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Sevilla 111 Gigapixel Grossly Edited

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posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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Has anyone noticed that the 111 Gigapixel image of Sevilla has been edited to add buildings, birds, and to even add bushes and trees where they weren't at before?

I have been carefully studying the picture for the past couple of hours and noticed that much of it has undergone editing to the point that it is not even realistic any more. Scan the horizon for a flock of black birds, then when you find them zoom in and you'll notice blue, green and violet pixellation around their edges. To the far left of the picture, there is a kids park. Slightly to the left of that park are trees that were clearly pasted into the picture. Also along the horizon there are clearly buildings that weren't there a couple of months ago and the pixellation around their edges indicate that they were pasted in.

Makes me wonder if the guys presenting this picture are trying to cover something from us, or if they are trying to present a false picture to the rest of the world so that we would think that a socialist country could be a pleasant place to be.

Hell, if they are gonna edit the picture, they could at least cover up all the trash and the grafitti everywhere... and paint in some hot chicks tanning on the roof-tops.

LINK: www.sevilla111.com...




posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 10:01 PM
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posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by Juanxlink
I take it your from the US, and you have the balls to spew crap about spain?

A thread about how a website promoting a picture...and it has to be because the OP is an American? As an American I respectfully ask why is that?




Retards do what retards do...

And then you follow it up with an equally damning and downright offensive statement.



BTW, who cares about photoshopping a relatively useless picture?


Well if we read the actual website regarding the photo:

Sevilla 111 Gigapixels is a huge panoramic and interactive photograph of Seville city, which consists of 111 thousand million pixels. A new worldwide record since December 2010.


The photographers, José Manuel Domínguez and Pablo Pompa, wanted to capture the magic and charm of this enchanting city to make it available for all the people around the globe. This was inconceivable a few years ago; nowadays it is possible thanks to the technological advances of digital photography.


It seems that the photographers wanted to 'capture the magic and charm' of said city. If they also photoshpped the image, that is additinal magic and charm that does not exist. All in a world record phtograph. Not the greatest f ATS topics, but something that deserves some attention nonetheless.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Never seen that before and i thought it was really neat. I seen in the foreground a vehicle with its plates obscured. I'm sure they had people scout this to remove offending things and privacy concerns. Don't blame them myself. Thanks for the link though



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 11:31 PM
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Check out some of the interactive billboards, that's a clear shoop.

Okay, pan all the way to the right of the panorama and locate the two large buildings. One is pyramidal on the right and the left building is cylindrical with a bisected circle that looks like the Pepsi symbol.

Follow the left wall of the cylindrical building upward to the horizon. You should find a darkened area of the sky, just above the horizon, it almost looks like smog or a cloud/fog. Here you also see the break between two pictures used to map this part of the panorama but you'll notice a small section that appears more "clear" than the surrounding area.




The break is important because it clearly shows the contrast between the two photos.
Slightly above the "light" area, which appears to have been modified, the smog seems to blend perfectly with the adjoining photo to the right.

There is even an anomaly in this modified area that carries the dark shading of the smoggy areas.
To my eyes it looks an awful lot like a bird. It almost looks as if the surrounding area was crudely blended by hand.

I dunno if this was done specifically to showcase this bird and the power of the 111 Gigapixel or if there is something that the publishers do not want seen. That's up to you... I'm just amazed at how fast technology has moved over such a short period of time.
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edit on 28-8-2011 by amnislupus because: Pics cause it happened



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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Wow cool site, has anyone else come across anything similar? (other then google earth)



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 12:03 AM
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The sad thing is you and the OP believing this worthy of a post here. And the mods not sending it to BTS where it belongs. Besides, no one answered so, I must assume Im right...



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 12:49 AM
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Sorry to say but the "phenomenon" that you perceive as edited birds is most likely just Doppler shift. The Doppler effect is measured by blue and red light frequencies.



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 05:25 AM
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Thanks for the link. (S&F) After checking out the zooming feature for a few minutes (looking for UFOs obviously,
) I came across a pretty shocking site of a gun man on a building roof top. See below for my zooming in on him







I wonder what/who is in that building the person is protecting or if the person patrolling the roof top is a possible sniper or killer on the loose? Thoughts?



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 05:53 AM
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All this picture is is a combination of smaller pictures glued together like a puzzle. That is why there is some issues with contrast and at the seams. This is how all panoramic pictures are taken.



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by MConnalley
Sorry to say but the "phenomenon" that you perceive as edited birds is most likely just Doppler shift. The Doppler effect is measured by blue and red light frequencies.


Actually, Doppler shift is something else which doesn't produce the effect described in the OP. What does produce that effect is something called chromatic aberration. That's pretty typical of the type of wide angle lenses used to make a 360 degree panorama. To avoid it they would need to take many more photos with a narrower field of view.


Originally posted by mnmcandiez
All this picture is is a combination of smaller pictures glued together like a puzzle. That is why there is some issues with contrast and at the seams. This is how all panoramic pictures are taken.
I think you hit the nail on the head. The OP just has no idea how a 360 degree panorama image is created. Of course things are going to be patched together. But that's evidence of images being patched together, not of "photoshopping" or faking the image.



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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Here's another similar type of image, it is a gigapixel image of Obama's Innaugeration:
Obama Gigapan

... and how the guy made it:
How the Image was made...

Echoing someone else's comment from another thread, I could just imagine one of the things that Obama could have said at this point... "Where da white women at?!"... lol



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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I have seen at least two more sites like this, one showing Paris (and some UFOs, for those who can find them
) and the other showing Delft, in the Netherlands, but that site is not working any more.

There's a Wikipedia list with the largest photographs in the world.

Edit: you can even make your own with Microsoft's Image Composite Editor.

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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Arbitrageur - You are correct that I have little-to-no idea of how a 360 degree panarama image is created. I do, however, know how to recognize a photoshopped image.

Towards the far left of the picture, someone has clearly photoshopped a tree to extend its branches - possibly to hide what was on the sidewalk...



Take a careful look at the horizon, for example, and you'll notice that there are tree tops without tree trunks holding them up. They are just suspended in mid-air. In some areas of the horizon, the sky meets with the earth in smooth transition, and in others there are hard pixels showing the abrubt intrusion of a cut-and-paste against the sky.

Take a look at the second crane from the far right of the picture. That crane was clearly pasted into the picture. The person who cut-and-pasted the crane in did an extremely sloppy job at it, as well...


I sure hope nobody is going to blame rudely cut-and-paste circular devices such as the one depicted in this picture on "dopplar effect".

There are literally hundreds of photoshop modifications in this picture.

In short... this picture was supposedly online to demonstrate the 111 gigapixel camera's photographic capabilities. All that it is showing to me is that someone knows how to cut-and-paste a bunch of images on top of one another in order to construct a false image of a city.

Now, to Juanxlink...

Yep, I am from the U.S., and proud of it. I'm not spewing crap about Spain so get off the defensive. Take a look at the picture. If this is really the way that Spain is, covered from one side to the other with trash and grafitti then I think I'll just let the picture speak for itself.

As far as "who cares about photoshopping a relatively useless picture?" Well, I do. Especially since the picture is supposed to demonstrate the capabilities of a camera that I may be interested in purchasing... if it can really take 111 gigapixel photos. But, the photoshopping makes me wonder if this is all just a big hoax.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by Underworlds
Arbitrageur - You are correct that I have little-to-no idea of how a 360 degree panarama image is created. I do, however, know how to recognize a photoshopped image.
Any panorama (unless it's made with a special camera) is made from several images, and these digital versions have even more images for the different zoom levels, so they always have some kind of processing.

Also, to avoid legal problems, they cover people's faces and licence plates and other things like that.

But they also have some strange things, like this area, just above the one you posted.



This is clearly a cloned area.


Take a look at the second crane from the far right of the picture. That crane was clearly pasted into the picture. The person who cut-and-pasted the crane in did an extremely sloppy job at it, as well...
I don't think the crane was pasted onto the image, if you look at the building behind the crane (the Mapfre building) you can see that the crane doesn't look pasted over that part of the image. What I think happened was that they didn't had a good image from the buildings behind the crane and used other photos, so they pasted the background "behind" the crane, not the other way.


In short... this picture was supposedly online to demonstrate the 111 gigapixel camera's photographic capabilities. All that it is showing to me is that someone knows how to cut-and-paste a bunch of images on top of one another in order to construct a false image of a city.
No, the picture was to demonstrate a 111 gigapixel image, not a 111 gigapixel camera, there's no such thing.

It looks like the problem is that you have a different idea of what a panorama is, so you are finding problems that all people that make panoramas know and for which there is no real cure. One of the reasons behind the problems in these images is that the photos are not taken at the same time, so we can be looking at a photo taken in one day and the one beside that was taken on the following day, so the sky looks different.


As far as "who cares about photoshopping a relatively useless picture?" Well, I do. Especially since the picture is supposed to demonstrate the capabilities of a camera that I may be interested in purchasing... if it can really take 111 gigapixel photos.
It's not, it's made to show the city, not a camera that does not exist. That's why they used 9,750 images, as they say on the site (did you read it?).


But, the photoshopping makes me wonder if this is all just a big hoax.
Look for more information about panoramas and you will see that you are wrong, without proper software, photoshoping is the only way to make panoramas.

PS: but, as I said above, some areas are clearly altered, but that's not surprising either. Don't you know about all those problems with Google's street view?

Edited to add that the camera is a Canon 5D mkII with an 400-mm lens with duplicator also by Canon, which is equivalent to 800 mm of focal distance. It's a 21 megapixel camera.
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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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*sigh* Ugh, and I thought maybe those of you who don't understand these "gigapixel" photos may have picked on one of us explaining them in a popular past thread, they are STITCHED together using hundreds of individual photos. It is not a single photo, well not originally. You can't have a perfect giga-picture with no anomalies using this process.

Head over to gigapan.org and browse the many gigapixel photos people have made and be in awe at the countless "shoops" and find a conspiracy in each one.

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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Underworlds
As far as "who cares about photoshopping a relatively useless picture?" Well, I do. Especially since the picture is supposed to demonstrate the capabilities of a camera that I may be interested in purchasing... if it can really take 111 gigapixel photos. But, the photoshopping makes me wonder if this is all just a big hoax.
Armap is right. It's not one image, it's actually 1,665 images stitched together and they aren't making any secret of that fact: Even after we pointed this out to you it apparently didn't sink in because you're still talking about a camera that can take 111 gigapixel photos. There is no such camera that I'm aware of.

www.hetutech.com...

The picture was made with the Canon 5D mark II and a 400mm-lens. It consists of 1.665 full format pictures with 21.4 mega pixel, which was Recorded by a photo-robot in 172 minutes.
It took almost three hours for the robot just to take the 1665 photos and then months to work on the stitching, so of course there will be stitching artifacts.

BTW if you use the Microsoft autostitcher that ArMaP posted the link to, you will still get stitching artifacts, but there's no photoshop involved with that application, it has its own stitching engine.

The reasons you get stitching artifacts are somewhat complex, but their existence doesn't have anything to do with intentional fakery, it has to do with the fact that photos have inherent distortion in them so the edges never match perfectly for the entire span of the photo.
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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:06 PM
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Horrible looking urban sprawl.
Nice technology though.



posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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When this image was first brought to the site i think it was established that was a construction worker getting a morning cup of coffee. Thanks op for the post. You would think the world's record picture should be authentic, unadulterated, and uncut, except a better explanation would be that this is the world's record collection of images to make the most hi def single aggregate image.
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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by BernardMarx
Wow cool site, has anyone else come across anything similar? (other then google earth)


Yeah, there's other sites that show loads of images in very, very high resolution, like this one.

www.gigapan.org...

The images are stunning.

The levels of zoom are incredible...wish they could have this for moon shots i can tell ya!



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