Define Better - Big Pharma's campaign to kill your soul.

CCHR has released a new approach to exposing the crimes of the Big Pharma - Mental Health industry conspiracy to enslave us with drugs. The subject is quite well covered in other posts on this site and on their site.

Star and Flag because the words to this hit home. I'm just coming off their drugs, trying to wake myself back up, 'cause I'd rather be a problem to others than be something other than who I am.

I'm not much on the rap style of music but this is one well put together message!!!!!!

And this song kicks ass!!!!!!!!!

I became increasingly disabled with a chronic health condition starting about 15 years ago. Doctor after doctor, specialist after specialist, said all I could do was try to mitigate my symptoms with pharmaceuticals. So when I finally could no longer work, in a desperate attempt to regain enough health to support my three kids (single mom with father absent from the picture) - I broke down and agreed to try medication.

To give you the reader's digest version, one medication led to the recommendation of a second, etc. We're talking $2-3K a month in so-called medicines. And of course, I never really benefited in any real sense from them; they made the worst days a bit more comfortable, but left me dizzy and out-of-it on the better days. Then my insurance gets cancelled, I have to sell my house to pay off medical bills, and when I said enough was enough, I wanted to stop taking all the "symptom management" pharmaceuticals, my doctor informs me that I must stop over the course of many months or risk serious health consequences, like a heart attack.

I've been pharmaceutical-free now for 9 months, and I will never, never take another prescription without very compelling evidence that it is necessary. These big pharma companies are truly the worst of the worst corporate scum - interested in treating, not curing (more money), with very little real understanding of what their products are doing to the long-term health of their customers.

I was medicated as a child.

The worst times of my life, period. My frequent anger and out-lash as a child was because of my mother and father fighting and being unable to explain things to me, so these feelings just kept manifesting and manifesting inside of me until I had a anger and hatred that I couldn't get rid of and didn't know how to deal with.

I absolutely oppose medication and would never allow my children to ever be placed on any form of mind-altering pharmaceutical. Hell. No.

That song really, really, really hit home with me. The amount of drugs they used on me as a child was absurd.

I wish more people knew what they were actually doing to their children..... and I wish more people knew how to actually raise children..

Love and light.

Thank you for posting this.
All those overmedicated souls out there deserve a voice that fights for their recovery.

Riddle me this, caped crusaders. If a pharmaceuticals company is not trying to push their products on you at every opportunity, how would they make any money? Doesn't sound like a good business plan not to.

Also, approximately 25% of the population in the United States actually needs the anti-psychotic and anti-depressant drugs they are taking. There are a lot of genuine mental conditions out there that require these medications. Without them, the results could be disasterous.

Then again, there are additionally millions of people in the US who do take drugs they don't really need. But the last time I checked, you had a choice of whether or not to stuff a handful of pills down your throat. Nobody forces you to take them.

finally a rap song about something
reminded me of old times

s&f this song is amazing, even without the awesome message...great hooks and melody well done to the people that made this.

i bet you most people will dance on the music rather than understand the words.

i hope im wrong , but thats my feeling and thats what i believe most people are.

S&F BTW

reply to post by allenidaho


No they don't - but we (at least us older folk) were conditioned to believe that our doctors were knowledgeable in the potential risks of medications they prescribed - you know, the old "double blind" and published study = known effects mirage. And they don't know.

I'll give you one example of how I have seen this play out. Effexor is a very well known and widely taken medication in the "anti-depressant" category. It is only one of many, but it is the one I have personal experience with. I was actually prescribed it by my doctor after an article was published in a leading medical journal - (I believe the New England Journal of Medicine, but I could be mistaken) - the article stating that it could be helpful in managing the symptoms of my rheumatological disorder. It was the first medication outside of anti-inflammatories and pain medications to be featured as a possible symptom treatment for my condition. I was encouraged to allow at least six months on the medication before I evaluated the results - and to increase the dose accordingly (both of which were components in the study).

I experienced severe side effects after a few months when taking a dose late - even by a few hours. That should have been a huge warning flag, but it was discomfort I avoided by taking my medication on time, like a good sheep. When I finally decided to stop it, I found the withdrawal of chemicals caused extremely intense vertigo - so I researched a bit about how to manage this problem. What I found out shocked me - a huge majority of patients were experiencing similar problems - with people struggling for years to get off the stuff. The pharma company claimed not to really know why this happened - but considered it a non-problem - after all, it was a great built-in profit-maintaining situation.

I know that pharma companies can do amazing things - Its just my personal opinion that it is only when huge profits can be made that they actually do them. In my health challenges and journey, they have actually done much more harm than good. I think the biggest thing they've done of late is viagra.......not exactly the big problems society needs addressed, IMHO.

The Church of Scientology spares no expense in putting these messages out. Despite all the negatives in the media about them, you must respect them for getting the message out.

reply to post by l_e_cox


20 years ago i was in a car accident, couldn't sleep.

my doctor gave me a prescription for sleeping pills.

i started loosing my memory, very scary.

i read in paper about others having the same problem, so i stopped taking the pills and my memory returned.

i'm in my 60s and take no prescriptions, i don't trust chemicals.

reply to post by allenidaho


25% of the US population is "psychotic"?

reply to post by l_e_cox


Very nice song.

It is up to the patient ultimately to decide if the benefits outweigh the risks. If someone is the type of person to sit back and let a doctor write them prescriptions without investigating their use and risks, then that is unfortunate that they allow that to happen. If you don't understand what is being given to you, it would be smart to find someone who can look into this for you (a family member or friend, that is).

There are such things as appropriate drugs and dosages for certain conditions. Go with the smallest effective dose.

I take a medication for sleep issues related to 'bipolarness' as I call it. I have tried not taking it, but that leads to me barely getting any sleep, which in turns causes a heap of problems. I still continue to try alternatives with the hope that I can get off of the medication. As far back as the Greeks, they used medication to help control people's moods. It's called lithium, and today it is considered to be on the more dangerous medications since it is toxic at high levels in the blood. Regular bloodwork is required for lithium.

Worth mentioning is that a lot of the side effects that are listed are listed for legal reasons. They basically list everything so that they can cover their butts.

I think we need to look at the possible reasons why we see things today such as autism and ADHD. These are new. The cause, then, it seems would also be something we brought on to ourselves without realizing it. Television is known to cause epileptic seizures in certain people (so are certain video games). Could some of our technology be causing these other illnesses?

It is up to the patient ultimately to decide if the benefits outweigh the risks. If someone is the type of person to sit back and let a doctor write them prescriptions without investigating their use and risks, then that is unfortunate that they allow that to happen. If you don't understand what is being given to you, it would be smart to find someone who can look into this for you (a family member or friend, that is).

There are such things as appropriate drugs and dosages for certain conditions. Go with the smallest effective dose.

Exactly.

I have a neuroscience background so here's the basics: Over time your body adapts and adjusts to almost any drug which affects neurotransmitters or their target receptor sites. Such drugs would include drugs for mood (anxiety/depression), drugs for sleep, and drugs for pain. Depending on the drug, the dose, and the person, these changes might take place over a matter of weeks, months or years. This has two consequences:

Drug tolerance: Developing a tolerance means that it requires higher and higher doses to achieve the same clinical benefit.

Withdrawal: Once your body has made these adjustments, taking the drug away causes unpleasant side effects.

I totally agree that it is up to the patient to make sure they understand ahead of time what the characteristics of the drug in question are, and then take it at the lowest possible dose. Drugs are not intrinsically bad, ignorance is.

reply to post by plnelson


The one I take for sleep is the only one that really works. I hope the day never comes that I do not respond to it. What has happened is that I have over the years been on varying levels of it. I have taken higher levels in the past, but at the present I take the lowest.

I try sometimes to sleep without it, but it can leave me grouchy. If I combine sleeping naturally with a brief fast (very low calorie consumption for about 48 hrs), I am actually able to sleep great and wake up refreshed and ready to go. It really is amazing. Of course, I cannot sustain myself without eating, so eventually I must eat and take that medication to sleep again.

I just hope the dose I'm on works for a while, or maybe perhaps by some "miracle" I can "fix myself" and go back to sleeping naturally. But, at the same time, this is not a condition that usually goes away. It can be alleviated and made worse, but it doesn't disappear as far as I've heard. I will keep trying though. Certainly can only help to try different approaches to wellness.

Originally posted by allenidaho
Also, approximately 25% of the population in the United States actually needs the anti-psychotic and anti-depressant drugs they are taking. There are a lot of genuine mental conditions out there that require these medications. Without them, the results could be disasterous.

I remember the old days when they didn't have these anti-depressants to treat all these new illnesses. It was horrible. People had to work out their problems themselves. People went to church, and talked to their neighbors. They relied on their loved ones for support. They even spent time with their kids. Oh, it was bad alright. Even disasterous. It's a miracle anybody made it through.

reply to post by Open2Truth


Yes they do actually. I dont doubt the side effects you are talking about, but people with life threatening mental illnesses are a far cry from rheumatoid sufferers. These drugs (anti-depressants) can save lives, and I can attest to that first hand. I am not a "big pharma" fanboy, I just know that there are people who can benefit substantially from some of these drugs.

reply to post by Pandy13b


I agree - but I don't think they are responsibly and ethically studied, marketed or recommended. I certainly don't deny that pharmaceuticals can and do save lives - including anti-depressants, as you correctly pointed out. But it has been my experience, including working for a long stint in the medical device manufacturing industry, that the drive for profits and the result of benefiting humankind only occasionally intersect.