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Things are getting interesting in Mexico.

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posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 12:17 PM
Seems the Mexican drug cartels are at war over casinos in Mexico. The drug cartels use them to laundry thier money from the drug trade. Casino Royale was attacked and 53 people were killed.

So the former President Vicente Fox makes a statment.

Given the levels of extreme violence that Mexico is experiencing, former President Vicente Fox proposes the creation of a liaison group of international experts to mediate a truce with organized crime, and the creation of an amnesty law.

So I wonder whos paying this guy? He wants to be friends with drug cartels and allow them amnesty when there has been over 40,000 people killed in the drug wars late 2006.

But Mexican President Calderon is no better he still blames the US for the drug wars.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon declared three days of mourning Friday for the 52 victims of a casino fire set by presumed drug traffickers, branding the attackers "true terrorists" and ordering authorities to offer a $2.4 million reward for their capture.

Calderon also once again lashed out at the United States, saying it is not doing enough to reduce the country's high demand for illicit drugs or to stop the illegal trafficking of U.S. weapons into Mexico

Calderon knows what this new casino wars are about.

Buried in President Calderon's speech on a Monterrey arson attack which left more than 50 dead was the key to why it happened: the rise of illegal gambling establishments in Mexico under his watch, and the emerging battle in the underworld for control of these money-laundering havens.

In the middle of the afternoon on August 25 a group of armed men entered the Casino Royale in Monterrey, north Mexico. They poured gasoline around the building and set it alight, killing at least 52 people.

President Felipe Calderon rushed to condemn the killings, spending most of a 20-minute speech admonishing the "terrorists" for their barbarity and the United States for its consumption of illegal drugs, before hastily adding a single phrase which cuts to the heart of the matter -- the struggle for control of illegal gambling houses.

So he decides to go "After Fatal Casino Attack, Mexican Officials Focus on Organized Crime’s Link"

So what is this war on organized crime Calderon plans on doing? He uses the Mexican military to raid casinos and take slot machines and also check if the casinos have paid thier taxes?

Hundreds of soldiers and federal agents are raiding casinos in this northern city, authorities said Saturday, two days after an arson attack on a gambling house killed 52 people and stunned a country that had become numb to massacres and beheadings.

Security forces had so far confiscated about 1,500 slot machines at 11 casinos in Monterrey and its surroundings and arrested three people, Mexico's tax agency said. It said the continuing operation was meant to verify whether casinos had paid taxes or introduced slot machines illegally.

But the US seems to be doing more than Mexico.

The Obama administration has expanded its role in Mexico’s fight against organized crime by allowing the Mexican police to stage cross-border drug raids from inside the United States, according to senior administration and military officials.

Mexican commandos have discreetly traveled to the United States, assembled at designated areas and dispatched helicopter missions back across the border aimed at suspected drug traffickers. The Drug Enforcement Administration provides logistical support on the American side of the border, officials said, arranging staging areas and sharing intelligence that helps guide Mexico’s decisions about targets and tactics.

Officials said these so-called boomerang operations were intended to evade the surveillance — and corrupting influences — of the criminal organizations that closely monitor the movements of security forces inside Mexico. And they said the efforts were meant to provide settings with tight security for American and Mexican law enforcement officers to collaborate in their pursuit of criminals who operate on both sides of the border.

Heres a writer who is supporting former President Vicente Fox on his choice of amnesty.

"They should decriminalize drugs and get help from the Israeli, French or German police forces who have proven effective in combating crime," he said.

The 82 year old Mexican writer, and social and political activist, acknowledged that he was stunned by the horrific "narco" attack at the Casino Royale in Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, that killed 53 people.

"Unless steps are taken to legalize drugs in coordination with the United States, which is the biggest drug market, and unless more effective internal police actions are forthcoming, the drug cartels will defeat the Mexican Army and the country's unarmed society," argued Fuentes.

The writer, along with former presidents of Mexico, Colombia and Brazil, Ernesto Zedillo, Carlos Gaviria and Fernando Cardoso, is part of a group working for a culture without drugs and favors the legalization "in principle, of their consumption."

So when the former president and the president of Mexico are going in two different directions how does the blame belong to the US? Seems you have a former president of Mexico who wants to support drug cartels and allow them
amnesty and make what they are doing legal. While the current president of Mexico wants to only make sure that taxes are being paid? So who exactly is figting the drug war then?

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 12:23 PM
And how about all those people from Iraq that were brought here to the US because they helped our military in some way during the war in Iraq. What have they been up to.

Federal officials said Thursday they've busted a drug trafficking ring involving Mexico's most powerful cartel and members of an Iraqi immigrant community in the U.S. who were caught selling illegal drugs, assault rifles, grenades and homemade explosives.

About 60 people from the Iraqi community were arrested after a six-month investigation carried out by the Drug Enforcement Administration and police in the city of El Cajon, a working-class city east of San Diego.

Many of the suspects are Iraqi Chaldeans - Christians who fled their homeland amid threats from al-Qaida and other extremists. Police say at least some of those arrested are suspected of being affiliated with the Chaldean Organized Crime Syndicate, an Iraqi gang based in Detroit.

Authorities say the suspects were working out of an Iraqi social club in El Cajon and shipping drugs supplied by Mexico's powerful Sinaloa cartel to Detroit, home to the largest Chaldean population in the United States, according to the federal indictment unsealed Thursday. El Cajon has the second largest Chaldean population.

Seems they are doing the same thing they did in Iraq. Just remeber when the CIA looks for a way to sneek into a country they go through the drug trades. They already have a underground system for smuggling. The CIA just changes what the package is to deliver. And when they are brought back to the US because they helped what do you think they will do besides what they did all thier lives?

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 12:28 PM
"Given the levels of extreme violence that Mexico is experiencing, former President Vicente Fox proposes the creation of a liaison group of international experts to mediate a truce with organized crime, and the creation of an amnesty law."

"So I wonder whos paying this guy? He wants to be friends with drug cartels and allow them amnesty when there has been over 40,000 people killed in the drug wars late 2006."

I'm not seeing how you're connecting those two dots.

I'd have to say though that he's on the right track when it comes to enlisting international help. The Isreali's, Gremans, and our own DEA providing logistics are all very good choices IMO. It looks like he's realizing that he's losing the battle on his own, and that he needs help from outside sources.

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 12:28 PM
This story kind of makes you wonder what is going on in Mexico?

“In congressional testimony, William Newell, former ATF special agent in charge of the Phoenix Field Division, testified that the Internal Revenue Service, Drug Enforcement Administration and Immigration and Customs Enforcement were “full partners” in Operation Fast and Furious. Mr. Newell’s list left out the most important player: the CIA. According to a CIA insider, the agency had a strong hand in creating, orchestrating and exploiting Operation Fast and Furious,” report Farago and Nixon.

The program, with its designated cover of tracking where guns went so drug lords who purchased them could later be arrested downstream, was actually a deliberate effort to prevent the Los Zetas drug cartel from staging a successful coup d’etat against the government of Felipe Calderon by arming rival gang Sinaloa, according to the Times writers, a relationship that extended to “(allowing) the Sinaloas to fly a 747 cargo plane packed with coc aine into American airspace – unmolested.”

“The CIA made sure the trade wasn’t one-way. It persuaded the ATF to create Operation Fast and Furious – a “no strings attached” variation of the agency’s previous firearms sting. By design, the ATF operation armed the Mexican government’s preferred cartel on the street level near the American border, where the Zetas are most active,” states the report.

The notion that Fast and Furious was used as a cover through which to arm the the Sinaloa cartel would explain why the feds showed little interest in following up where guns ended up once they left the United States.

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 12:35 PM
Looks like there will be another riot

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 12:37 PM
And this is the part that made me pay more attention to Mexico lately. The US putting Blackwater in Mexico along with U.S. ambassador who just came from Afghanistan war zone.

The Mexican government is acknowledging that U.S. intelligence agents operate in Mexican territory to help combat drug cartels, but refused to discuss a report they have been posted to a base in northern Mexico and have helped in interrogations, wiretaps and running informant networks.

The participation of U.S. agents and the designation of a new U.S. ambassador, Anthony Wayne, whose last posting was Afghanistan, has raised concerns that America may view Mexico as an Afghan-style battleground.

Mexico has already acknowledged it allows U.S. drones to conduct non-piloted surveillance flights over Mexican territory, though it says it “controls” the flights; a Mexican official is present in the drones’ control room.

“In recent months, Washington’s growing military, political, intelligence and police interference has been documented in many ways, as has the Mexican government’s acceptance of it,” the newspaper La Jornada wrote in an editorial Monday.

The New York Times reported over the weekend that CIA agents and former U.S. military personnel are working at a Mexican military base, and that officials have weighed the possibility of sending private military contractors. The use of such contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan was marred by scandals.

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 12:39 PM
Star and Flag

The Elite have used drugs and slaveryas an easy way to make money for years. Think China's Opium War a hundred years ago which was fought by China to keep drugs OUT of China!

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 12:54 PM
reply to post by JBA2848

The US is "blamed" because we are the major consumer of this product. Plus we are giving them weapons with no strings attached.
Its not a fight against drugs, its a fight for power. Drugs just happen to be the tool they are using to get that power.

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 01:09 PM
So much mis-information these's getting rather PATHETIC! People can't even make the right decision...regarding their own, why don't you work that problem out first...then, stick your nose in someone else's back yard. Clean up your OWN communities before you try to clean up someone else's.

Drugs is BIG business...and EVERYONE wants a piece of that action. Grow your own marijuana! Oops...forgot..can't do that...cuz then you'll be a 'suspected drug lord'. Pfft! WE ARE PATHETIC!!!! And you can put THAT in your pipe...and smoke it. Dont talk about the 'drug war', all up in your room...blazin' away! If they ALLOWED us to grow, that which is NATURAL....we wouldn't need to go to the streets, to get our NATURAL HIGH!

Let me also clue some of you to what is going on. All these 'imaginary wars' aren't to solve the problem, it's to CAUSE the problem:

War on Drugs = more drugs
War on Poverty = more poverty
War on Terror = more terror

See how that works??? None of their 'wars' have HELPED matters, they've just made them worse! If people want to get high...and screw up their lives......LET THEM! As long as they don't come to my house, lookin' for a way to get their next fix....i could care LESS; and neither should you!

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 01:23 PM
There must be good a reason why our government funds them billions of dollars every year by making harmless plants illegal right? I'm sure they have some sort of explanation why they allow these cartels to kill 100x more people than these "evil" "ruthless" dictators. They wouldn't just allow them to devastate the Mexican economy, corrupt their government, and force people to flee to the U.S., which screws over our economy right?....right?

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 01:25 PM
I see a major problem coming in the near future for the US. And that is turning Mexico into a war zone that involves the US and its private contractors in Mexico. I guess they want a war that is capable of coming to the streets of the US. The drug cartels already have smuggling routes all over the US and the guns are already here in the drug cartels hands. When the fighting starts it will not just be on the Mexican side of the border but in the streets of the US. And if you want to see what that looks like you can look at some of the photos.

Warning gruesome pictures.

The war in Iraq, Afgahnistan and the War on Terror has never really had a chance of coming to the streets of the US in the way that the war on Drug Cartels in Mexico does.
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posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 01:25 PM
It's a repeat of the tragedies of the Prohibition Era (wiki). History repeats itself.

However when there are more people alive, when history repeats it tends to become more intense and wide-scale.

I agree with the poster above, the wars on terror, poverty, and drugs have failed miserably. Probably before they were even implemented, due to the fact it's a form of double-speak and serves to hide the true purpose of those social programs in the first place.

These wars are designed for social engineering the population to become more accustomed to giving up our rights (drug raids on homes, terrorist attacks everywhere, and justification to increase taxes).

It's a ruse, don't fall for it. They are just smooth talkers trying to con all of us.

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 01:30 PM
53 dead in a Casino bombing is pretty hard core though.

In fact, it doesn't even seem to have much reasoning from a drug cartels point of view. Something of this scale with this many body bags just isn't logical business wise even if they were trying to scare or punish the Casino or something.

What this appears much more like at this point, is a professional operation.

If I were an investigator, I would be looking into the possibility that some type of intelligence agency was involved in some respect. Who knows from where or why...

But I could see motive for the Mexican govt or it's collaborators to do it as a false flag in order to step up the war and increase the assault on civil liberties against the people of Mexico.

Things are only going to get worse, way worse. And there is a TON of $$$$ to make out of this.

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 01:40 PM
Acapulco is also seeing the same drug cartels fighting in the streets. But there it seems some body is playing vigilante. Leaving signs that say things like "This will happen to all the thieves and kidnappers. Sincerely, The New Administration" "This will happen to all robbers, kidnappers and traitors. Sincerely, The New Administration"

Placards left at the scene of the executions today and at several sites during the weekend were signed by a previously unheard of group calling itself "La Nueva Empresa" (the new company) or "La Nueva Administracion" (the new administration).

Warning gruesome pictures.

Seems they may already have some private military contractors at work there.

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 01:54 PM
Weren't the men 'masked'? If do you KNOW they were from the drug cartels? Innocent, unsuspecting lives were lost, i understand that...but how can 1 say: "it was the drug cartels that did it"? Isn't that PURE speculation??? I DO BELIEVE the cartels work TOGETHER...for such a LARGE operation. I also believe that the CIA is playing both sides of the cartels. Has anyone ever noticed that the lights on a cop car are 'red and blue'....just like the 'crips and bloods'? Nothing is by coincidence.

posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 02:12 PM
reply to post by crimvelvet

Just an observation, but i highly doubt the "elite" are using drug trade to make money. Why would they need to make more money? It isn't about money.

posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 12:40 AM
reply to post by onequestion

Are you nuts.....Its all about money.
Money is power. plain and simple.
Those who have it have to have more........its the ultimate drug through which comes every pleasure....both legal and illegal, moral, and immoral.
M_O_N_E_Y_ ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
We kill for it, sweat for it, die for it.

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