Mutant, deadly H5N1 strain of bird flu emerges in Asia and could sweep the globe this fall

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Seriously, 67 threads on the subject!? You're obviously not getting the recognition you deserve for your hard work and research. Write a book. It's all excellent information and would make an awesome read, in book form. I'm not kidding.

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You're obviously not getting the recognition you deserve for your hard work and research. Write a book.

You obviously have no way of knowing, but your recommendation is a major put-down in academic circles.

We're good though.

Seriously, 67 threads on the subject!? ...It's all excellent information and would make an awesome read, in book form. I'm not kidding.

Are you saying it's a less-than-awesome read in thread form?

fyi - I'm most concerned with getting important information to people who might benefit - and unfortunately, few people read books any more.

UPDATE

H5N1 Bird Flu is spreading in Indonesia - and the latest infections raise fears that the virus is spreading person-to-person. One village has been quarantined.

Bird flu feared in new Bali death; Virus reaches Lombok

Bird flu (H5N1) is again suspected in the death of the mother of the two boys who died last week in Jehem village (Bangli Regency, Bali), raising fears the virus had been transmitted from person to person.

Meanwhile, bird flu has now spread to 9 districts on Bali, as well as to neighboring Lombok, where a village was isolated to prevent the virus spreading further.

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Hey Mike I read that same article too wasn't it just scary, and no contagion is on it's way to depopulate the world, but the vaccine is a lethal injection and so too just may have a nano microchip in it too so they can just turn off the lights of the elderly and sick, nasty people the lot of them royalty was there too and they were all laughing about killing us off, it makes my skin crawl and my blood boil, we are not humans to them we are just slaves to make them all richer treating us like mushrooms, feeding us full of # and keeping us in the dark and, i wish i had a copy of that article do you have one at all?

The warnings have never stopped. Contagion is not such a great movie, but it IS an excellent how to piece on how to survive a pandemic. ...The trick is to hunker down, isolate and avoid social contact. Don't count on any magic pills - none exist.

Big pharma kills more people every year then those that die from any flu.
no worries..
Stay healthy, research the foods you consume and exercise.
It really is that simple

reply to post by Lil Drummerboy

Big pharma kills more people every year then those that die from any flu.

I'd say Big Pharma products push viruses into mutating - and creates new flu viruses.

no worries..

Thanks to Jakes51:

Stay healthy, research the foods you consume and exercise.
It really is that simple

No, it's not. See video above. .....The most important advice is to practice social distancing: isolate and quarantine yourself and family for each of the predictable 3 waves; do NOT touch others; wash hands frequently; do NOT touch your face; do NOT shake hands; do NOT touch anything touched, coughed on or sneezed on by others.

...and whatever you do, do NOT go to war. The 1918 pandemic flourished in the soldiers' barracks and trenches, and spread from there.

I see your points, however todays knowledge in just what foods give us our strengths to
defend us against such things are much better than in the 1800 and early 1900's
for example it is a fact that vitamin D and C is a great defender against flu,
Many people back then had no clue and thought eating mostly meat and potatoes
was sufficient. Many were on a poverty level and barely got any nutrition to begin with
leaving their immune system continuously in a compromised state. Once one got sick it would just
cascade to a full epidemic. Thats a no brainer

reply to post by Lil Drummerboy

I see your points, however todays knowledge in just what foods give us our strengths to
defend us against such things are much better than in the 1800 and early 1900's
for example it is a fact that vitamin D and C is a great defender against flu,
Many people back then had no clue and thought eating mostly meat and potatoes
was sufficient.

I see your points too, and agree that a healthy uncontaminated diet is absolutely essential, although difficult in today's world. fyi - people in the 1800's and early 1900's probably knew a helluva lot more about healthy eating than people today. For one thing, scurvy (from a lack of Vitamin C) was well-known - as were the dietary requirements. And the meat 'n potatoes thing? Direct result of marketing and agri-business following WW2.

Once one got sick it would just
cascade to a full epidemic. Thats a no brainer

The problem with pandemic flu is that it's deadly to healthy immune systems - it mostly kills the young and healthy, NOT the old and infirm. You MUST read this link at least, for more information: cytokine storm.

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Do you know that H5N1 bird flu is classified as a level 4 bio hazard, right along with all the hemorrhagic fevers, Marburg virus, Ebola virus, and hantaviruses?

From a recent case in Zimbabwe:

Biohazard name: A/H5N1

Biohazard level: 4/4 Hazardous

Biohazard desc.: Viruses and bacteria that cause severe to fatal disease in humans, and for which vaccines or other treatments are not available, such as Bolivian and Argentine hemorrhagic fevers, H5N1(bird flu), Dengue hemorrhagic fever, Marburg virus, Ebola virus, hantaviruses, Lassa fever, Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever, and other hemorrhagic or unidentified diseases. When dealing with biological hazards at this level the use of a Hazmat suit and a self-contained oxygen supply is mandatory. The entrance and exit of a Level Four biolab will contain multiple showers, a vacuum room, an ultraviolet light room, autonomous detection system, and other safety precautions designed to destroy all traces of the biohazard. Multiple airlocks are employed and are electronically secured to prevent both doors opening at the same time. All air and water service going to and coming from a Biosafety Level 4 (P4) lab will undergo similar decontamination procedures to eliminate the possibility of an accidental release.

I can't believe no one can remember the news story only a scant few weeks ago that detailed:

A Dutch laboratory claims to have developed a mutant version of the deadly bird flu virus that is for the first time contagious among humans, sparking fears it could be used for terrorist attacks.

A research team led by Ron Fouchier at Rotterdam's Erasmus Medical Centre said in September it had created a mutant version of the H5N1 bird flu virus that could for the first time be spread among mammals.

"We need to be very vigilant," said French Health Minister Xavier Bertrand.

The H5N1 strain of bird flu is fatal in 60 per cent of human cases but only 350 people have so far died from the disease largely because it cannot, yet, be transmitted between humans.

The announcement led to fears the mutant virus could find its way into nature or that the publication of the research on how the virus was mutated could be used by terrorists.

EU Health Commissioner John Dalli told journalists he had received assurances from Dutch authorities that the virus was secure.

Dutch laboratory creates 'mutant bird flu' sparking terrorism fears

There are a number of other stories on the net citing the same information.

Isn't it odd that since the bird flu did not manifest as "they" hoped it would that another virus would have to be created to obtain the desired effect? Now what about this outbreak? Is this now the engineered virus that has been released into the wild to do it's dirty work of euthanasia? Deep down inside I believe the original bird flu pandemic came not from nature but from laboratories. This is just the new and improved version since the other was not virulent enough.

So glad to see this important thread resurface, it is clear that we here in the States have dodged the bullet again on pre-Christmas flu pandemic from this but after the kids all go back we just may have a different story.

Oops edit to say remember to bone up on your Elderberry concentrate and all the rest of the arsenal of healing and protective herbs and supplements.

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Look at the Date on the news paper in the Movie " 12 Monkeys " !

It is Today's date! Scroll down the page and you will read two stories. One a report an the man dying of the flu and the other is the picture of the the news paper in the movie.

Originally posted by soficrow
UPDATE

H5N1 Bird Flu is spreading in Indonesia - and the latest infections raise fears that the virus is spreading person-to-person. One village has been quarantined.

Bird flu feared in new Bali death; Virus reaches Lombok

Bird flu (H5N1) is again suspected in the death of the mother of the two boys who died last week in Jehem village (Bangli Regency, Bali), raising fears the virus had been transmitted from person to person.

Meanwhile, bird flu has now spread to 9 districts on Bali, as well as to neighboring Lombok, where a village was isolated to prevent the virus spreading further.

ok now your starting to freak me out...just a little.

I will report back if we all start dying off...live from the the Philippines.

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Originally posted by FarmerGeneral
I can't believe no one can remember the news story only a scant few weeks ago that detailed:

Dutch laboratory creates 'mutant bird flu' sparking terrorism fears

Did you notice this thread was originally posted in August? Before Fouchier shared his findings at the flu conference in Malta, and before corporate industry seized the opportunity to scapegoat him and Wisconsin's Kawaoka for industry's crimes. ...as far as the cover-up blaming bioterrorism for industry-created viruses, I've also posted extensively on both the Dutch and US teams that wanted to share their findings with the world's flu researchers. I also made it clear their real "crime" was prioritizing public health over private profit.

ED to ADD: Re: population control and euthanasia

This flu kills young, healthy people with strong immune systems. Not at all the ideal population control mechanism. However, the pandemic WILL provide a great cover for euthanasia, and WILL be used for same - expect lots of "flu fatalities" of elderly, sick and / or disabled people in institutions. All to balance the budgets.

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after the kids all go back we just may have a different story.

Yep. Here's a quick overview of some current flu news:

Taiwan govt warns public to be on guard against flu

TAIWAN - Health officials and doctors yesterday warned the public to be aware of the ongoing flu epidemic that has already caused 11 deaths, and is expected to continue spreading.

…Among the 11 deaths reported so far, seven people were killed by type-B influenza, while the other four fatalities were blamed on the type-A virus, according to the CDC. All of them had failed to receive flu vaccines.

The flu epidemic is becoming increasingly dangerous and may come to a peak during the upcoming New Year countdown events, presidential and legislative elections and the Chinese New Year holidays, Wang Jen-hsien, head of Infectious Diseases at China Medical College Hospital, was quoted as saying.

Wang said the CDC should also be on high alert and inform those in high-risk groups to be cautious in view of the seriousness of the epidemic.

Novel H3N2 in Chinese pigs, humans in 5 US states

Novel flu cases prompt new CDC guidance

Where's the Flu? Get Ready.
CDC Data Show Little U.S. Flu, but Google Flu Trends Shows Hot Spots

Swine flu strain resistant to Tamiflu is spreading more easily

H1N1 antibody response in kids may correlate with disease severity

Those with the most severe disease, as determined by need for hospitalization and presence of pneumonia, showed the highest antibody response against the pandemic virus.

Dec 30 Virol J article

Vietnamese study finds high H1N1 seroprevalence in slaughterhouse pigs

"Our findings suggest extensive reverse-zoonotic transmission from humans to pigs with subsequent onward transmission within pig herds."

Dec 30 Influenza Other Respi Viruses abstract

Novel Swine Flu Virus Now Reported in 5 States, Says CDC

December 28, 2011 — The number of reported cases of a novel swine influenza virus has risen to 12 since July, encompassing 5 states, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The virus includes a gene from the human pandemic strain and affects mostly children.

….The infections in question involve a variant of the A(H3N2) virus that circulates among pigs. It contains a gene from the pandemic 2009 influenza A(H1N1) virus that codes for matrix proteins found in the viral shell.

The novel virus is worrisome enough that the CDC, the World Health Organization, and the World Organisation for Animal Health have dubbed it A(H3N2)v. The "v," which stands for "variant," distinguishes the novel virus from the seasonal A(H3N2) virus. The 2011-2012 seasonal influenza vaccine is designed to protect against this strain, the 2009 pandemic strain, and an influenza B strain.

In 3 of the 5 states where the A(H3N2)v virus has surfaced — Indiana, Pennsylvania, and Maine — patients became infected after direct or indirect contact with pigs. In Iowa and West Virginia, the other 2 states, the evidence suggests that the virus spread from human to human on a limited basis.

The CDC has not found evidence of sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus, but "all influenza viruses have the capacity to change, and it's possible this virus may become widespread," the agency states on its Web site.

Also note:

In addition to the A(H3N2)v virus, another novel version of swine influenza is on the CDC's radar. In a recent post on its Web site, the agency reported the discovery of an A(H1N1) virus with genes from avian, swine, and human influenza genes. Like A(H3N2)v, it features the matrix gene from the pandemic 2009 influenza A(H1N1) virus, which probably was transmitted from humans to swine after the outbreak of the 2009-2010 pandemic. The novel virus, called A(H1N1)v, was detected in a Wisconsin man who had worked with pigs before getting sick. The CDC did not identify any human-to-human transmission of this virus.

The economic crisis will make cases of bird and swine flu amongst animals grow. Farmers will be reluctant to admit that there's anything wrong with their animals in times where you earmark every single penny for survival.
More cases of flu amongst animals... in time will probably mean a lot more cases amongst people.

Hard times have a tendency to make hard times harder.

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ok now your starting to freak me out...just a little.

H5N1 bird flu is a real problem - but it's not the only one. We WILL see a pandemic, if not this winter flu season then later.

Don't panic - just prepare. The Hong Kong government's advice is good for everyone. It's all about "social distancing," pretty much our best defense.

...remain vigilant against avian influenza infection and to observe the following measures:

* Avoid direct contact with poultry and birds or their droppings; if contacts have been made, they should wash hands thoroughly with soap and water;

* Poultry and eggs should be thoroughly cooked before eating;

* Wash hands frequently;

* Cover nose and mouth while sneezing or coughing, hold the spit with tissue and put it into covered dustbins;

* Avoid crowded places and contact with sick people with fever;

* Wear a mask when you have respiratory symptoms or need to take care of patients with fever;

* When you have fever and influenza-like illnesses during a trip or when coming back to Hong Kong, you should consult doctors promptly and reveal your travel history.

For further information on avian influenza, please visit the CHP website: www.chp.gov.hk.


Source: HKSAR Government

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Certainly very scary now being reported in the UK press I would like to point out that it would probably not be unusual for passengers to carry live poultry bought from road side stalls on to a bus so maybe unknowingly in the tight confines of a bus a chicken sneezed and he inhaled the virus. www.dailymail.co.uk...

Bird flu is back: Bus driver dies of disease in China sparking fears of fresh outbreak
By LEE MORAN
Last updated at 3:18 PM on 31st December 2011


A Chinese bus driver died of bird flu today - sparking fears there will be a fresh outbreak of the potentially deadly disease.
He became unwell on December 21, was admitted to hospital on Christmas Day with severe pneumonia, and died this afternoon having tested positive for the H5N1 virus.
The 39-year-old is known only by his surname Chen and lived in the city of Shenzhen, just across the border from Hong Kong.


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

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Problem is, H5N1 bird flu is not supposed to be airborne. So if you're right, which you might be, then the virus has mutated to become airborne. This does not bode well for humankind.

....These mutations have been coming together for a good while in nature - as various agencies and organizations kept warning us. If this isn't the pandemic strain, be certain that the real threat is not far behind.