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"Back to School" Conspiracy?

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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 02:36 PM
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Has anyone else experienced this with their kids at school? Is this innocent or is the government having the schools collate information for them? Unfortunately, the school is closed now or I would be in there asking why they need all this information and letting them know I feel it is an invasion of my privacy!

My 13 year old came home today with a paper that is shown as an assignment. It looks like this:

Assignment: You are going to create a history page about yourself.

Please put your information on the construction paper provided.

You need to include the following pieces of information:

~Your name, birthdate, and place you were born.
~Family members and background
~Places you have lived
~Favorite places you have traveled to
~Accomplishments you are proud of
~Something you want to do or accomplish in the future

Be creative and use pictures where possible instead of just writing in information. You can use real photos, magazine pictures, or pictures off the internet.

This is your history and we want to know about you.

Remember, history is the story of how we became who we are now.


It seems sort of innocent at first, until he told me that they MADE him fill out a form much like this one today which also asked for the name of everyone in his family, the number of siblings, how many animals in the home, and as much information he could fill out as possible.

The new Census?

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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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That does seem rather invasive. But then again, I remember filling out things like that when I was in grade school. Maybe not that in depth, and I wasn't exactly MADE do it. I mean, it was an assignment and I thought I'd better do it or I'll get in trouble. I mean, that makes sense, right?



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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It could be innocent... a teacher who actually take interest in his/her students and wants to instill a sense of self in each of them. I mean, so many kids today can't even communicate on a personal, human to human level. Giving one a sense of who they are gives them a foundation from which to grow personality and character.

But what is more likely is just a nosy school board who wants to crawl around in their student's lives and that of parents. I know it sounds horrible but... that's how it is anymore.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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The government already has all this information.

The school is most likely just collecting information for emergency contact reasons.

As for the assignment it seems like its just an exercise for kids to express their goals and achievements.
Or perhaps its a method of getting the kids to get to know one another. Back to school means new kids in class.

I wouldn't worry.

The bank pulled up more info than this with my sin number when I was applying for credit.
it was scary how much info actually.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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I'm 19 and was in school not too long ago.


These sort of time wasting assignments are done every year in almost every class. The "tell us about yourself" assignments.


Some teachers would just go around the room and say tell us your name and a sentence about yourself or whatever. The other teachers that liked to waste time had you do some lengthy essay about yourself or fill out a worksheet.

The "state name of family members and contact info" was a way for emergency contact or if the teacher wanted to call your mom because of bad behavior, grades, etc.

Not really a conspiracy here at all, just a way to start off the school year.
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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 02:52 PM
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One day he may need to produce papers please .....
peace



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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I've seen worse but never thought to post about it....the problem today is schools only want to teach kids that they are ok no matter what. No more reading, writing and arithmatic. I used to have to earn awards now you get one for being a terrific kid.

Heck when I was in middles school, we learned calculus because the teacher knew how to teach. I learned then, at 14 years old that there were no limits to what we can do. Yet my grammar and useage sucks and is getting worse so no need to correct.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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...you could look at the assignment as a way to teach your 13yr old how to share their private info in a way that most suits your family's traditions... like the part about family members' background - its not clear what that exactly means...

...my kids are in their 30s now but when they used to ask me "whats that mean?", i'd ask them "what do you think it means?" cuz it was important to me that they learn to think for themselves... never had to teach them to question everything - apparently thats a genetic thang with us, lol...



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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You don't explain how this could possibly be used in a conspiracy...is the teacher going to give this information to the gubment somehow? Teachers like to get to know their students...

Paranoia for the sake of paranoia isn't good.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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I love it when people post stuff like this. I think it would be great if citizen activists made a habit of posting anything at all that raises an eyebrow so that it can be subjected to public scrutiny; thanks, OP.

Some people would have no idea about this sort of thing unless others brought it to our attention.

So yeah, it looks for all the world as though someone is creating a database. I guess the question is, where do they go after the teacher gets them?




posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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It's a standard school exercise in English lessons or ICT. It's classed as autobiographical writing.



~Your name, birthdate, and place you were born.
~Family members and background


The school admin office already knows these details. The kid's teachers know them too.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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...had another thought on this...
...if you wanted to teach that teacher a thang or two, you could ask them to do the same assignment for the benefit of the parents, so they know what kind of person is teaching their child...



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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They already do. It's called 'Parent's Evening' and 'application form.'

Also criminal records background checks that requires every previous address, employment history etc.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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There's a really simple solution to this: home school.

Two parents do not need to work, what kind of life will your children have with two parents gone all day and the school as their parental guardian. And then we wonder why there are no family values left in America.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 04:09 PM
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...home schooling works if the parent doing the schooling of the children is somewhat intelligent but thats not always the case...



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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Hey, Kandinsky.

I can't help it; I smell social engineering. But I smell it everywhere, so I suppose that is somewhere near the root of my bias. Oddly enough, by the time I was 10 or so I would have rebelled openly in class over this and would have made a scene. I am just wired like that.




posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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Also criminal records background checks that requires every previous address, employment history etc.


They do this at 'Parent's Evening'? A background and criminal records check?



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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Think you might be reading a little too much into this? Seems like a simple grade school project to me. Not really sure what set your paranoid-meter off on this one.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky
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It's a standard school exercise in English lessons or ICT. It's classed as autobiographical writing.



~Your name, birthdate, and place you were born.
~Family members and background


The school admin office already knows these details. The kid's teachers know them too.



Enrollment consisted of Son's name, Mom and Dad's name, address, contact info, and shot records. No family members names, no background info required. What set me off was the fact that they had him, on his 2nd day of school, fill all of this information out along with other information on a paper that they collected. Then, they sent him home with this assignment that asked for the same information but not in as great a detail. How could this information be used? Lots of ways. See the assignment below again with my comments.

~~Assignment~~
You need to include the following pieces of information:

~Your name, birthdate, and place you were born. (Yes, the school received this info upon enrollment)
~Family members and background(They don't need to know how many people are in our family and their names, they don't need to know whether we are Irish, Jewish, Muslim, whatever.)
~Places you have lived (Again, it's none of their business where we have lived. Whether we lived overseas or in Canada, Mexico, or California.)
~Favorite places you have traveled to (See answer to question above
~Accomplishments you are proud of (This seems harmless at first glance until your kid goes, "I learned how to fire Dad's AR-15 with Mark III scope this summer with deadly accuracy!)
~Something you want to do or accomplish in the future (Again, apparently harmless until your kid says, "I want to learn how to throw knives and shoot a bow with the same accuracy as my Dad!")

Be creative and use pictures where possible instead of just writing in information. You can use real photos, magazine pictures, or pictures off the internet. (Really? Use real photos? So you can assign a face to the names in question 2?)

Yes, I could be over reacting, but alot of information can be gleaned about an individual from some of the smallest insignificant facts. Trouble can be created by a teacher that dislikes firearms and raises a stink because a child's family is teaching them firearm safety and how to hunt. Also, where is this information stored? Is it accessible to hackers? The government? It falls into the same category as a store asking you what your phone number or zip code at checkout. It's none of your business, sell me my items! It's a violation of my kid's privacy, it's a violation of my family's privacy!

And it's not a far fetched idea that teacher's could be used for some illicit purpose:


No single target of nazification took higher priority than Germany's young. By 1937, 97% of all teachers belonged to the National Socialist Teachers' Union. Every member of this union had to submit an ancestry table in triplicate with official documents of proof. Courses and textbooks in Nazi schools reflected the aims of Hitler. Of the topics that teachers were required to treat, the most important was racial theory and, by extention, the Jewish problem. In The National Socialist Essence of Education, a German educator wrote that mathematics was "Aryan spiritual property; .. an expression of the nordic fighting spirit, of the nordic struggle for the supremacy of the world..."[1] An example of racial propaganda in a math problem is the following: "The Jews are aliens in Germany--in 1933 there were 66,060,000 inhabitants in the German Reich, of whom 499,682 were Jews. What is the per cent of aliens?"[2]
Source

They later profiled Jews and Gypsy's, put them in ghettoes, and we know what happened from there.


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