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posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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infinity is a range of number.

i don't call it concept, but i call it a range of number in "series".

to make it physically appear so you understand how i view it,
i use an example = computer memory address.
each address is real, they are able to store your bits.

now we come to a concept, "place to hold a number", it is unseen stuff, but maybe mathematician will discover them soon or they discovered already.

a number need a placeholder in order to exists.

what infinity got is a range of place to hold any number but it hasn't yet hold any number.




posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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Infinity I would always imagine to be a "positive" event because you can always add to, subtract from, multiply by and divide by and yeild a result.
Zero on the other hand is zero and you can't add to, multiply by, divide by or subract from and yeild a result.

Negative results, that is to say -1, -2, -3... etc etc simply don't exist and can't be proved to exist.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by Doublemint
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no you got alot of small pieces of oragnes.


Interesting. So you have an infinite number of undefinable single points. Good job.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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ok let me see here so if I have five dollars and then spend five dollars I now have infinite Dollars?



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by requireduser
infinity is a range of number.

i don't call it concept, but i call it a range of number in "series".

to make it physically appear so you understand how i view it,
i use an example = computer memory address.
each address is real, they are able to store your bits.

now we come to a concept, "place to hold a number", it is unseen stuff, but maybe mathematician will discover them soon or they discovered already.

a number need a placeholder in order to exists.

what infinity got is a range of place to hold any number but it hasn't yet hold any number.


Exactly. It is the observer who defines the number in its place from this range of possibilities. In zero, the only possibility is zero. Now you can have someone who says, " 2 comes from counting 0,1,2", but then they are being inconsistent with the reality that there is no possible way to get something to come from nothing. Therefore the use of intinity instead of zero is infinitely more appropriate.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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Therefore the use of intinity instead of zero is infinitely more appropriate.

 


My bank account is at zero, but I wish it was infinite.


Make sense still?



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by shortyboy
ok let me see here so if I have five dollars and then spend five dollars I now have infinite Dollars?


No, you have the potential for the manifestation of any amount of dollars. You have to be the one who does the work to erect this amount from infinity.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by requireduser
infinity is a range of number.

i don't call it concept, but i call it a range of number in "series".

to make it physically appear so you understand how i view it,
i use an example = computer memory address.
each address is real, they are able to store your bits.

now we come to a concept, "place to hold a number", it is unseen stuff, but maybe mathematician will discover them soon or they discovered already.

a number need a placeholder in order to exists.

what infinity got is a range of place to hold any number but it hasn't yet hold any number.


Exactly. It is the observer who defines the number in its place from this range of possibilities. In zero, the only possibility is zero. Now you can have someone who says, " 2 comes from counting 0,1,2", but then they are being inconsistent with the reality that there is no possible way to get something to come from nothing. Therefore the use of intinity instead of zero is infinitely more appropriate.

I like this idea as it makes a lot of sense to me. I guess another way to look at it would be 1 + 1 is NOT 2 but 2 1's...



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by boncho
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Therefore the use of intinity instead of zero is infinitely more appropriate.

 


My bank account is at zero, but I wish it was infinite.


Make sense still?


Yes it does.

Infinity is a formless realm in which no definition is given for at the point of definition, a finite concept is rendered and therefore manifested to be apparently separated from infinity. You do in fact have infinity in your bank account, although this isn't necessarily a desirable quantity because it is not even a quantity at all. All you have in your bank account is the potential for any number to arise at the point where you do the work to get it to arise.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:41 PM
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no you got alot of small pieces of oragnes.


divide by infinity is like "whether tomorrow 2:34pm will start raining or not, you need tomorrow to know the answer"
you won't know the result unless you put a number inside infinity placeholder.

divide by zero is different, zero is a bridge between 1, 0, -1, zero is special.
i got 4 books and i return all 4 books to library, i got no book.
0 is not to be treated as the same like other number, 0 is not a number.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by requireduser


no you got alot of small pieces of oragnes.


0 is not to be treated as the same like other number, 0 is not a number.


Neither is infinity.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:46 PM
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Neither is infinity.


yeah, but 0 != infinity.
they are totally different.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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based on what i posted just now...

infinity is a place holder of number in a series,

so, i assume we accept this series of number, -5, -4, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

if i start my series from -5, and when i said -5 to infinity, i means, this "0" are inside the infinity.

thats why i said infinity != 0. and 0 != infinity.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:52 PM
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reply to post by requireduser
 


okay I was thinking you just divide by all the posibilities, but you said makes since.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by requireduser
based on what i posted just now...

infinity is a place holder of number in a series,

so, i assume we accept this series of number, -5, -4, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

if i start my series from -5, and when i said -5 to infinity, i means, this "0" are inside the infinity.

thats why i said infinity != 0. and 0 != infinity.

Now this is interesting because I don;t actually accept negative numbers...

Zero is just that, zero, nothing... it's impossible to subtract from nothing.

On the other hand, infinitely small "infinity" would exist as a starting point as it's always possible to have more than zero.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by Doublemint
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okay I was thinking you just divide by all the posibilities, but you said makes since.


divide by all possibilities, (but you can choose only one "value" out of your all possibilities), the moment you choose a number from infinity, the moment you would get the "result" of your division.

like the experiment in quantum physics, particles or wave, or Schrodinger's Cat
you get the result immediately once you pick a number from infinity.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 09:03 PM
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Yeah but infinite can be found between any 2 numbers...Infinite exists between the numbers 1 and 2 because the value between them can always be divided by 2 (for example).



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Now this is interesting because I don;t actually accept negative numbers...


i got 5 oranges, but i am suppose to give you 8 oranges, i owe you 3 oranges,

5 - 8 = -3



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by requireduser


Now this is interesting because I don;t actually accept negative numbers...


i got 5 oranges, but i am suppose to give you 8 oranges, i owe you 3 oranges,

5 - 8 = -3

Give me with -3 oranges...



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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Infinity is scales or fractals. The best description of this Universe is the Sum of All Things Zero.






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