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Wow... England Needs A Revolution...

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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 06:53 AM
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To be honest I hate the obsession with labelling and pigeon holing things and people but you appear to give me no alternative.

In that one post you display all the generalised characteristics of 'the southerner' I mentioned in my post.

What annoys me most is that all of us English are pre-judged on the arrogant, stereotypical 'southerner' you apparently represent.




posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Swanfilters
 


To be honest I hate the obsession with labelling and pigeon holing things and people but you appear to give me no alternative.

In that one post you display all the generalised characteristics of 'the southerner' I mentioned in my post.

What annoys me most is that all of us English are pre-judged on the arrogant, stereotypical 'southerner' you apparently represent.



If it wasn't for your northern inferiority complex, your constant moaning and lack of any understanding of what life down south is actually like, I wouldn't have to point you out as the jealous northerner you are.

The most productive thing to come out of the north was Fred Dibnah, not only was he ancient and now dead, he was much better looking than any northern bird I have seen.
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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:02 AM
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Choosey? Are you kidding? Just get on a leaking boat (preferable be a male and leave your wife and children back in your dubious country of origin to fend for themselves) and make your way into our territorial waters, be sure to throw any identify paperwork overboard to make it harder to establish if you're a genuine refugee, use our legal system against us and wha-la you're on you way to welfare heaven! Thousands of Afghani refugees can't be wrong. Don't kid yourself, we'll take anyone these days, as long as you're not white, speak no English and aren't Christian.

Hang on, you're in England so from what I hear you probably fit the criteria.. lol



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by ALF88

Originally posted by Swanfilters
As long as the revolution is not a communist one, I would support major changes to our nation. Starred and flagged, good post OP.
edit on 30-8-2011 by Swanfilters because: (no reason given)


We NEVER had real true communism anywhere in the world. That's what most people don't seem to understand, just like theyle don't know the difference between anarchy and anomie.


Of course, you can keep spinning that lie to you're blue (or red) in the face, but the fact is, people know what communism is about, they see the poor conditions the Chinese, North Koreans, and Venezuelans live under daily. It's no good saying that it had any benefits, just look at Eastern Europe and the former Warsaw Bloc nations; it has taken them 20 years or more to get to even the most basic of living conditions that we in the free west benefit from daily. Russia is still a decade or more behind Western Europe, and isn't entirely democratic yet.
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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:12 AM
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England should find a English version of Ron Paul or Alex Jones and have an intellectual revolution. A physical revolt will just bring in the provacateurs and wild looters. Maybe work on getting rid of the royal family instead of groveling at their feet every time they wheel out some zombie to get married to a future murder victim.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
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I would love to see a seperate Northern England State as part of the British Union.

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And tho I would have liked to keep the Union together I can't stand the hatred generally thrown around.. especially the North/South divide.. so I lean towards a local party that is seeking a separate Sussex Parliament and towards adopting the ISOC (Independent State of Cuckfield) currency called the cuckoo
which really does sum up currencies in general.. plus the voting system is much fairer and more transparent with votes being sold at only 1p each which enables everyone to exercise the time honoured right of corruption.

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Did anyone every read the 'prophetic' story by John Christopher 'The Guardians'?
It very much describes England as it is about to become.


I havn't but the Tripods got me into Scifi at a young age.. will look it up.. thanks
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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by Swanfilters
Said by the murdering Jew? Surely you need to be getting ready for the richly deserves ass kicking the middle east is gonna be handing to you soon, instead of meddling in UK affairs that have nothing to do with you.
2nd.
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Erm...I'm actually not a Jew.
Though it gotta suck to be living in countries like UK or USA where you don't know who really your master is.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by Swanfilters
Of course, you can keep spinning that lie to you're blue (or red) in the face, but the fact is, people know what communism is about, they see the poor conditions the Chinese, North Koreans, and Venezuelans live under daily. It's no good saying that it had any benefits, just look at Eastern Europe and the former Warsaw Bloc nations; it has taken them 20 years or more to get to even the most basic of living conditions that we in the free west benefit from daily. Russia is still a decade or more behind Western Europe, and isn't entirely democratic yet.


It is obvious that you know nothing about political systems or the countries you have just mentioned. Neither China and Russia nor North Korea or Venezuela have / had pure communism.

Venezuela is a presidential democracy and yes its socialistic, but it has a leader that is not war mongering or enslaving his own people in debt. There is a reason why the West hates him. Like in other countries that reject being a puppet of the west and the Rothschild banking syndicate, the CIA is supporting small rebel groups there and is trying to overthrow the democratic elected government. It failed in 2002 and it will fail again.

By the way I was celebrating when he announced that he wants his gold back. I hope more countries follow.

VIVA GADDAFI ! VIVA CHAVEZ !


P.S.: If you believe that the West is democratic you are pretty naive.
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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:34 AM
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The problem is we don't appreciate 'what we do have'.

The UK and it's people are very rich compared to the rest of the world, even our poorest. ( I won't go into free healthcare, schooling, benefits for the unemployed, housing, etc) Christ, even people on the dole have mobile phones.

Sure, our economy is in dire straits, we are all a little poorer, the banks have screwed us over.
It makes my blood boil to hear of Northern Rock being bailed out by the tax payer for their incompetence and they are now turfing people out of their homes for defaults on mortgage payments due to people loosing their jobs. They are even running credit checks on people who have mortgages with them to see if they are defaulting on any loans or credit cards, then calling them up to 'advise them' how to prioritise their debt payments.

Yes all bad.

But is this really worthy of a revolution?

The idea of a revolution sounds great, 'I won't have to pay off my debt and I'll get cheaper bills' but what will be left of the economy after the revolution?

What are we going to revolt against? How many people who work hard will you screw over, causing their businesses to collapse? How many investors into the UK will pull out due to instability?

What system will you replace and with what?

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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by ALF88

Originally posted by Swanfilters
Of course, you can keep spinning that lie to you're blue (or red) in the face, but the fact is, people know what communism is about, they see the poor conditions the Chinese, North Koreans, and Venezuelans live under daily. It's no good saying that it had any benefits, just look at Eastern Europe and the former Warsaw Bloc nations; it has taken them 20 years or more to get to even the most basic of living conditions that we in the free west benefit from daily. Russia is still a decade or more behind Western Europe, and isn't entirely democratic yet.


It is obvious that you know nothing about political systems or the countries you have just mentioned. Neither China and Russia nor North Korea or Venezuela have / had pure communism.

Venezuela is a presidential democracy and yes its socialistic, but it has a leader that is not war mongering or enslaving his own people in debt. There is a reason why the West hates him. Like in other countries that reject being a puppet of the west and the Rothschild banking syndicate, the CIA is supporting small rebel groups there and is trying to overthrow the democratic elected government. It failed in 2002 and it will fail again.

By the way I was celebrating when he announced that he wants his gold back. I hope more countries follow.

VIVA GADDAFI ! VIVA CHAVEZ !


I think you are actually mentally ill. You should go and get help.

There's no such thing as "pure" communism, it always ends up as slavery of the people to the government, the only communism that exists is the one that the world sees failing time and time again. The lie that there is a "pure" version is just bandied about to keep the middle class students and university lecturers onside.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
We certainly need radical reform.

What amazes me is that despite the large increase in utility bills and food and clothing costs inflation remains at 4.4%.

Those that have been lucky enough to get wage increases are invariably index linked.

Those fortunate to have jobs are working harder and longer for less.

This country is going backwards.

Cameron is determined to take us back to Victorianesque times with all the social injustices and inequalities that went with it.

It is time to abolish the unrepresentative and corrupt party politcal system and adopt a system that puts the cares and concerns of the people of this country first and gives power to the elctorate.


They are about to effectively privatise the NHS too, and hand control of it to the EU zionists.

Reform is impossible. The whole system needs to be purged, dismantled, restructured and reset.

First thing the private, Rothschild controlled Bank of England needs to be stripped of its right to issue UK's currency. That right MUST be returned to a new government which represents the interests of the UK people to whom all the wealth of the country belongs. We ALL have a share in the massive wealth of the commonwealth, but they don't tell us that.. That wealth is OURS, not the governments, not the Queen's not the Banks' - it belongs to the PEOPLE.

The Queen needs to be exposed for her involvement in the Psychpathocracy and the royal family sacked.

A check on parliament needs to be re-established. There is NO check on parliament at the moment.

Government authority needs to be transferred to smaller regional units where the people have control over it, a la Ron Paul.

The criminals who have sanctioned the looting of the people by the Corporate oligarchy, and the corporate oligarchy themselves have to be charged, tried and imprisoned.

All debt should be written off.

The wealth stolen from the public should be returned.

Education re structured to do something good instead of wrecking lives.

Common law needs to be re-established and public servants forced to respect the law. The country should be run by proper law, not by corporatist interest.










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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by Swanfilters

Originally posted by Freeborn
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To be honest I hate the obsession with labelling and pigeon holing things and people but you appear to give me no alternative.

In that one post you display all the generalised characteristics of 'the southerner' I mentioned in my post.

What annoys me most is that all of us English are pre-judged on the arrogant, stereotypical 'southerner' you apparently represent.



If it wasn't for your northern inferiority complex, your constant moaning and lack of any understanding of what life down south is actually like, I wouldn't have to point you out as the jealous northerner you are.

The most productive thing to come out of the north was Fred Dibnah, not only was he ancient and now dead, he was much better looking than any northern bird I have seen.
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Fred was a dear family friend...He wasn't ancient he was 66 when he died..
I take it you never saw his halfhisage6foottallblondewife before you made that idiotic statement.
I should send his dog on you...It doesn't like weasels & ferrets.



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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by Swanfilters

Originally posted by Freeborn
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Not that it's the topic at hand but I'm as English as they come but if we are talking gross generalisations and preferences then give me a Jock any day over some namby pamby, self-centred, opinionated, loud mouthed southerner whom I have very little in common with and even less respect for.

I voted for The Northern Assembly when we had the chance.
If we had the vote now things would be a lot different.

I would love to see a seperate Northern England State as part of the British Union.

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The north was good at one point, now it isn't. You can always look elsewhere in the country for a job, but like most northerners, you'll most likely sit up there in the 3rd world moaning about how it's all gone tits up and being jealous of the South. Choice is yours.


What a disgraceful expression of what your mind is like. This is just the kind of thinking promoted by the garbage in The Sun - whose purpose is to divide people in our country.

We have a common enemy which is destroying our country. Time to put the gutter press aside, unite and work together.
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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by Swanfilters

Originally posted by Suspiria

Originally posted by Swanfilters

Originally posted by Freeborn
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To be honest I hate the obsession with labelling and pigeon holing things and people but you appear to give me no alternative.

In that one post you display all the generalised characteristics of 'the southerner' I mentioned in my post.

What annoys me most is that all of us English are pre-judged on the arrogant, stereotypical 'southerner' you apparently represent.



If it wasn't for your northern inferiority complex, your constant moaning and lack of any understanding of what life down south is actually like, I wouldn't have to point you out as the jealous northerner you are.

The most productive thing to come out of the north was Fred Dibnah, not only was he ancient and now dead, he was much better looking than any northern bird I have seen.
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Fred was a dear family friend...He wasn't ancient he was 66 when he died..
I take it you never saw his halfhisage6foottallblondewife before you made that idiotic statement.
I should send his dog on you...It doesn't like weasels & ferrets.


I should have guessed you all knew eachother. All related too no doubt.


No alas not. But we are related in the fact we all have chins and don't drink halves with a limp wrist.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:55 AM
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Instead of insulting each other, find out about how you have a share in the Commonwealth, how the system works, how it assumes you consent to be a slave...and how to change that.

This guy is excellent. If you're prepared to watch this series of several videos, it is a real eye opener.



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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:57 AM
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As if to say France or Germany are fairing any better than England these days?

I think it's time for England's 5th (possibly 6th, maybe even 7th) revolution.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 08:00 AM
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the country seriously has become a disaster. Everyone is being hit hard except the super rich. Most people i know are unemployed and most of them are being given or taken of benefit for simple things. I myself am a student, and i have been trying to find part time work and still cant get anywhere.

It used to be GREAT Briton, now its rip-off Briton.




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