Originally posted by SirClem
reply to post by NorEaster
I believe it is happening. I don't think there is any commercial purpose in bringing that news to us.
Our personal interpretation of what is real is so narrow, and most of that is controlled by commercial interests.
The federal government seems to be only an enforcement arm of huge corporations. Doesn't anybody else see this?
Okay, we agree on that point. That Tea Party stuff is pushback from the corporates against anything that smacks of seizing control away from "the
Private Sector" (ie: Wall Street and it's criminal cabal). Then, that same marketing arm of the corporate elite accuses the feds of jackboot
thuggery if they try to pull away from Wall Street's stranglehold, and the lunchpail crowd cheers them on. It's gotten pretty effed up over the last
few years, what with this administration getting hammered for trying to crowbar Wall Street's hand out of our Treasury and all. Just so that you know
where I'm coming from as I look at the implications of what you've suggested.
They kill people in so many different ways it is just mind boggling to me. If they aren't killing you outright, they are preventing you from
healing yourself, and that is the same thing as killing you.
Again, I can only agree with you to the degree that you're referring to the corporate henchmen that have been fighting back against the effort to
push Wall Street, and the global business elite, from the backrooms of Congress. If you're suggesting that Obama is trying to prevent me from
healthcare access, then you're out there on your own. That bullsh*t has been thoroughly discredited as being a tactic of the professional corporate
media and its bottomfeeding punditry, meant to derail any efforts to shut down the predatory practices of the health insurance industry.
If we are part of an international organization, like NATO, and NATO is killing innocent people, they are killing us.
And, where is NATO gratuitously slaughtering people? In Libya? Egypt? Are you one of those "NATO is setting up concentration camps here in the US"
folks? I guess I don't fall in with that sort of thinking, since I'm more dependent on actual proof of major atrocities, and with so much of the
world engaged in their own versions of same, I'm not seeing NATO as a real performer in that specific arena.
You simply cannot kill innocent people. If you are party to that, you are party to your own destruction. You are committing suicide in the
worst possible way. A slow but sure poisoning of the soul.
It is SO clear to me, but so many people are trying to "debate"...
At some point we, collectively, are going to have to take to the streets. I fear we will be in rags at that time.
I'd be careful of who you're following into the streets, and why they have you in the streets in the first place. The Communists had people in the
streets, the Nazis had people in the streets. The streets are a pretty popular destination for most really destructive movements, and it's folks like
you (all emotional and stuff) who end up opening the doors for those bastards to come in and really f*ck things up for everyone.
Positive reform isn't easy, and it isn't quick. It sure as hell isn't exciting or romantic. It's boring and tedious as all hell, and the only
exciting part of it is ripping the heads off those *ssholes who have been seduced by the elites who are trying to prevent positive change from
occurring. And it sucks to have to take those poor bastards down, because those are the people who - if they'd been more careful of whose "truth"
they'd embraced - would've been the ones to benefit directly from that positive change.
They say that when you're saving a drowning man, the most dangerous part of the effort is being killed by the man himself as he thrashes. It can
happen that you have to cold-cock the guy to save his life. Rescuing societies can be very similar, and in our case, it may very well be that a
certain % of this society may have to be harshly dealt with on behalf of the majority that deserves a better shot at overall survival. The Wall St.
elites have proven that they don't care about any of us, and that their control over our government is a threat to our survival. Those who fight to
preserve their domination - even if it's due to being duped by the professional marketing efforts of those criminal elites - will have to be taken
out as well, and that's going to really suck. The hope would be that they'd take a good look at what they've been defending, but that hope is