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That is all well and good, as far as i am concerned, but it makes me feel ill in that the author seems disappointed and that the purity of the "original" version is tainted.
Judeans probably lived in the Galilee earlier, but it was populated and
governed predominantly by the Itureans, the center of whose kingdom was
in Chalcis in Lebanon. Their origin is obscure—probably Phoenician and
possibly tribal Arab. The territory annexed by Aristobulus stretched from Bet
She'an (Scythopolis) in the south to beyond Giscala in the north—that is, most
of today's Galilee minus the coast. Masses of Itureans, the original inhabitants
of the Galilee, assimilated into the expanding Judean population,
- - Sand, THE INVENTION OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE pg 159
What he was doing was making comparisons to how the synoptic version of the last supper is described, to Paul's version. He wonders if the synoptic version was copied from Paul, and if so, what was the reason for the changes. One explanation Watson gives is that Paul was describing as something to be continued as a practice, while the other was making it as a historical event.
6 Jesus therefore said to them, "“My time has not yet come, but your time is always ready. 7 The world can’t hate you, but it hates me, because I testify about it, that its works are evil.
Also no apocalypse, or not that type we normally think of.
John never states that Jesus is "son of David". No throne, no iron scepter, no hierarchy of rulers over a subject people, no wars of liberation.
I need to add is Revelation was written by the Enoch camp to counter John, by producing an apocalypse that they felt John neglected to add himself.
and the other is people who are in Christ now, as Jesus has already returned so we can be with him in his father's house.
John 20: 22 When he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "“Receive the Holy Spirit! 23 If you forgive anyone’s sins, they have been forgiven them. If you retain anyone’s sins, they have been retained.”"
I had to LOL for about five seconds when I read that, where Sand mentions how there are streets in Israel named after Hyrcanus, something you posted on this forum a while back. The Jewish Titus. This is the sort of mentality I think I am looking at as I see agendas being pushed today. There is a physical war and simultaneously, an ideological war. This is what I meant last night when I said there is a war and also right in our Bible, with one side pushing for that physical war and like the old saying goes, all is fair, including writing books in the name of the Apostles after they are dead.
- - Sand, THE INVENTION OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE pg 159
That is weird, at least to me, that web site you linked to. Notice how it says, "Christian scholars" which someone looking at it in an unsuspecting way, might assume means, Christians who are scholars, instead of what it looks like to me, Jews who study Christianity.
I'm sure he realizes that his conclusions aren't exactly what his colleagues at International Enoch Studies Conferences or Second Temple Judaism, studies, some of which is sponsored by Israel(see www.jerusalemschool.org...), would approve of.
there are people who study the NT night and day, not because they believe it, but want to figure out how to subvert it.
I really haven't gone much further than to be rather certain they were forgeries but right now I think it would not be a good idea to disregard them altogether on that ground alone. I don't know if there are any good books on why the creation of those letters was a good thing. Something I should look into since I seem to always be rummaging around on Amazon.
You may also add, that probably after Paul's death, two different Greek students of his forged Ephesians and Colossians in order to bolster his position of opposition to Torah. They can be at least taken as what close students of Paul thought he was getting at as a universal message.
I did look at that verse and I need to look at it some more. My way of dealing with a verse like that is to like make a table to analyze the sentence structure. That only gets me so far. There is something going on at a spiritual level that I have gotten as far as realizing there is.
In my Hellenized Epicurean theology there is no need for resurrection even. His body stayed with us in the bread and wine, and his spirit is with us as the Holy Spirit. see 1Cor. 15:45 'So also it is written, “The first man, Adam, became a living soul.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.'