Originally posted by marvinthemartian

Sounds like your from down south

So are you now

It was unfortunate that the Unionistas held sway mainly in the north, and even more unfortunate that they were not defeated once and for all. We still all suffer from Maggies failing.

Originally posted by Essan

Originally posted by marvinthemartian

Sounds like your from down south

So are you now

It was unfortunate that the Unionistas held sway mainly in the north, and even more unfortunate that they were not defeated once and for all. We still all suffer from Maggies failing.

And why am i? Because the day before i left school 300 000 working men were laid off in the north west, shipyards,plesey and tate and lyle all shut down in the same week so i did what that wonderfull example of a human being mr tebbit told us to do i got on my bike.

Originally posted by marvinthemartian

Originally posted by Essan

Originally posted by marvinthemartian

Sounds like your from down south

So are you now

It was unfortunate that the Unionistas held sway mainly in the north, and even more unfortunate that they were not defeated once and for all. We still all suffer from Maggies failing.

And why am i? Because the day before i left school 300 000 working men were laid off in the north west, shipyards,plesey and tate and lyle all shut down in the same week so i did what that wonderfull example of a human being mr tebbit told us to do i got on my bike.

Good on you Wish more Britons would follow your lead instead of wallowing in self pity and blaming every else and and letting East Europeans take all the jobs.

Labour, Conservative?

Both as bad as each other in my book.

Maybe once Labour had the interests of the British people at heart, but not for a long time now.

If you come from the wrong side of town or weren't educated at the right schools it is harder now to 'get on' than it has been for decades.

Succesive governments have put their own personal advancement and gain before the well being and interests of the British people.
When allied too a system that promotes the adhesion to party line and doctrine over personal conviction it has all contributed to a process that neither helps or supports the cares and concerns of the majority of the population.

Yes, this government inherited a mess from the previous administration, and they seem hell bent on outdoing Blair etc in their incompetence and corruption and are intent on taking us back to the Victorian dark ages.
But Labour supporters will rightly say that they inherited a financial and amoral mess from their predecessors who of course inherited a mess from the incompetent Callaghan and Wilson administrations.

And so the circle continues.

At some point we have to say enough of this bollocks and try to start afresh and start righting some wrongs!

Party allegiance in Parliament should be abolished and the power of recall given to the electorate in addition to an increased use of both national and local referendums would give a fairer representation of the electorates wishes instead of allowing the corrupt elite to persue their agendas against the wishes and well being of the British people.

As for the north / south divide, people from middle England have little comprehension of the realities of life outside of their own little bubble and the destuction that has been wreaked on our communities.

It's the whole system that needs to be brought down, there is no way this dire situation can be resolved at the ballot box. This political system is too thoroughly occupied by these from-the-cradle careerist politicians that seem to - at best - amount to not much more than being well-paid professional busy-bodies. Expecting these type of people to really want to make a difference to a system that they're doing quite nicely out of, is asking a lot.

When the revolution comes it will divide every institution.

To me the fact that Labour became New Labour and moved to the right to appease the more middle ground and abandoning it's traditional support is one of the worst things to happen in British Politics. They abandoned their whole reason to be. Their purpose was to represent the working class's not to cozy up to bankers and join in questionable wars. The neo Liberal agenda of New Labour has much to answer for in this country. But we have been failed by successive governments and now we have a Parliament filled with career politicians, on both sides of the House. They all have been to the same schools and universities and have never been so diss connected from the voting public.

I'm not sure a revolution is the way forward, but times are gonna be changing quicker than any of us have experienced in our lives, who knows how things will turn out over the next few years. It's certainly not going to get any easier for the man on the street for the forseeable future.

I do however feel we need to be positive and try and concentrate on the things we are good at and things we can do to try and get ourselves out of this mess. The blame game is only good for venting frustration, but gets us nowhere.

Yeah fuel costs are a joke and funny the increases are set just in time for winter. The banks are still coining it in with interest rates at an all time low and some ppl still paying 6- 8% mortgages. Boom/bust either way they win. The property business, surveyors, estate agents, banks etc are all in to make either way. Artificial boom to hike the prices then bust to clean up after.

Its dumbed down devolution all the way. We are a third world country already. Its a nation of scammers,dog eat dog. Our infrastructure is so old and overcrowded we can't cope with the load. Its a dead end downgraded dump of a country...... and the weathers crap !!!