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Chinese warship confronts Indian naval ship

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posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 05:01 AM
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Chinese warship confronts Indian naval ship


ibnlive.in.com


The Indian and Chinese navies were involved in a face-off in the disputed South China Sea. A Chinese warship confronted an Indian naval vessel as it left Vietnamese waters in July but the Indian Navy has denied the reports.

According to reports a Chinese warship, which remains unidentified, confronted India's INS Airawat, an amphibious assault vessel, and asked the ship to identify itself and explain its presence in the South China. London-based Financial Times reported that the Indian warship was in international waters after completing a scheduled port call in Vietnam.

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posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 05:01 AM
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China flexing its muscles again in a increasingly concerning and worrying way.It would seem that due to chinas runaway growth and huge appetite for the earth's resources they are more willing to secure shipping lanes and mineral rich areas in South China Sea by means of force if necessary .

A Pentagon report last week had said China was rapidly building up its surface and underwater naval capabilities as it places growing priority on securing shipping lanes and mineral rich areas in South China Sea.


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posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 05:04 AM
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Can't really blame them..
They have to do something or the US,England and Israel will take all the resources..

I read YEARS ago that WWIII will be fought over oil..
Most people laughed at the notion.



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 05:08 AM
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The Chinese cant come up with an original idea to save their life they just make cheap copies of russian made planes or subs so let them flex we all know the Russians are giving them older designs and Americans sure as hell are not helping in their tech



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 05:14 AM
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True they have blatant disregard for copy-write and will short cut their technology by coping others who have spent millions on development and with that model they can cut out the midlle man back engineer what ever they want and then rip it off without a care in the world. Take the downed US special ops helicopter. The Americans should be docking them money on their loan to take into account all the stolen tech.


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posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 05:52 AM
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Ye these silly chinese never invented anything.....


Agriculture
■Row cultivation of crops and intensive hoeing 6thC BC 2,200 years
■The iron plow 6thC BC 2,300 years
■Efficient horse harness -- trace 4thC BC 500 years
■collar 3rdC BC 1,000 years
■The rotary winnowing fan 2ndC BC 2,000 years
■The multi-tube "modern" seed drill 2ndC BC 1,800 years


Astronomy & Cartography■ Recognition of sunspots as solar phenomenon 4thC BC 2,000 years
■ Quantitative cartography 2ndC BC 1,300 years
■ Discovery of the solar wind 6thC BC 1,400 years
■ The Mercator map projection 10thC AD 600 years
■ (Mounted) Equatorial astronomical instruments 13thC AD 600 years




Engineering ■ Sprouting bowls and standing waves 5thC BC never
■ Cast iron 4thC BC 1,700 years

■ Double-acting piston air bellows 4thC BC 1,900 years

■ Double-acting piston water bellows 4thC BC 2,100 years

■ Crank handle 2ndC BC 1,100 years

■ "Cardan suspension" or Gimbals 2ndC BC 1,100 years

■ Manufacture of steel from cast iron 2ndC BC 2,000 years

■ Deep drilling for natural gas 1stC BC 1,900 years

■ Belt drives 1stC BC 1,800 years

■ Water power 1stC AD 1,200 years

■ Chain pump 1stC AD 1,400 years

■ Suspension bridge 1stC AD 1,200 years

■ First cybernetic machine 3rdC AD 3,000 years

■ Essentials of the steam engine 5thC AD 3,200 years

■ "Magic" mirrors 5thC AD 1,500 years

■ "Siemens" steel process 5thC AD 1,300 years

■ Segmental arch bridge AD610 500 years

■ Chain drive AD976 800 years

■ Underwater salvage operations 11thC AD 800 years



Domestic & Industrial Technology ■ Lacquer: the first plastic 13thC BC 3,200 years

■ Strong beer (sake) 11thC BC never

■ Petroleum and natural gas as fuel 4thC BC 2,300 years

■ Paper 2ndC BC 1,400 years

■ Wheelbarow 1stC BC 1,300 years

■ Sliding calipers 1stC BC 1,500 years

■ Magic lantern 2ndC BC 1,800 years

■ Fishing reel 3rdC BC 1,400 years

■ Stirrup 3rdC AD 300 years

■ Porcelain 3rdC AD 1,700 years

■ Biological pest control 3rdC AD 1,700 years

■ Umbrella 4thC AD 1,200 years

■ Matches AD577 1,000 years

■ Chess 6thC AD 500 years

■ Brandy and Whisky 7thC AD 500 years

■ Mechanical clock AD725 585 years

■ Printing -- block printing 8thC AD 700 years

■ -- movable type AD1045 400 years

■ playing cards 9thC AD 599 years

■ Paper money 9thC AD 850 years

■ "Permanent" lamps 9thC AD never

■ Spinning wheel 11thC AD 200 years



Medicine & Health ■ Circulation of blood 6thC BC 1,800 years

■ Circadian rhythms in the human body 2ndC BC 2,150 years

■ Endocrinlogy (glands, secretion) 2ndC BC 2,100 years

■ Deficiency diseases 3rdC AD 1,600 years

■ Diabetes detection by urine analysis 7thC AD 1,000 years

■ Use of thyroid hormone 7thC AD 1,250 years

■ Immunology -- innoculation against smallpox 10thC AD 800 years



Mathematics ■ Decimal system 14thC BC 2,300 years

■ A place for zero 4thC BC 1,400 years

■ Negative numbers 2ndC BC 1,700 years

■ Extraction of higher roots & solutions of 1stC BC 600 years

■ higher equations

■ Decimal fractions 1stC BC 1,600 years

■ Using algebra in geometry 3rdC AD 1,000 years

■ A refined table of pi 3rdC AD 1,200 years

■ "Pascal's" triangle of coefficients AD1100 427 years



Magnetism ■ First compasses 4thC BC 1,500 years

■ Dial and pointer devices 3rdC AD 1,200 years

■ Magnetic declination of Earth's magnetic field 9thC AD 600 years

■ Magnetic remanence and induction 11thC AD 600 years



Physical Sciences■ Geobotanical prospecting 5thC BC 2,100 years

■ First law of motion 4thC BC 1,300 years

■ Hexagonal structure of snowflakes 2ndC BC 1,800 years

■ Seismograph AD130 1,400 years

■ Spontaneous combustion 2ndC AD 1,500 years

■ "Modern" geology 2ndC AD 1,500 years

■ Phosphorescent paint 10thC AD 700 years



Transportation & Exploration ■ Kite 5th/4thC BC 2,000 years

■ Manned flight with kites 4thC BC 1,650 years

■ First relief maps 3rdC BC 1,600 years

■ First contour transport canal 3rdC BC 1,900 years

■ Parachute 2ndC BC 2,000 years

■ Miniature hot-air baloons 2ndC BC 1,400 years

■ Rudder 1stC AD 1,100 years

■ Masts/sailing: Batten sails -- staggered masts 2ndC AD never

■ Multiple masts, fore & Aft rigs 2ndC BC 1,200 years

■ Leeboards 8thC AD 800 years

■ Watertight compartments in ships 2ndC BC 1,707 years

■ Helicopter rotor & propeller 4thC AD 1,500 years

■ Paddle-wheel boat 5thC AD 1,000 years

■ Land-sailing AD650 1,050 years

■ Canal pound-lock AD984 400 years



Sound & Music ■ Large tuned bell 6thC BC 2,500 years

■ Tuned drums 2ndC BC unknown

■ Hermetically sealed research laboratories 1stC BC 2,000 years

■ First understanding of musical timbre 3rdC AD 1,600 years

■ Equal temperament in music AD1584 50 years



Warfare ■ Chemical warfare: poison gas, smoke bombs 4thC AD 2,300 years& tear gas

■ Crossbow 4thC BC 200 years

■ Gunpowder 9thC AD 300 years

■ Flame-thrower 10thC AD 1,000



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 05:55 AM
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Nice post but the West doesn't think there was even a History before America was founded..



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:02 AM
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Here is the rest of the list, I ran out of room


Flares & fireworks 10thC AD 250 years

■ Soft bombs & grenades AD1000 400 years

■ Metal-cased bombs AD1221 246 years

■ Land mines AD1277 126 years

■ Sea mines 14thC AD 200 years

■ Rocket 11thC AD 200 years

■ Multi-staged rockets 14thC AD 600 years

■ Guns, cannon & mortars -- firelance AD1120 450 years

■ -- true gun AD1280 50 years


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posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:13 AM
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reply to post by backinblack
 


Nice post but America doesn't think there was even a History before America was founded

fixed that for you
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posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:13 AM
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Sure, China gave the world many inventions. But the fact of the matter is that they still are unable to build a jet engine that does not have to be overhauled 3 times as frequently as western or russian engines. This limits flight hours for their pilots, which limits training. But at least they can afford to send their pilots up, unlike the Russians.

China likes to think of itself as a modern military force, and they have come a long way. Numbers mean something, but the Chinese are not even the best equipped and trained Asian country, that title would go to South Korea, followed by India.

I think India vs China is much more likely than US vs China, unless it is over Taiwan. And my money is on the Indians. They are state of the art and highly trained. The PAK-FA is even being codeveloped and will be delivered to India.



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Atzil321
 


Nice post but the West doesn't think there was even a History before America was founded..


Hey guys, I worked some old wood and built a proper cross so... if you'd just like to go ahead and change the topic of this post to just crucify America for every ill in the history of our species, I'm sure no one would really give a flying rat's ass.



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:31 AM
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reply to post by redoubt
 


I actually said the "west" so I have NFI what you are ranting at me for..

Maybe you're just having a bad hair day.



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by steppenwolf86
reply to post by backinblack
 


Sure, China gave the world many inventions. But the fact of the matter is that they still are unable to build a jet engine that does not have to be overhauled 3 times as frequently as western or russian engines. This limits flight hours for their pilots, which limits training. But at least they can afford to send their pilots up, unlike the Russians.

China likes to think of itself as a modern military force, and they have come a long way. Numbers mean something, but the Chinese are not even the best equipped and trained Asian country, that title would go to South Korea, followed by India.

I think India vs China is much more likely than US vs China, unless it is over Taiwan. And my money is on the Indians. They are state of the art and highly trained. The PAK-FA is even being codeveloped and will be delivered to India.


The quality of their products isn't and shouldn't be a reflection of the Chinese people, it is a reflection of the government/societal system they have in place. Quality control measures from what I understand are only recently being implemented. And even still they aren't up to western standards.
It will be a slow process because if they implement all these quality and control protocols they will slow their economic growth down dramatically.
Plus the big western and global corporations that have invested in factories in China have done so because of the cheap labor. Q&C protocols will drive up wages and lower their profit margins.

At the end of the day though it still amazes me how no western governments have taken steps to force western corporations to bring back such things to the west again and away from China, or to limit Chinese made products and force manufacturers/corporations into investing back in western countries.

Without them Chinas economic growth would be severely impacted. I know it's a simplistic layman's way of looking at it and that there are other more complex factors involved in Chinas economic growth. But I think it's time people stopped ignoring the role of western and global corporations have played in Chinas ridiculous economic growth.

Of course the elites dont see a problem with creating a multi polar world and a new conflict.
Even if the world is plunged into a crisis they will still profit from weapons manufacturing. And then they'll dictate in the aftermath, either directly or from behind the scenes as usual.



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:32 AM
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reply to post by redoubt
 


Meh, typical ATS. People do not realize how great they have it living in the States until its too late, or they try living abroad. 6 months in Poland and I am more patriotic than ever.



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:33 AM
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reply to post by Atzil321
 


All that and still cant do it right let alone feed their own people.



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:35 AM
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reply to post by steppenwolf86
 


Meh, I don't live in the states and honestly wouldn't want to..

I'm quite content here in lil ole Australia..



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:37 AM
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reply to post by Atzil321
 


give me something recent lol i know they have invented stuff but not lately



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:42 AM
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The quality of their products isn't and shouldn't be a reflection of the Chinese people, it is a reflection of the government/societal system they have in place.



I agree wholeheartedly. Their government condones copies and immitation rather than encourage innovation. I remember reading about a Spanish company that was the world leader in wind turbines. They opened a factory in China with the usual agreements of sharing technology. They went from 95% market share to 5% in 6 years, all due to Chinese companies copying their technology. Russia famously tried to stop the chinese from copying the Su-27 after licensing a factory in China, and also refuses to sell China any more jet engines.

It take longer, but China probably has more talented engineers than the west, and one wonders what they would be able to do if they innovated rather than reverse engineered.
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posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:55 AM
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reply to post by Nephalim
 

The fact that they manage to feed approximately 1,348,005,312. people is recognized as their greatest achievment.



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:57 AM
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Well they have constructed the world's most powerful supercomputer recently, 50% faster than
anythingelse in the rest of the world, 300mph trains are also quite impressive.




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