the people you are talking about seem to hate because the are gullible enough to believe everything and anything written on the internet...

therefor every time something happens from a storm to a plane in the sky the think its the work of TPTB.

long story short people are stupid, if they want to b***h about the flags we live under they can try another

Originally posted by User8911
The person on this forum that gave us the most information was banned by the mods either because they fear it's the truth or that they are working in the same agenda.

Who was that?

Originally posted by radkrish
Why do people hate them? Well, If I see people go to a place called bohemian grove and chatter who knows what and perform rituals, then would you want to know?

Honestly? No. Just as I don't feel particularly compelled to find out why someone steps on a glass during a Jewish wedding or why Catholics perform ritual cannibalism in the form of the eucharist. Every belief, practice or ritual that's sacred to one may be silly to another, or even threatening to yet another. If it's not hurting anyone, why not let them speak in tongues and dance around a fire if they want to?

Ignorance and fear go hand in hand. When you have no true knowledge of a subject and you lack a discerning and objective mind it is easy to lock on to any information presented to you. Regardless of validity. I struggle with this myself almost everytime I read something on the internet, including ATS, saying the world will end in October or September or December 2012 or last March or New Years Eve 2000 ect. ect.
I recently wasted many hours on a youtube post debating with someone who was convinced beyond all reason the The Masons anf "Reptilians" are conspiring to overthrow the world. I mainly asked questions to challenge his theory. Finally after a 2-3 post back and forth I was accused of being a "shill". Anyways as far as I know I'm not a "shill" for the Masons or Reptilians. But If they are as sneeky as this fellow made them out to be maybe I am!?!?

Ignorance and fear of the unknown. It's not a crime, and it's so widespread, that I would venture a guess that most people harbor some sort of hatred or in the least, fear of some group they don't know or understand. It's human nature. As people grow up and mature, they find more and more that they do know people in these groups and they start to trust and understand that just because they don't "know" for sure, they feel comfortable that nothing as evil as the rumors is really going on. Then there are the select few who have big enough cahones to actually join one of these groups to find out fist hand what they are really about. Those are usually the ones who will stand up and lead, instead of waiting for a leader. (IMHO)

Wow, ya'll are a wealth of information! I will try to keep this on point but sometimes I drift.

Fear of the unknown is such a strange concept to me. We are the smartest creatures around yet some still hide in a corner and shake from that which is "unknown". I am not gonna change the world on this one I guess.

Originally posted by Afterthought I do not hate the masons. I feel bad for them. The ones in the lower ranks are in denial of the fact that they are supporting men that are truly dangerous and deserve to be hated.

Afterthought, thank you for that because this is exactly the type of thing I am talking about. I will assume you have never joined the Masons however, you feel that you should warn others against their evil. Why is this?

I've heard personal stories from people who have seen children as young as 10 given sexual hash names. There is no need for this. I have no respect for a parent who allows their child to be given a risque name by people they consider friends.

Once again thank you, my point is that you have heard about this but not experienced it. Yet once again you feel the need to put it out there for other people to heed as a warning.

Its not the secret aspect of these things that one hates but the people who think that they are apart from the rest by engaging in secret activities. I silly pitty them for they are not in anyway better than an ordinary man.

Have any of these men said they were better than us? If they believe this I would like to know why they feel this way.

Why can't they just let them do their thing peacefully? Are you sure they are doing it in peace? These are not secret societies that people "hate"!!.....These are Societies with Secrets that people "hate"!! Tell me why they should hold secrets if in the name of peace they act?

Am I wrong that the secrets are the ways of identifying oneself to another. From my understanding (which is not much at all) when Masons get together it is more like a business meeting. What secrets could they possibly be discussing in an hour long meeting once a month. IMO it would take a bit more planning to take over the world. Have we any tangible proof of Masons doing nefarious things? Mostly they seem as peaceful as a church that meets every Sunday to prepare their souls for the afterlife.


Originally posted by Rexamus
reply to post by Doodle19815


People hate secret societies because they are secret

Not so much, but because they can have an influence, it's not about the secrets, but about the application of these secrets on the masses as influence. Masonry is a dangerous institution, it poses a risk on the true freedom of the human kind, it is an influece along with other such organisations. To take an oath to such organisations is the ugliest thing imaginable you can do. You become the cockroach in the dark.

So it's not so much about the hidden knowlege they have but in fact what they do with that knowlege.


How are they applying these secrets on the masses, have you seen this? Wouldn't having the freedom to join such societies be what raises us among animals? Why is choosing to take an oath an ugly thing and make one a cockroach in the dark? Am I ugly and hated because I have been baptized and given an oath to Christ to except him as my Savior? Also, what knowledge do you believe they have and kept hidden?

TO USER8911 my point exactly is this, was Daelume speaking from personal experiences? You obviously became his follower. What made you trust him so strongly? What made you take him at his word? It seems you have no personal experiences to offer as to why you "hate" these groups. I ask for personal emotions of what you feel and why. I am not trying to question your choice because it is just that, your choice to choose how you feel on the matter.

Text I recently wasted many hours on a youtube post debating with someone who was convinced beyond all reason the The Masons anf "Reptilians" are conspiring to overthrow the world. I mainly asked questions to challenge his theory. Finally after a 2-3 post back and forth I was accused of being a "shill". Anyways as far as I know I'm not a "shill" for the Masons or Reptilians. But If they are as sneeky as this fellow made them out to be maybe I am!?!?

Who are the reptiles and what is a shill? I know, a little off topic but I keep seeing this reptile stuff and am a little curious.

It is your choice whether to hate, fear, or disregard any group of your choosing. It is my choice to stay neutral on the matter of secret societies. I will never change how one person feels towards another. I just would like to understand it better. Maybe I should have went to college and got a degree to be a head shrinker, I don't know.

Originally posted by User8911
Daelume, I think his posts are still available

Never saw any of that person's posts. I thought you were going to say Protoplasmic Traveller or Dimensional Detective.

The OP "Why Do You Hate Them?" is directed to those, I guess, who are afraid of the unknown like someone had mentioned earlier.

I've never been afraid; awareness is one of many traits you need to be a free-thinking person in my opinion! We can't really worry about the people who won't budge from their mindset, at least the one's that aren't around us.. The goal for us All should be to educate! We read what we want, true half-true or complete BS, but that's all we can do.

And, of course, stay on our toes, Ps & Qs, whatever you want to call it.

Like many here have said - "People hate secret societies because they know so little about them, and they're afraid."
Fear leads to anger, and anger leads to hate - we're afraid of them because we don't know who/what they are, we're angry because we don't know what they're up to, and we hate them because of all that. We "hate" them because of their obsession with secrecy. We're afraid because we don't know enough about them and they won't tell us, which makes us angry, and we hate them for that.