Originally posted by Cythraul
Originally posted by UngoodWatermelon
And "races" (as if such a thing actually existed outside of the realm of human imagination)
Wow! Now that's a lie so enormous any Dictatorship would be proud of. To deny the beautiful diversity of planet Earth like that, and to ignore the sciences of geneticism and anthropology. Racial variation does exist and we should enjoy it, not attempt to destroy it by denying facts that some of us find uncomfortable.
Actually genetics and biology in general render the concept of "race" or "ethnicity" completely superfluous. The reason is simple; people like to screw. we screw like bunnies, and "race" has never actually been a barrier (if it was, there would never have been any need for segregationist laws, for example.) Thus, over the last million-and-whatever years of our species' history, there have probably never been any instances of "pure" races, since invariably everyone is descended from someone who looked rather different from them, somewhere down hte line.
This isn't to argue there's not lots of diversity out there. of course there obviously is. it's just that with a few small exceptions (such as sickle-cell anemia or lactose tolerance) these things are biologically meaningless - and those exceptions are not at all tied with what we regard as "race."
For an example, take president Obama. What race is he?
Biologically he's descended from African, West Asian, and Northern European populations
In the United States, he's "black," just as is anyone else with notably "African" features. They can be as dark as Grace Jones or as light as Beyonce, in the US they're all "black."
In Brazil, he's "moreno," that is, brown. Brazil has a different racial categorization system than the US or Great britain, and it has more to do with one's skin tone than actual ancestry.
However we go to South Africa and he is "colored," a designation that unlike the US or brazilian systems, acknowledges his mixed parentage - as opposed to being "white" or "black" in South African standards.
Go a little north into Chad, and odds are he'd be taken as a white person, or maybe even an Arab.
Now fly him to Japan, and all that falls aside and he is "American."
Which system is right? Biologically speaking, it's largely pointless. So it comes down to culture. Which cultural race determination system do you think is "correct" with regards to barack obama?