Current assets frozen are between $50 Billion and $100 Billion !!!

Now that NATO has just about destroyed most of Libya’s infrastructures, the next move is to award all the rebuilding contracts and continue the exploitations of resources at a faster rate than before, since all new equipment will soon be in use.

The ancient merchant/business/banking elites have been in business for 1000’s of years.

The life of Corporations continues on regardless of who dies !

And Now They Meet to Decide the Fate of the Spoils !

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It definitely is a revolving cycle of money in the hands of TPTB. Those contracts to rebuild Libya will most certainly be awarded to questionable corporations with conflicts of interes just like every other conflict. It's sad to see the same thing happen over and over to numerous countries. I was never aware that Gadhafi was a well placed puppet. It would make sense though. I am going to look into this angle in more detail when I get the chance.

The Arab Banking Corporation is a worldwide bank !

Branches all over the place.

Welcome to ABC's home page

Who are we?

Arab Banking Corporation, popularly known as ABC, is an international Universal bank headquartered in Manama, Kingdom of Bahrain. Our network spreads over 22 countries in the MENA and GCC, Europe, the Americas and Asia.
ABC, founded in 1980, is listed on the Bahrain stock exchange and [color=limegreen]our major shareholders are the Central Bank of Libya and Kuwait Investment Authority.
ABC is a leader in Trade Finance, Treasury, Project & Structured Finance, Syndications, Corporate & Institutional Banking as well as Islamic Banking. We are also expanding our retail network in the MENA region.

Arab Banking Corporation

I wonder if the London/Rothschild connection is plugged in ?

and guess what else ?

they dabble in INTEREST RATES $$$$

www.arabbanking.com...

ABC provides a full range of interest rate derivative products across all major rate indices (LIBOR, Treasuries etc). The basic products include:

Swaps
Swaptions
Caps & Floors
Collars
Forward Rate Agreements
Spread locks
Cross Currency Swaps
Exotic Options

Libya-Owned Arab Banking Corp.

Drew at Least $5 Billion From Fed in Crisis

WHAT A BOMBSHELL !!!

Better than a NATO airstrike I might say outloud !!

WHeeeeewwww...

from April 2011 article

Arab Banking Corp., the lender part- owned by the Central Bank of Libya, used a New York branch to get 73 loans from the U.S. Federal Reserve in the 18 months after Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. collapsed.

The bank, then 29 percent-owned by the Libyan state, had aggregate borrowings in that period of $35 billion -- while the largest single loan amount outstanding was $1.2 billion in July 2009, according to Fed data released yesterday. In October 2008, when lending to financial institutions by the central bank’s so- called discount window peaked at $111 billion, Arab Banking took repeated loans totaling more than $2 billion.

Libya-Owned Arab Banking Corp. Drew at Least $5 Billion From Fed in Crisis

What ELSE don't we know ?