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posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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this will be a long post.

well last year i got heart palpitations and that was my first trip to the hospital. i have always been healthy, and active but something weird happened. but they never found anything anything with my heart. now one year later the problems continued and i made ALOT OF visits to the Er. i have made test but everything came out fine but i still got chest pains and weird sensations. now i got so obsessed over my heart that i landed in a hospital and had to take anxiety meds. all doctors told me that it was anxiety. but i refused to believe them. stayed for some time on the meds and felt better. i even talked to the docs at the hospital. he wrote a document and signed his name on it that i should consider myself healthy. then i have made other test and it came out fine.

the question is... are the doctors lying to me? maybye someone told them not to tell me? do you think this is anxiety or do i have something serious. this has caused me alot of problems. my mother and father thinks i have anxiety too. but i still doubt the doctors. but maybye the doctors don't know so and they say its anxiety? someone knows?




posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 03:42 PM
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I had something similar happen to me too. It started to really freak me out. I kept thinking I was going to have a heart attack. I had multiple ER trips and tests and all came out fine.

Turns out I was having panic attacks with my anxiety.

They feel like an anxiety attack only worse imo


I didn't like the meds they put me on so I took valerian root (stinks BAD) but it worked for me.

Have you talked to a psychiatrist? I know after I found out I was having both panic and anxiety attacks I saw a shrink...That too helped.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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i have anxiety too, a narsty thing.

the difference between anxiety chest pains and heart chest pains is this. when you have anxiety your chest pains will be dull or sharp and only over the direct area of your heart, they do not radiate over your body and do not inhibit your function. they still cause fear and panic, but you can still move around and do stuff. heart attack and etc chest pain will be a crushing or squeezing sensations that radiates to your neck, back, arms, and chest, it makes you fall to the floor.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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Anxiety manifests in many ways. I have anxiety (probably not helped any by being on this site), and I often get heart palpitations, a tight feeling in my chest, and random pains. Unfortunately, I also have a rather problematic hernia, which only worsens the anxiety.
Plus, I know of many people, personally, who have anxiety - my mother included -, and, overall, their symptoms are the same as what you described.

Probably one of the biggest aggravations of anxiety is the anxiety, itself. Once anxiety starts giving you heart problems, it inevitably leads to thoughts of having a heart attack, which adds to the anxiety.

My suggestion is, if you've been examined by doctors and they say it's just anxiety, then that's exactly what it is. You're not alone, by far, and everyone I know with your exact same symptoms (including me) are living normal - and, so far, long and healthy - lives.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 03:50 PM
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Friend, I know what you are going through. I have the same problem. I have numerous panic attacks because I worry that "oh, there's something wrong with my brain or heart". I've had the strange sensations that you've described and I'm still here.
What I'm saying is, just try and live your life and don't let the anxiety get in your way of doing that. It's hard, I know, but if you don't try and live life things are only going to get worse. What we both have is anxiety from Hypochondria. There's nothing wrong with you my friend. Anxiety can make you feel some weird sensations, but you just got to tell yourself that you are okay and that you're not going to let it control your life. I wish you the best of luck bud. Be strong.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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I get heart palpitations too. The more you dwell on it, the more and worse they seem to get. It's a pretty normal thing from what I've read, and nothing to really worry about. Sometimes my heart will skip a beat or two, and then feel like it's coming through my chest when it kicks back in, along with a surge of what feels like adrenalin.

If your tests are coming back negative for anything, and the doctors are telling you there isn't anything wrong, I wouldn't obsess over it. I don't see any reason they would lie to you, or keep information about your body away from you. I'm sure that if they really wanted to turn you into a cash cow, they would tell you otherwise and keep you in a perpetual visitation for treatments and tests.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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welcome to the anxiety club. Unfortunately your doctor is correct. it sucks, but you will learn to live with it.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 04:03 PM
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I also have had the same exact problem. Its a very uncomfortable feeling in my chest around my heart area. I too thought that I had heart problems or lung problems because I smoked at the time. Although I didn't go to the ER I went to the doctors twice and had an EKG, and Chest x-rays. They found nothing, and the said it was most likely anxietyso they put me on Xanax. I Stopped taking it because it would make me drowsy, and loopy as I was going to school for autmomtive technology. I have to use my hands and I work with many potentially dangerous tools and moving parts so I have to be all there. It brought me some relief that it wasn't a heart problem, and after I stopped the meds the chest pains went away, so I figured it was anxiety and It was all in my head, and nothing to worry about. A couple months later the pain came back, so I went in again to a different doctor. He said that It could be acid reflux effecting the nerves in that area, so he reccomender Prilosec OTC, I didnt take it but bought a generic over the counter brand with the same EXACT ingredience. It actually seemed to help, more then the xanax did.

But now here I am 8 months later, and Im fine most of the time but I still do get the chest pains and tightness pretty often. I am fairly neglegent on taking antacids though.

However, It seems as If it occours after I eat something greasy, salty, unhealthy, or if im around ciggarrett smoke. So now Im thinking my cholestorol might be high, I didnt get a blood test when I went into the doctors. I will be soon though, I have put in an effort to stay away from fast food and generally eat healthier.(more fruit, veggies, water, ect)

Its VERY uncomfortable though and sometimes it scares the hell out of me, I think my heart is going to birst out of my chest. And thinking about it makes it worse.

S&F, Ill put in anything I find out about my condition.

Hope ya fell better.
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posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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I had something similar happen to me too. It started to really freak me out. I kept thinking I was going to have a heart attack. I had multiple ER trips and tests and all came out fine.

Turns out I was having panic attacks with my anxiety.

They feel like an anxiety attack only worse imo


I didn't like the meds they put me on so I took valerian root (stinks BAD) but it worked for me.

Have you talked to a psychiatrist? I know after I found out I was having both panic and anxiety attacks I saw a shrink...That too helped.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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I too have anxiety. Sucks, but I know what I have to do. Anxiety usually manifests as tension and tension is holding on to something when nothing is there. I meditate and do tai chi. Meditation need not be complicated, even when watching tv or walking, the focus is on conscious breathing, from the belly. Slow in through nose out through nose. Put your mind in each area of your body and see if there is tension there and relax it with each exhale. Try to focus on the exhale as slow and deliberate.

When you have anxiety it pretty well affects your chest area. Muscles become tense, then your breathing becomes shallow. This is where the anxiety can manifest in pain and weird feelings.

Remember to let go of the tension and breath.

This helps for me.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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Oh ya, definitely sounds like anxiety.

Same thing here. Had to change professions because of it.

I also have a hard time swallowing - which is related to anxiety. I had a tube stuck down my throat and everything. Turns out it was just my throat muscles having spasms which is caused by anxiety.

So yeah, not sure what to tell you. It is a terrible club to be in.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:12 PM
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I have tried to find a link but cant so bare with me.

I used to suffer EXTREME anxiety disorder which made me almost housebound. I had the palpertations too but they are not serious or life threatening and everyone has them only people with anxiety are not only more prone but hyper in tune with heart beating so notice them more.

Firstly lay off caffeine products as these enhance and increase feelings of anxiety, raise your heart rate and cause papertations.
Lay off the alcohol too as this depresses your system, messes with your already out of whack brain chemistry, raises your heart rate, takes fitness levels down and reduces vital minerals your body needs.

Start a fitness program. Do not keep in your head (like i did) that you cannot start a fitness regime incase you "have a bad heart"/palpertations etc. Just do it. Getting fit and getting a sweat on fixes the brains chemical instabilty bought on by anxiety. It also gets rid of the excess corterzone hormone that your body produces during anxiety which in excess make you feel worse, and can start attacking major organs.
Fitness balances you out, increases confidense back in yourbody and gets you back that control that you had lost.

Drink water instead of any other beverage to keep you hydrated and flush away toxins.

Eat healthily.

Just change your program lifestyle.

In the meantime learn to meditate.

Pick a point on the wall, stare at it and start ti deep breathe, in through the nose and out through the mouth. As you are doing that take your concentration to the centre of your brain called the amygdala that controls anxiety response. Concentrate on it and imagine it as a pressure gauge which goes from green (normal) to red (panic).
People with anxiety disorders have the pointer in the gauge stuck on red. So as you are concentrating and deep brething imagine pushing that lever back into the green.
Once you have acheived that then imagine the last time you had a panic attack and at the same time concentrate on the centre of the brain keep pushing the lever into the green.
Do that for every trigger for anxiety.
This worked for me pretty much over night but you still have to make those lifestyle changes to get rid completely.

Hope this helps



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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Don't take this board as gospel, I too had a weird feeling and heart palpitations only in my case it was all to real to deal with.
I thought is was work related stress as I worked in a brewers warehouse lifting 56 liter kegs etc....
After about a week I went to the hospital and they could not believe I was still alive.
Enlarged heart and 15 days in the heart unit out of town set me straight, 15 tests minimum and more than a few were invasive.
My point here is if you think or feel something is wrong it is more than likely something is wrong.
Please don't assume it is a panic attack or stress attack, and if your not confident with the diagnosis please for your sake and your families get a second or third or fourth opinion if you can.
Regards, Iwinder
PS I don't want to fear monger here but you only get one shot with a heart condition if you let it go too late.

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posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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Wow, we have SO many anxious people! There's a conspiracy in here somewhere too, surely there must be.

I too suffer from nearly crippling anxiety and I have experienced this many times myself. It's still kind of scary every time and for some reason I keep it a secret when it's happening and try to ignore it or think of something else.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:47 PM
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Check yourself in to a top specialist if you still have doubts. Have you been cleared of any blockage?



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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Had issues with this in 06 and again this last winter..
Did the hospital thing had a EKG each time and all was was fine.
the first time the doctor wanted to do a Heart cath to see if there were any
blockages. And there were none.
the pulmonary doctor suggested I learn to de-stress and cut back on caffeine.
that was the first time.
After I got palpitations the second time I did research on my diet.
I went back and logged all the foods I was eating and what I was drinking.
each time I had this issue I was eating allot of processed meats.
beef sticks, summer sausages, breakfast sausages, lunch meats were all part of my
daily diet.. So I looked at the one common ingredient that was in all this junk.
Sodium Nitrites and Nitrates
Sodium Phosphates
Mono sodium glutamate or MSG
All these chemicals have a very adverse affect of the heart, one being heart palpation's.
I eliminated all the ingredients above from my diet and increased my Omegas and B vitamins
along with potassium intake (bananas) and heart issues are gone.
Oh and I still drink 4 cups of coffee every morning



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 09:18 PM
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I have suffered from Panic Attacks my whole life, Do not think I could tell if I was having something since these attacks when you get them seem like its your body calling out something is wrong...

I have found certain things can be triggers and other things can help make them stop...

For me oddly enough putting my hands in hot water seems to help? Have no idea why.

I also have Lorazapam .5 mill prescription that I keep on hand and having it helps from the fear of having an attack.

I have a very un-usual story related to this which dates back to when I was a teen. Some day I may share it ...

But for now I will say It was an encounter beyond normal....



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
Had issues with this in 06 and again this last winter..
Did the hospital thing had a EKG each time and all was was fine.
the first time the doctor wanted to do a Heart cath to see if there were any
blockages. And there were none.
the pulmonary doctor suggested I learn to de-stress and cut back on caffeine.
that was the first time.
After I got palpitations the second time I did research on my diet.
I went back and logged all the foods I was eating and what I was drinking.
each time I had this issue I was eating allot of processed meats.
beef sticks, summer sausages, breakfast sausages, lunch meats were all part of my
daily diet.. So I looked at the one common ingredient that was in all this junk.
Sodium Nitrites and Nitrates
Sodium Phosphates
Mono sodium glutamate or MSG
All these chemicals have a very adverse affect of the heart, one being heart palpation's.
I eliminated all the ingredients above from my diet and increased my Omegas and B vitamins
along with potassium intake (bananas) and heart issues are gone.
Oh and I still drink 4 cups of coffee every morning



Same here. I can only relay my own story below. Also, Besides the Sodium Nitrates, phosphates, and MSG (still have to watch lunchmeat) high salt content in general will mess me up. I have Conn's, or Hyperaldosteronism. Adrenal issue, easy test to see if you have it. Makes me dump potassium which in turn gives me an irregular heartbeat and skips, which makes me Anxious because I think I'm going to die!

Just something you may want to check out. Has been a few years now and still have issues if I have to much Salt / MSG / Nitrtates or drink a crap ton of cola, coffee or smoke to much. Yes, cigarettes also cause it period. I have quit for weeks at a time and can attribute smokes as one of the causes of heart skips. To much Caffeine, to much salt.

But yes, the doctor at first tried to give me anti anxiety medicine... I said "Look, I only get anxious when I think I am going to die, I am not stressed and fine up until that point" and made him do the tests I needed.

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Have you had testing done for adrenal issues? (And Thyroid)

I have Hyperaldosteronism or Conn's Disease (look up the symptoms on a search engine). My Adrenal glands produce too many hormones which causes anxiety due to excess adrenaline, testosterone and aldosterone rushes for no reason. I don't need excitement or stimulus to produce adrenaline, it just comes in waves at anytime.

Of course, the Doctor attempted to give me anti-anxiety drugs but I knew something was physically wrong because I only got "anxious" when I thought I was going to die (rapid heartbeat, irregular heartbeat, cold sweats, extreme heat, wringing hands and muscle spasms, low potassium, higher than normal blood pressure, etc.)

Blood tests diagnosed the issue when I pressed for them (low to no Renin, High Aldosterone, low end of normal blood potassium). Now I take a couple $4 a month prescriptions of Spironolactone and toprol to block these over produced hormones and it cured "most" of the problems. It did slow my metabolism a bit because I can no longer eat thousands of calories a day and not gain weight like I used to and I am not "juiced up" all the time like I have always been since a teenager but when you hit the late 30's your body can't take being juiced up all the time anymore.

Just an FYI - Something to check out because the doctors LOVE to just throw anti-anxiety medicine at you.

Update: besides the two $4 a month prescriptions of Spironolactone and Toprol, I also have to take a Klor-con M20 tablet daily as I still dump to much potassium even with the potassium sparing diuretic. Klor con is just potassium salt. But really, go get tested for a possible Adrenal or Thyroid problem. It is rare (why the doctor will rarely test for it unless you request it) but hey, it is exactly what my problem was.

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posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 10:03 PM
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I'm glad I was able to come across a post like this!

Just like the OP, I was going through the same thing last year. And for many years I've had that feeling time and time again. I would have palpatations regularly and I couldn't understand why. Eventually I was referred to a top-cardiologist within my area, whom happened to perform a quad-bypass on my grandfather and has examined all the rest of my family. It was a nerve racking experience everytime. I took stress tests, a take-home EKG test with cellular monitoring, bllood work, and physicals. Ultimately the doctor deemed me more than fit and healthy. It helped immensely to know he has a family history due to his previous experience with my relatives. But I still wasn't relieved. It wasn't until I smoked some herb laying down and stood up afterward where I was hit with a bout of anxiety that had me convinced I was dying. My bloodpressure dropped, I turned pale and broke into a cold sweat. I swore it was the pot and said I'd never touch it again. After a few days I didn't get as bad anxiety or palpitations. I waited about two weeks and smoked to see what effect it had on me. And lo and behold back came the palpitations and anxiety. I realized then and there it was the herb that was making my anxiety worse with paranoia.
So instead of quitting pot, I do breathing exercises when I feel I'm gonna have a moment and after a bit, I relax and my heart rate returns to normal. But still in the back of my mind I'm wondering if I'm really having a heart attack. It's a scary thing, and always hate when it comes on.
OP the best I can say is go to another doctor if you're not confident with your own. Private doctor's don't conspire together in situations like this.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 10:10 PM
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Well ATS with all of the "end of the world" threads, crashing economy, FEMA camps, comets crashing into earth, zombie attacks, and "people like you" rampages won't help your anxiety.

To keep my anxiety level down I use lots of Valium and Corona beer and other stuff. I'm mellow!



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