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Interesting Report about Area 51




Topic started on 21-8-2004 @ 12:07 PM by Chieftian Chaos


Ok...I'm not sure if this his been on the boards, and if it has, forgive me, since I am too lazy to look deep into the boards. But read this, and tell me what you think about it.

www.all-natural.com...



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reply posted on 21-8-2004 @ 12:09 PM by infinite



Originally posted by Chieftian Chaos
Ok...I'm not sure if this his been on the boards, and if it has, forgive me, since I am too lazy to look deep into the boards. But read this, and tell me what you think about it.

www.all-natural.com...


I don't recall reading this.
Good find



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reply posted on 21-8-2004 @ 12:37 PM by ShadowXIX


That was a interesting read, it was weird to have him talking about all this stuff but still hold to some secrets. Most articles like this have them going all into the UFO aspect of it but he seemed to shy away from it for the most part.

Also I found the whole neutron bombs in most of the ICBMs thing interesting.

Another thing I wonder what issue of PM he was ralking about that got close to the truth without even knowing it. Was it perhaps the USAF plans for a nuclear powered diskshaped orbital craft.



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reply posted on 21-8-2004 @ 01:16 PM by FredT


Good find and an interesting read.



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reply posted on 21-8-2004 @ 01:18 PM by bzap


Thanks for the article. Nice find!!



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reply posted on 21-8-2004 @ 01:37 PM by Durden


I agree with previous posters. Interesting read .



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reply posted on 21-8-2004 @ 11:03 PM by Chieftian Chaos


Yeah, I'm surprised no one else found it...I just did a search for the Area 51 book series (since I'm reading that now) and found this. I posted this on here mainly because he shyed away from the UFO topic which one of the above posters pointed out. I really didn't get a lot of time to really thourougly read it though, but I'll give my opinions when I read it...which might be tomorrow...I'm just surprised it hasn't been posted yet.



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reply posted on 22-8-2004 @ 06:56 AM by WhiteWolf420


The man says something along the lines of 95% of what’s done at Area 51 is uninteresting, lol I still want to know what that other 5% is. Also when asked about the incident in Roswell he mention imprisonment. Near the end of the article he also states, if you see something unusual in the sky, and the government attempts to cover it up with a weather balloon excuse to basically don’t trust them.

Nice Read, even though I skimmed thought 1/2 of it.



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reply posted on 22-8-2004 @ 08:06 AM by dribbler


He claims to know too much. He had 'Top Secret Clearance". The military and government intelligence community is very compartmentalized. Someone to have the general knowledge that he has does not make sense.

He also leads up to things:

"I don’t know how many of you people knew that, that was done in the 60’s. We’ve had a number of accidents out at the test site the public never knew about. I’m not really at liberty to talk about that except it may be interesting for you to know that I now live in South Dakota..."

And then indicates that he does not want to talk about it. If he did not want to talk about it why did he bring it up.

He is using sympathy as a tool to convince, he almost wants to sound heoric:

"And I will never live in Nevada. I personally have 2 body burdens of plutonium 39 in me and if I live long enough and become old enough, I will die of bone cancer. But I’m not worried about that because I knew what the risk was when I got into the business. "

He discusses technology that he appears to have known about but was featured in PS:

"We’re developing the technology now, and I don’t mind talking about it because Popular Science came awfully close to the truth here a few months ago in one of their issues and I don’t think they even knew it. The Air Force in cooperation with the Department of Defense is developing an aircraft now that will go in speeds in excess of speeds of 10,000 mph which is almost fast enough to achieve orbit without boosters. And that is a nuclear powered thrust system. Whether or not that will ever become public or not, it’s hard to tell, because nuclear engines are very dirty - very dirty."

He wants to appear as the only source for information:

"The only other things I can tell you about Area 51 is that there will never, in our life times, be any information let out about some of the things that are out there."

Debriefing would last days if not weeks and not be one sit down session with someone claiming to have the clearance he does:

"When you leave out there they debrief you. And the debriefing lasted quite a few hours, the better part of a day"

This is contradictory:

"there were 6 of us, we were all trained observers, we were not the type of people who see things go bump in the night, I’m pretty skeptical about things, generally"

You either fly in or take a bus, you do not drive to work:

"We saw it, I saw it, the 5 other fellows with me, we stopped the car and got out and watched it for 15-20 minutes"


He is now more important than the President:

"Neither one of them were shown certain things. The President does not have Top Secret Clearance."

You convienently left your badge at home and you talked the security people into letting you have it, ummmm, NO!

"I was going to bring my security badge with me and I forgot it, I still have it. I had a top secret clearance with sigma’s on it. These sigma’s denoted what informational areas I was privy to and one of those areas was Area 51. I got it as a souvenir when I left, I talked the security people into letting me have it."

This guy in the photo would have far more respect for a device than this if he were to have clearance to even be near the damn thing:

"I have friend who has a picture of himself sitting on a nuclear weapon smoking a joint. "

If he were working with advance technology at 51 then he would be able to operate the computer:

"I can’t even run my son’s computer as well as he can and technology is going faster than our ability to keep up with it."

I think we have some sad old guy here who lacks accomplishments and feels the need to portray himself larger than life. That being the case I deem the story "not factual".



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reply posted on 22-8-2004 @ 08:20 AM by Chieftian Chaos


Alright...even though I posted this, I just got done reading it...lol...anyway, here is what I think...

He mentioned that if the public found out what was going on in Area 51, that the people would panic. He also mentioned that 95% of what was going on at Area 51 was uninteresting. If the public would panic over the 5% of what was at there that makes me believe that that 5% is more than weapons.

Here is a quote: "I saw some things in Area 51 that, objects, that were strange, didn’t seem to be something that, at the time, we had the capability of manufacturing. I don’t know where they came from, I don’t know much about them. But I saw what I saw with my eyes. I did ask, on 2 separate occasions, one of caretakers, that’s what we called them, and I was told the first time - don’t ask. Now, remember, I had to have a Top Secret clearance, I had a "need to know". Our group, 80 of us, could go anywhere. We could ask any questions because of what we did. But that was one subject that I was told, don’t ask. The second time I asked, I was warned that if I asked again, some rather dire things might happen. So I never asked again. I’m familiar with the Roswell incident in 1947 in New Mexico. I have every reason to believe that the Federal Government found something there. I have every reason to believe the Federal Government will never tell what they found there. We have so much paranoia of humans, anyway, if there was any leak that some sort of life form had visited this planet, the Federal Government is convinced that people would panic and that anarchy might prevail for awhile. That’s about all I can say."

You can tell he is just gutting it out here. He wants to tell the public something, but he knows things will happen to him if he does, and whatever the gov't says goes. But I do believe he was giving us the wink here when he mentioned the aliens and anarchy. That is the only reason why he would mention anything like this.

"I’m not really at liberty to talk about that except it may be interesting for you to know that I now live in South Dakota, I don’t live in Nevada anymore."

I don't find this interesting personally...but for those of you who believe in a South Dakota base...chew on that.

And about Roswell: "All I can say is sometime, during my tenure at the Nevada Test Site, there was debris from Roswell, New Mexico stored away at Area 51. I was lucky enough or unlucky enough to see some of it. I don’t take any pleasure in that knowledge because it puts a constrain on me I don’t like to have."

He says he thinks he was either lucky or unlucky...but most of us would consider ourselves lucky to see what the debris was. I can't make any statements...but I really find that statement interesting.

When he was talking about Quantam physics and going beyond the speed of life...he mentiond that humans were just exiting their mud homes...like we were primitivie. This leads me to believe that he knows about some other life, and they are far more advanced than us. Of course, this is all speculation, but that's what went through my mind here.

"To someone else may be very common, very explainable and very ordinary. I’m just about to walk over the edge here . . . they may not be . . . if you were to see a person, you may not recognize that person as someone you thought might live on the face of this planet. And that’s all I’ll say about that, I swore to God I wasn’t going to say that."

He gives it all away here.

All I have to say is that he indirectly answered a lot of our questions...if it is legit...which I believe it is.



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