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Rick Santorum Didn't Learn His Lesson

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posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 03:27 PM
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Santorum is calling Ron Paul out on his stance on Iran again, because apparently he didn't learn his lesson during the Iowa debate. Here's what Paul said recently:

At a Saturday stop in Winterset, Paul said that Islam is not a threat to the United States, but that America’s military presence in the Middle East promotes terrorist hostilities. He referred to University of Chicago professor Robert Pape, whose research suggests most suicide bombings in the past three decades can be traced to military intervention.

Specifically, Paul mentioned the U.S. presence in Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam, as a key provocation of al-Qaida’s Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Osama bin Laden, who was born in Saudi Arabia, had said as much himself.


Santorums criticism was limited to an e-mail sent to The Des Moines Register, and in it he claimed that Ron Pauls position was insulting to Americans and those who died in the 9/11 attacks, and also said that Ron Paul doesn't understand "the enemy":

“To imply that we were the catalyst of the attack on 9/11 disparages the memory of those who lost their lives on that tragic day and is an insult to who we are as a people,” said Santorum, a former Pennsylvania senator. “Congressman Paul’s understanding of the enemy and why they have attacked us is shockingly misguided.”


Santorum also tried to explain why Ron Paul is wrong, keyword here tried:

“Congressman Paul needs to realize that they hate us not for what we do, but for who we are. The terrorist attacks on 9/11 were not the first they executed against this country and, by our enemy’s own words, won’t be the last,”


What do you guys think, is Santorum just another war-mongering tool, or does Ron Pauls "We started it!" position not hold any water? I think Paul is spot on, it makes much more sense that they would attack us due to our military presence rather than because of "who we are".

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posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 03:33 PM
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You can't sustain hate using logic..so you sustain it with fear. "They hate us not what we do"..what drivel, but it helps maintain the fear.

Of course Paul is right.

Peace



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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Didn't you get the memo?

They hate us for our freedoms. Therefore, by continually whittling away at said freedoms we can get the Muslim extemists to hate us less. By the time we get our RFID's implanted they'll probably downright love us.

Seriously though, Ron Paul is right. Every action has a reaction and that's what they refer to as "blowback" in the Global War on Terrorism. Santorum's a tool; nothing more.

The idea that they wish us utter destruction due to who we are and not what we do strikes me personally as ludicrous.

Peace.



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 04:04 PM
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Didn't you get the memo?

They hate us for our freedoms. Therefore, by continually whittling away at said freedoms we can get the Muslim extemists to hate us less. By the time we get our RFID's implanted they'll probably downright love us.
Yeah if those terrorists attacked us for our freedoms, then it was only logical that we launch a pre-emptive strike against our very own freedoms and beat them to the punch in the form of the Patriot Act.



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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Rick Santorum's biggest problem might be what you get when you google the word "santorum."



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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“Congressman Paul’s understanding of the enemy and why they have attacked us is shockingly misguided.”


What is misguided is thinking that we were attacked because "they hate us for our freedom".

Does anyone feel free when they are being molested by the TSA?
Does anyone feel free knowing that we are being spied on by our own Government?



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Rick who?



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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So is there anybody here that sides with Santorum on this issue?

There's gotta be at least a few Santorum supporters out there....



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by TupacShakur
So is there anybody here that sides with Santorum on this issue?


I'd be surprised if there was. Santorum is quite obviously a self-righteous chode. He really needs to learn when to just stop talking.

Pathetic that he would still be trying to claim that the U.S. bears no responsibility for the way we are perceived by others. If 'terrorists' really hated us for our 'freedoms,' they could just declare victory at this point and call it a day. In their wildest dreams they could never destroy more freedom than Ricky-boy and his ilk.



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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I heard Santorum on the radio this morning. He was claiming that, by taking on Paul in the debates, it actually got more people to vote for him because he "exposed" Paul's "extremist" views. Santorum thinks that taking on Paul helped him to do as well as he did in the straw pole.


He came in what, third to last? Good job there loser. [atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/627e50ac6244.gif[/atsimg]


BTW, don't google santorum unless you have a strong stomach. And whatever you do, don't do a visual search.


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/01d4c0170206.gif[/atsimg]



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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I heard Santorum on the radio this morning. He was claiming that, by taking on Paul in the debates, it actually got more people to vote for him because he "exposed" Paul's "extremist" views. Santorum thinks that taking on Paul helped him to do as well as he did in the straw pole.
Santorum would think that. The only thing he exposed was his own ignorance and blind devotion to the economically unsustainable non-stop wars that this country has been fighting for who knows how many decades.

Ron Paul said it best: he's just building up the war propaganda like before we went into Iraq. We were told they had weapons and we had to intervene, and it turned out they didn't have any. Same situation here, it's just a reason to keep us in the Middle East.


BTW, don't google santorum unless you have a strong stomach. And whatever you do, don't do a visual search.
Yeah that website with the new definition is actually the top search result in Google
. Here's what Santorum had to say about his frothy self:

It's one guy. You know who it is. The Internet allows for this type of vulgarity to circulate. It’s unfortunate that we have someone who obviously has some issues. But he has an opportunity to speak.
Read about it here.
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posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 08:10 PM
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I highly doubt we will find many Santorum supporters. After all as Jon Stewart put it, "He is a guy who lost to a guy who lost so bad he dropped out of the race"






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