General: China Could Be Planning Surprise Missile Attack on United States

Originally posted by Jim Scott
China is our friend. We live in a global economy. We depend on each other for happiness and success. No country in their right mind would begin a nuclear war. Can you imagine the dire consequences?

Yeah for all the gloom and doom around here at ATS it's no wonder people freak out and lose perspective on just how close the two economies are tied.

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Well, if China did do that, it would be an insanely horrific bloodbath...

however, that may be the point...they need a way to thin their population in order to enact their social changes they desire...which means, doing something that at face value will not make the average chinese person blame their own government...so, it could be a bit of a..hmm..not false flag, but hidden motivation. will draw out the war, allow for plenty of mega civilian casualties, then when it hits about the right amount of people gone, then surrender and spend a half decade or so rebuilding and apologising...meanwhile, mission accomplished.

just my conspiratorial mind working.

this is most likely what would go down in a war between the usa and china and this link is very well written > www.abytheliberal.com...

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by Jim Scott
China is our friend. We live in a global economy. We depend on each other for happiness and success. No country in their right mind would begin a nuclear war. Can you imagine the dire consequences?

Yeah for all the gloom and doom around here at ATS it's no wonder people freak out and lose perspective on just how close the two economies are tied.

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Actually I have issue with both posts

1) china is not our friend..the global economy is crap and exactly why things are the way they are

China is our manufacturer, we are china's consumer...if we nuked china into glowing sludge, the only thing that would happen is the manufacturing jobs would probably return home...erm...win?
Sure, we might have to pay an extra 10% for our cheap plastic crap, but hey, we got mega employment now...

ok, its a pipe dream...if china got ejected into space, the corporations would use the slave farms in india, or pakistan, or several other nations that will work for a few bucks a week...but still, lets not pretend china is our friendly partner in world commerce...they are the thorn in the western workers side..

The global economy was a great selling point, but the reality hit when it was initiated...its great, so long as your a ceo or investor of the mega corps...for the average schlub, it is a townkiller.

Originally posted by drphilxr
reply to post by JiggyPotamus

 

i like how you remembered the chinese attack sub surfacing in the midst of the kitty hawk

battle group. Does anyone recall that "missile launch" phage and others had so much

fun debunking as a jet, off the coast of LA this past year?

And the cruise ship "suddenly disabled due to an engine fire" 24 hours earlier near san diego,

escorted back to port by another carrier...?

Put 2 +2 together.

The Chinese are coming. Very likely be a middle of the night first strike.

I know this is probably futile but I'll try anyways.

First off all, anybody who wants to argue that the contrail over Longbeach was anything but a jet has so little idea about the myriad of related technical requirements and political ramifications that they are not qualified to have a serious opinion.

Sorry to be harsh but its the truth.

The incident with the Chinese Song class diesel attack sub surfacing near the Kittyhawk battle group, while embarrassing, requires a similar amount of ignorance to the workings of the USN and antisubmarine warfare in general to take as anything more credible than a slick attack sub commander having a grin at the expense of the USN.

The short and true of the matter is the carrier group were in a very relaxed posture and the Song commander took advantage of the fact. Due to the nature of ASW, If the carrier group had been on any type of alert much less an actual war posture the Chinese captain would have had his hands full getting within 300 miles of a U.S. carrier.

I'll take a pass on commenting regarding your insinuation that the Chinese were somehow complicit in the cruise ship fire in anyway other than having possibly supplied a part for the ship that failed because of a manufacturing defect and caused a fire.

Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by blocula

 

these numbers are not good at all and the only thing that might save the usa is its air force and navy >www.chinatalkingpoints.com...

You need to be more optimistic.

So they've got us surrounded, good! Now we can fire in any direction, those b**** *ds won't get away this time! - Chesty Puller USMC ...

web.utk.edu...

Definitely a star from me.

People seem to forget what we, as americans, are capable of..............

It looks like it is time for a little reminder..........and no I am not talking about the sand, I mean oil wars......That is just to keep us busy.....not full on WAR.( I am speaking of the "rules of engagement," once there is officially no rules because our butts are on the line.....Its on.)

I know war is tragedy. But if China really, seriously, for real, fired on us, that would be tragedy like none have ever seen......Well maybe one country anyways.

No way! It wouldnt be a surprise by any stretch if they tried. We know what they got, what they do, and when they do it, plan it...or even think about doing it.

Theres no way they could surprise us with all the covert, overt and obvious techniques and technology and spys in place we have. And satellites.

Originally posted by TDawgRex
General: China Could Be Planning Surprise Missile Attack on United States

Well of course they are, but there's a HUGE difference between planning an attack and actually carrying it out. Does anyone doubt that the US has plans in place to bomb every country in the world? They've probably executed tens of thousands of such attacks electronically (I'm sure you've all heard of "war games"). It's just a part of being prepared for every contingency. No surprise here.

Originally posted by LazloFarnsworth
No way! It wouldnt be a surprise by any stretch if they tried. We know what they got, what they do, and when they do it, plan it...or even think about doing it.

Theres no way they could surprise us with all the covert, overt and obvious techniques and technology and spys in place we have. And satellites.

they "china" has just about everything the usa has and a lot more troops who are not spread thin all over the world and this link gives a clear picture as to what would most likely happen www.abytheliberal.com...

chinas running out of fresh water and land to grow their crops, the desert is taking over, they are overpopulated and putting a strain on their ecosystem as they continue to grow in manufacturing. chinas not going to nuke anyone because if they do china will be no more, but if they cant work out their water problems the china will be no more anyway but a giant desert

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It never ceases to amaze how eloquently political satire can be used to summarize complex situations.

Good post.

I love it when someone finds some Chinese military threat or slip of the tongue regarding a surprise missile attack on the USA.

While I believe 99.9 percent of this threat, the smallest part that I do not accept is the surprise part I wish to share with everyone as new discussion and added thoughts to this subject matter thread about China and some surprise missile attack.

While many will think that perhaps this thread and or any media coverage of a factual event such as a surprise missile attack is no longer a secret when discussed, but what many will never consider is that it was never meant to be a real surprise attack.

I contend as conspiracies go that whatever China and Russia or any other major players do that get involved will have been done under a "coordinated" effort and was a surprise to no one but the sleeping sheeple.

We have more than enough online data to conclude that for at least 8 yrs, that Bill Clinton sold secrets to China. Look it up and begin to understand that many things within the information pool of government plans and directives that even included continuity of government and many military secrets, frequencies, and codes were sold to China for cash as a sanctioned effort towards a new world order.

As other key players position themselves to capture the goodies that matter most to those other nation states like China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and a host of other smaller nation states, those other nation states would no doubt act willingly to rid themselves of the Zionist Communist atheist that are destroying the world.

Many average citizens will refuse to consider until its too late, if ever, that politicians over the many years all sold out the nation to other nation states for money and for some elitist position among those that will go to the many tax payed underground bunker complexes where the rich and elite will eat and dine on the best food and wine, while the slave herd of humans that will be needed to be the select slaves to such elite scum are the only jobs that the new world order will ever have for the common masses.

Slaves with no say in anything is a sad existence, but then again slaves don't get to complain too loud or else its "Special Treatment" and we all should already know that is code for "kill the slave immediately."

It is those secrets of having sold out the nation for cash that make such information so much more damaging if ever confirmed, but I for one have no doubt that China's part in any missile attack will be orchestrated and even tax payer practiced after many years of training exercises to do exactly what the plan calls for.

No surprise at all to those that know and well, it is at times like this that I chuckle that others still take these Chinese disclosures as anything but kabuki theater. A staged event, practiced, coordinated and agreed upon how the battles will go and who will win when. Even the media releases are staged as part of that overall plan. Besides, it also conditions the mind to a subtle form of programming, but that's another topic all together.

Thanks for the thread. As I stated at the beginning, I love it when someone finds another piece of the puzzle and yet they don't even know what the puzzle is all about. Sorta like having a piece to the puzzle but not knowing what the subject matter is.

With no image of what the puzzle solution could be, a small piece of the puzzle does you no good unless you keep up with many matters in a consistent way. Only then would a very small part of the puzzle then begin to allow you to see the bigger picture of what the overall solution to the puzzle could be.

Anyway, spend some time in history researching and studying this concern and read about Bill Clinton and the Chinese, I think everyone who does will get enlightened and in doing so, you too will perhaps one day conclude as I did, that when it ever happens, if it ever happens, it will be a staged coordinated effort needed to instill immense fear and anxiety in everyone and to kill as many useless eaters as they can in the process while blaming the war for it and getting rich in the process.

Get the picture? Oh well, thanks anyway, but this is why I love a good effort. Thanks again for taking the time to consider these additional conspiratorial concerns.

It is just the use of the word "surprise". Of course they can and could...but it wouldnt be a surprise as in "Oh! Oh! Whats THAT on the screen!!???"

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Again I suggest you read what was stated. Its light REE's which are abundantly available in USA not heavy REE's .I suggest you subscribe to the critical metals report.

GAO and the Congress Perceive this as a major threat to their military superiority as it will need 15 years to reconstruct the domestic rare earth supply chain.
www.fas.org...


USAisdevil:

are you based in Inner Mongolia?
You have idea about local chinese property laws ?
How can I invest in Samarium and other heavy REE's ? Physical or financial?
are their any ETF's/Futures contract for rare earths in China?

you could pm me your contact details.

Do you have any idea how retarded this sounds. What does China have to gain from this and why would they put it out like that if they know there's a chance that it could end up on wikileaks? Makes no sense. I'll dig into this. I don't think hostilities are that high.

China wouldn't need military means to destroy the US, they could simply stop producing all their goods and starve them financially. Considering most Western countries wholly rely on India and China for most everyday goods.. not particularly smart now, they practically have us by the balls.

For # sakes my compute got disconnected just before I sent this. So here we go again piss off TPTB I'm trying to expose your plans... lol



Okay, So what I was trying to say was has anyone thought that perhaps a nation with a grudge and perhaps prior knowledge to any kind of Electro Magnetic interference from a solar storm or perhaps a comet ( just for examples sake say Elenin.) decides to plan an attack. Say that this Interference would knock out the power or a few comm or Surveylance satellites leaving the target nation completely in the dark and at the mercy of their adversary. This nation could then launch a strategic assault on this nation completely and utterly devastating it. The target would have no idea it was coming, and probably wouldn't even know what happened. For all they know the supposed end of the world prophecies came true. Was it a meteor ? Did Comet Elenin slam into them ? Did the Annunaki come down and decide for their insolence and lack of gold collection for their return that they would simply wipe them from existance ? It's perfect. I mean I don't really know much about the technology aboard Communication or spy satellites but as far as I know most super powers are fairly reliant on them for pretty much every means of communication and I imagine defense. I would figure the sort of EMI that would knock out a nations power would most certainly fry a satellite floating out in space. Anyone else have any thoughts on this ? Just my imagination here. Again as I said, I'm not that well informed when it comes to the tech involved here but it's been said our sun is coming into a very serious period of activity and there are those who feel it could pose a very serious threat to us. Not to mention all the hype with the comets, asteroids, planet x/nibiru, or a dwarf star..

Due to the retoric that follows by "Raider of Truth", I must give my response time to my good friend Liberty Prime
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Mr. Prime, are you prepared to respond?

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Liberty Prime is online. All systems nominal. Weapons hot. Mission: the destruction of any and all Chinese communists

Originally posted by Raider of Truth
China will rip you apart through sheer numbers and cyber warfare.

"Communist target acquired."
"Tactical assessment: Red Chinese victory... impossible."

You are in a huge economical pot of hell and the military is becoming overstretched and fatigued not to mention it takes NORAD 60 minutes to get 50 fighters in the air.

"Engaging red chinese aggressors"
"Obstruction detected. Composition: Economic downturn supplimented by manufacturing offshore workforce. Probability of mission hindrance...ZERO PERCENT!"

The Chinese Air Force would be swarming the airspace by then destroying command centres, airbases and supply depots whilst it's newly created fleets bombard your coastline and land infantry and armour.

"Death is a preferable alternative to Communism"
"Communism is the very definition of failure!"
"America will never fall to communist invasion!"

I have said for the past 6-7 years that China is the new America of the far east,

"Freedom is the sovereign right of Every American!"
"Democracy will NEVER be defeated!"
"Democracy is non-negotiable!"

it has been way to quiet in world events and something has to give they will need their own living space with adequate resources and infrastructure.

"Communist detected on American soil. Lethal force engaged!"
"We will not fear the red menace!"

Thank you Mr Prime. I think you made your point.

Incidentally, if anyone does not know who Liberty Prime is, well, then that makes them a communist!
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I hope they do launch missiles, lots of em into U.S .civilian areas ... will give America a taste of what its like to kill millions of civilians for no reason.

Just deserts America ... Just deserts and it will be tasty.

its was only a matter of time before you USA got it's comeuppances.

You cant just sit back and let your government screw up the rest of the world ... which you have been doing ... or it will come back and bite you ... like it will do soon ... soon

Originally posted by King Loki
I hope they do launch missiles, lots of em into U.S .civilian areas ... will give America a taste of what its like to kill millions of civilians for no reason.

Just deserts America ... Just deserts and it will be tasty.

its was only a matter of time before you USA got it's comeuppances.

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Probably.

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