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War declared on Tea Party

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posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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I have never recommended a "free for all" in any way. That is anarchy and chaos which is what we saw in N Orleans.

I don't know what else to say about your post other than it wasn't that way before Socialism came to the States. The N Orleans situation represented a point where everyone was trying to survive during an extreme situation. No respectable person would ever suggest such a thing. I am for personal responsibility, not making others responsible for our actions.


The "Guilded Age" of the late 1800s in the US was a very perilous time period for the survival of the democracy in this country. If Twitter and the Internet had existed, the disparity between rich and poor would've obliterated everything. The effort to fight the factory towns and other schemes that industrialists employed to turn free people (men, women and children) into debt slaves ended up being a full scale shooting war, and the only thing that stopped that from igniting a 2nd civil war was the legalization of labor unions. Once the poor were given a ghost of a chance, they took it and got back to work. The right wing press caricatures the poverty stricken as lazy, but the truth is that only the children, the old and the folks who's life involves tending to them, will refuse to actually earn their way. The inner city black men end up creating their own economy, since they've been frozen out of the mainstream economy. They work their *sses off for money, just like everyone else. Their women work hard to try and direct their boys away from that economy, and that's some hellish work too.

These people don't want your charity. They just want an end to the closed shop that large corporations have set up across this nation. The men are sick of being told to work for McDonalds, when their own economy can net them 10 times what they'd make - as if they're the only Americans that don't have the right to chase a lucrative business venture. Only bitch is that retirement means life without parole, and forget health benefits. If you're serious about what you say, then you should be against the war on drugs. Hell, this is a product being offered to people who come looking for it. And how is it any less moral than WalMart selling some domestic insurgent enough bullets to hose down a local town meeting? Seriously. Who's hurting more people here...the guy selling some crackhead his next two hours worth of freedom from the jones, or the corporation that arms psychos?



I might add that you have a very peculiar and bizarre way of thinking I just cannot relate to, and also you make a lot of erroneous assumptions. You also do not seem to grasp the basics of American history. Are you American? Are you recently in America or living in a foreign country? Any person understanding the history of the American Revolution can easily grasp the concept of the Tea Party as related to the Boston Tea Party where colonials dumped tea into the harbor as a protest against the taxation of the British, and of course even that tax was far less than the outrageous income tax of today.
edit on 3-9-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)


What you don't seem to grasp is that no one - other than you folks - honestly views your movement in that way. No one. Well, maybe the corporate media talkers, but they get paid to say that drivel. We all know who funds the public face of your little adventure. Yes, there are independent chapters, but that's true of any group. That doesn't mean that you people don't have your talking points and ideological litmus tests. And if you think that you can point to a lack of a registered charter as being proof that your movement isn't a top-down organization - for the most part - then you're not being very sophisticated in your thinking. Not about me or about your own movement.

I'm an American. I have a very firm grasp of the history of the United States. The Boston Tea Party was a protest prank that the locals staged, and it was the press who jazzed it into what you were taught to think about it as a kid. As far as the tax burden right now - regardless of the income bracket - it's the lowest that it's ever been. Reagan's oppressive tax policy would've freaked you right out if this one scares you. Obama has not been able to raise on dime of increased taxes since taking office, and has actually lowered middle income and payroll taxes. But you probably don't realize that.

The Bush Tax cuts haven't gone anywhere, so yes you people are protesting Bush's tax policy with your Tea Party fun and dress-up. Really. Look it up (Google can help, but be careful of all those free-to-lie-to-you organizations that exist in spite of the "jack-booted" federal thugs that suddenly appeared when Obama wandered into the Oval Office.




posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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I find it funny that you target corporations and not the laws that allow corporations to exercize their rights in this manner.

I would assume that your disagreement is with Obama and the GE/China deal?



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
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I find it funny that you target corporations and not the laws that allow corporations to exercize their rights in this manner.

I would assume that your disagreement is with Obama and the GE/China deal?



The corporate elite have been stacking the upper management levels of every federal agency for the last 10 years, and there are several books that have been published over the last 6-7 years that detail names and complete resumes of these shills. I know all about how corporations control the law making in this nation. I worked as a marketing director for over 12 years, and surfed those waters every single day, since the majority of our money came from government contracts given to defense contractors. We streamlined the product development process of these monstrosities, and the ginned up War on Terror was a bonanza for us.

Did you know that both Home Depot and Lowes are owned by the same defense contracting corporation? In 2003 you could've learned that by accessing the annual reports of those hardware chains, but that got changed by corporate pressure, and now the SEC doesn't require a publicly traded company to disclose who actually owns it. Interesting, since many of the companies that make our weapon systems have foreign owners, and literally all of our Treasury deposits are loaned to us by a privately held British bank.

Wander through an org chart of the CIA sometime. The top tiers of that organization are manned by Wall Street brokerage house professionals who - surprisingly - launched new careers in counter-espionage and counter-terrorism as top tier coordinators and agency directors. Same with the FDA, the SEC, OSHA and the EPA. If you can connect those dots, then forget connecting anything ever.

hell, Obama's lucky if they allow him to use the Oval Office bathroom. Those crackers probably hate it, but sh*t, he is te president after all. Until they can grind our economy down enough (by sandbagging trillions in credit and capital) to make him lose reelection, that is.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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Christ, this stuff is too easy. I'm going back to the Metaphysics forum, where the truths aren't as obvious.

Go get 'em. They're stealing your future. Take back your America, and whatever else it is that gets you all worked up and ready for another Tea Party barn dance.




posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 06:13 PM
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Lemme get this straight. You're saying we're screwed. No hope?

I'm in the camp that believes change is possible. Don't like the current corporate laws? Get folks in office who will change them.

But if it's futile? Then join the collective, get the RFID chip, watch MSM, Dances With The Stars, take your flu shot and ambien and sleep well.
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posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 06:19 PM
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Well you have honestly given me some things to think about. I just may look at the CIA stuff you are talking about. Got any quick links ?



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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Hey I like Dancing With The Stars. It's one of the few tv series i will watch any more.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Hey I like Dancing With The Stars. It's one of the few tv series i will watch any more.

S'okay.

The wife and I watch American Idol.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 06:29 PM
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I just like ballroom dance. I got into that for a while but since 08 have put it by the wayside.



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 12:30 AM
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The tea party is a threat to America, a couple of billionaires made that BS up, and the sheep started following. Make no mistake they are not helping this country



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 12:54 AM
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reply to post by NorEaster


Lemme get this straight. You're saying we're screwed. No hope?

I'm in the camp that believes change is possible. Don't like the current corporate laws? Get folks in office who will change them.

But if it's futile? Then join the collective, get the RFID chip, watch MSM, Dances With The Stars, take your flu shot and ambien and sleep well.
edit on 3-9-2011 by beezzer because: (no reason given)



....and Eat Your Peas. Don't forget your peas...



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 01:56 AM
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Would you watch it if chaz bono was a contestant?



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 02:45 AM
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The Tea Party people are middle and right centered people that have a simple desire, smaller government and fiscal responsibility. The Uber left realizes that their welfare state is about to end and they know they can't win because the majority of people are or think like Tea Party people. its funny how the left fights back, the call names such a racist, where in fact no real examples can be pointed to. the claim violence, but again they can not point to good examples. The left on the other hand practices racism with attempts to intimidate whites at the poles. They say they should kill white babies. The Unions practice violence all the time, push, shove, punch are their standard mode of operation. The left has turned into a corrupt party, but not to worry, the mainstream people have woken up and will solve the problems at the voting booth. 2010 was a start and it will continue in 2012.



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 09:50 AM
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And why not?

They are a bunch of thieving scheming traitors except for a few honestly disgruntled and misinformed citizens at the front of the pack...like Joe the Plumber and a few of the posters in this and other threads I have seen. Other than that...mostly scum of the Earth. No good for America at all. Someone has to stop this kind criminal activity and folks, as you can see if you can read - it ain't the Tea Party.

If this is not ripping off American taxpayers, nothing is.




Having taken their blunt budget ax to Medicare, Medicaid, Head Start, EPA, NPR, and dozens of other popular and effective programs, they scampered to save one of the least popular and least effective federal programs on the books: the annual taxpayer subsidy for Big Oil.
As gasoline prices were rising to $4-a-gallon and higher, the House GOP voted unanimously to let the oil giants continue siphoning $4 billion a year out of our public treasury.

All 241 of the Republican/Tea Party House members—with not even one dissenter in the bunch—declared that in this time of a supposed budget “crisis,” the neediest among us are....the waifs of Big Oil.
Meanwhile, ExxonMobil just announced a 69 percent leap in profits this year, while Chevron, ConocoPhillips and others are enjoying similar jumps in theirs.

Guess what percentage of those enormous profits the corporations are likely to pay in taxes?
Zilch.

Their lobbyists have punched such gaping loopholes in our tax code that they can escape paying anything for the privileges and benefits they get from America.

Exxon, for example, had a $19-billion profit in 2009, but not only did it pay exactly zero in federal income taxes, it manipulated the system to get a $156 million rebate from us (taxpayers).

Likewise, Chevron, and ConocoPhillips had multibillion-dollar profits that year, paid not a dime in taxes, and also got refunds. www.texasobserver.org...


And you wonder why we are broke?


Keep blaming the government "programs" that help the poor and the destitute...what a crock.


edit on 4-9-2011 by newcovenant because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by mishigas
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reply to post by NorEaster


Lemme get this straight. You're saying we're screwed. No hope?

I'm in the camp that believes change is possible. Don't like the current corporate laws? Get folks in office who will change them.

But if it's futile? Then join the collective, get the RFID chip, watch MSM, Dances With The Stars, take your flu shot and ambien and sleep well.
edit on 3-9-2011 by beezzer because: (no reason given)



....and Eat Your Peas. Don't forget your peas...



Maybe you should be eating oil?



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 10:11 AM
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I find it sad that I've just read two posts that expose how the government is destroying this country on behalf of the corporations and you have some Tea Party Baggers ignoring the substance of those posts and carrying on about the welfare state.

You Tea Party folks are apologists and shills for the powers that be. A bunch of delusional nutcases that think that Ron Paul will change the world.

I hope you folks don't sit here and try to justify voting for Rick Perry next year when your messiah gets shut out of the race by these same corporations who you breastfeed and shill for, without seeing a goddamn dime or anything positive contributed to the American public.

Fools.
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posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by beezzer
 


And why not?

They are a bunch of thieving scheming traitors except for a few honestly disgruntled and misinformed citizens at the front of the pack...like Joe the Plumber and a few of the posters in this and other threads I have seen. Other than that...mostly scum of the Earth. No good for America at all. Someone has to stop this kind criminal activity and folks, as you can see if you can read - it ain't the Tea Party.

If this is not ripping off American taxpayers, nothing is.




Having taken their blunt budget ax to Medicare, Medicaid, Head Start, EPA, NPR, and dozens of other popular and effective programs, they scampered to save one of the least popular and least effective federal programs on the books: the annual taxpayer subsidy for Big Oil.
As gasoline prices were rising to $4-a-gallon and higher, the House GOP voted unanimously to let the oil giants continue siphoning $4 billion a year out of our public treasury.

All 241 of the Republican/Tea Party House members—with not even one dissenter in the bunch—declared that in this time of a supposed budget “crisis,” the neediest among us are....the waifs of Big Oil.
Meanwhile, ExxonMobil just announced a 69 percent leap in profits this year, while Chevron, ConocoPhillips and others are enjoying similar jumps in theirs.

Guess what percentage of those enormous profits the corporations are likely to pay in taxes?
Zilch.

Their lobbyists have punched such gaping loopholes in our tax code that they can escape paying anything for the privileges and benefits they get from America.

Exxon, for example, had a $19-billion profit in 2009, but not only did it pay exactly zero in federal income taxes, it manipulated the system to get a $156 million rebate from us (taxpayers).

Likewise, Chevron, and ConocoPhillips had multibillion-dollar profits that year, paid not a dime in taxes, and also got refunds. www.texasobserver.org...


And you wonder why we are broke?


Keep blaming the government "programs" that help the poor and the destitute...what a crock.


edit on 4-9-2011 by newcovenant because: (no reason given)


Notice how this post was ignored by the same reprobates running their mouths about entitlements and the welfare state.

You want to blame the plight of poor blacks, poor whites, and and poor hispanics for everything while excusing the people that sell this country up the creek for thirty pieces of silver.

Some TPers are honest and good people that want a better country. I like those people. The ones that are intellectually dishonest buffoons that carry on about this and that, masking their closet racism and making excuses for the corporate powers disgust me.


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posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by beezzer


reply to post by NorEaster


Lemme get this straight. You're saying we're screwed. No hope?

I'm in the camp that believes change is possible. Don't like the current corporate laws? Get folks in office who will change them.

But if it's futile? Then join the collective, get the RFID chip, watch MSM, Dances With The Stars, take your flu shot and ambien and sleep well.
edit on 3-9-2011 by beezzer because: (no reason given)




....and Eat Your Peas. Don't forget your peas...





Maybe you should be eating oil?


Maybe you should eat your own words.

Maybe you should grow up and stop making assumptions about people's politics that you know absolutely nothing about.



posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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If you add the money we should be getting from energy companies but aren't
to the taxes the wealthy top 1% of the country effectively steal from the nation
(off shore account, hedge funds and loopholes) and cheat their way out of paying because they are protected and nannied at every turn by these thieving and duplicitous GOP and Tea Stains

We would not have a deficit.
We would have a surplus.
We might even be able to spring for a war or two, if that is what makes you happy.
And I know it would.
Call me a liar.



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posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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Are you folks for real ? You think the tea party is allright but at the same time you think JW is responsable
for 9/11 ? Have any of you crazy poeple ever used your brains ? The military industrial establishment is who
is bankrupting america,not a bunch of welfare recipients or jobless poeple or Obama and his tribe...get real !
Not that I am in favour of him,I really don´t see a big difference in his actions to those of his predecesors.
The whole system is a mockery yet you get all excited by the tea part...why excactly ? cause they are standing
up for the rights of all us millionaires,cause they are fundamentalists and if given the chance would make war on their own country and poeple ? wow !!



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