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reply posted on 31-8-2011 @ 01:57 PM by muzzleflash
Originally posted by jadedANDcynical
Originally posted by muzzleflash

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Also, comparisons with Chernobyl are loaded as well. I don't trust them one bit. They keep saying this is "equal to Chernobyl", but that is so far from the truth it isn't even funny.

This is like 100x Chernobyl, and has the potential to be far far worse. There are over 1000 fuel assemblies at the Fukushima plant the day before the disaster according to various sources. That is enough material to create 100s of Chernobyl's in theory.


There are quite a few more than 1000 Assemblies onsite:



Caltech .pdf <- Direct link to 20.64 MB .pdf, very large file, dial up users be aware.


Thanks.

According to this source : There is 11,000 + fuel assemblies total at the entire complex.
allthingsnuclear.org

The same article says that a total of 11,125 spent fuel assemblies are stored at the Fukushima Dai-Ichi facility. However, not all of those are stored in the pools in the reactor buildings. Several hundred are currently in dry cask storage, and more than half of the total are stored in a common storage pool.


So we have a massive amount of assemblies in dry cask and in the common storage pool.

If the entire site becomes impossible to work at, than it would become extremely difficult to reach these assemblies and deal with them in the near future for any reasons. We would have to employ sophisticated custom built robots with heavy shielding.

But as far as I know the dry cask assemblies should be fine for the time being, but I am not sure about the status on the 'common storage pool' at this time.

Letting a few cores melt is one thing, but each reactor storage pool and this huge common storage pool are the real dangers here long term. If a few or all of these storage pools started to have melts it would be the most ridiculous thing ever.

I don't trust anything TEPCO says anymore, so I hope that they have started removing assemblies from the site months ago. That's really how we can mitigate this disaster right now, and that's removing everything to safer locations, and then putting it in long term storage until we can determine how to transmute it properly, or allow the pollutants to decay naturally. Whichever comes first.

Let's just hope they have removed at least half of these assemblies off-site by now. I can understand if people have doubts though, considering the pattern of deception and denial ongoing in this catastrophe.


reply posted on 31-8-2011 @ 02:30 PM by Mimir
There can be no doubt to anyone that something need to be done, atleast to confirm the severity.

I dont believe it is imposible to do anything good around Fukushima now, the damage may be irreversible fact, but if noone acts it will only grow worse.

Some one need to yell so loud that the msm and governments is forced to address the issue and act as needed.

Even if they all should be part of TPTB some of them got kids right?
There's not enough *spaceships* to evacuate all those tv-people and their entire families, so some of them should have some interest in the future. For TPTB radiating the world would be a crappy solution to depopulation, because if they succed they are forced to live deep undergound for 50-100 years due to groundlevel radiation.


Once theres the needed focus on Fukushima, you should start concider how easy / hard it would be to do terror against various nuclear power plants you find all around the world.

If a little water and a few electrical shortcuts can result in 3 total core-meltdowns in Fukushima, a airplane, missile or rocket might do similar things in other places.......They dont have to hit with fullscale war, it is easyer to let you die slow and painful from radiation, so bomb some plants in or around the US instead....(dont get inspired by this).

I'm not saying shut down the nuclear plants, but if you want to use such technology atleast make sure its protected and safeguarded in any possible and impossible ways.


* spaceship = deep underground caves away from radiations touch.

edit on 31-8-2011 by Mimir because: (no reason given)




reply posted on 31-8-2011 @ 02:34 PM by jadedANDcynical
reply to post by muzzleflash



So far as I know, the CSFP is still at about 90% capacity:



The dry casks are about as safe an option we have alregarding long term storage, but they are very expensive to manufacture. And as long as profit is a motive, cost cutting will take place.


reply posted on 31-8-2011 @ 02:38 PM by Aeons
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Global Regulation with teeth to regulate industries with global consequences. Proof is in the pudding, that industrialists and their bought and paid for government lobby lackeys don't do ANYTHING that they aren't required to do no matter how horrendous the consequences.

Self-regulation is a myth. We, the people of Earth, need a really BIG bat to beat people like these with.


reply posted on 31-8-2011 @ 02:47 PM by kdog1982
reply to post by Mimir



As far as the MSM and the government,also the TPTB, they all know and are aware.
Believe me,there are huge groups protesting,sending emails,making phone calls to only be ignored and pushed away like some crazy person.
But,hey I can give you many links to these groups and let you try.
I a member of a few of them.


reply posted on 1-9-2011 @ 11:10 AM by soficrow
reply to post by chasingbrahman



...eats lots of cruciferous vegetables (broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage and all the veggies that endure cold temperatures) and rosemary.


THANK YOU.

...haven't been able to research myself =either. Help is good.



reply posted on 1-9-2011 @ 07:29 PM by kdog1982
To give you an idea of how much the US has received of cesium-137 from fukushima, courtesy of CEREA.



cerea.enpc.fr...

On their website the also compare Chernobyl.

Another good source for ocean currents and the transport of radionuclides.

SIROCCO has performed, at the request of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), simulations using the 3D SIROCCO ocean circulation model to investigate the dispersion in seawater of radionuclides emitted by the Fukushima nuclear plant. The model uses a stretched horizontal grid with a variable horizontal resolution, from 600m x 600m at the nearest grid point from Fukushima, to 5km x 5km offshore. The initial fields (T,S,U,V,SSH) and the lateral open boundary conditions are provided by the Mercator PSY4V1R3 system (one field per day, horizontal resolution 1/12 ° x 1/12 °). At the sea surface, the ocean model is forced by the meteorological fluxes delivered every 3hours by ECMWF. The tidal forcing at the lateral open boundaries is provided by the T-UGO model, implemented for this purpose by the SIROCCO team on the Japanese Pacific coast.


sirocco.omp.obs-mip.fr...

sirocco.omp.obs-mip.fr...


reply posted on 1-9-2011 @ 07:54 PM by Aircooled

A report on radioactive sewage in Japan. Wanna bet this goes on those barges and out to the Japan trench?


reply posted on 1-9-2011 @ 07:57 PM by kdog1982
reply to post by Aircooled


Hey,what's a little radioactive crap fertilizing the ocean going to do,right?



reply posted on 1-9-2011 @ 08:27 PM by kdog1982
reply to post by Aircooled



I like this comment from a response to this video from a citizen of Japan.

I want to apologize to foreign people as a Japanese. Though Japan is a developed nation of electronic instrument, they are serving only like this cheap camera's pictorial image. These are done by pernicious habit of cover-up by Tepco. Foreign everyone, please make a protest against Tepco. "Increase number of observation camera and make information open for all world!"



reply posted on 1-9-2011 @ 08:33 PM by kdog1982
reply to post by Aircooled



The exact same debris 3 months later.

At least the picture is better and they now have a crane attached to it.
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