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If you ever wondered what Lucifer looks like well just wait a little longer. The world is about to see.
Originally posted by gortex
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post by JesusLives
If you ever wondered what Lucifer looks like well just wait a little longer. The world is about to see.
Go on ...give us a clue .
This whole Aliens are demons trend on this board is really starting to get boring
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First off, we’ll look at why Lucifer and Jesus are one and the same. Now, we’re not talking about Satan; in the Old Testament he was a) irrelevant and b) several different characters; a sort of unfulfilled idea in the authors’ minds.
In the New Testament he takes on a whole new identity, sort of like a minor TV series character who gets reinvented for the movie version. In the NT he’s Ahriman, he’s Iblis, he’s Der Teufel, and in Revelation we meet him in all his psychedelic technicolor glory – we’re not interested in him in this article; he has his job to do but as he’s not the same character as Lucifer, he’s irrelevant.
Lucifer, on the other hand, is what we’re looking at. He makes his first (and only) appearance in the Old Testament in Isaiah 14:12: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! (KJV)
But that’s not really Lucifer – that’s where the Hebrew heilel ben Shachar is used to describe King Nebuchadnezzar, basically by calling him a peacock. It is only when this verse was translated into the Latin: quomodo cecidisti de caelo lucifer qui mane oriebaris corruisti in terram qui vulnerabas gentes (from the Vulgate c.400CE) does ‘O shining one, son of the dawn!’ become the Latin term ‘Lucifer’.
So who – or what – exactly is Lucifer, and how can it possibly be the same as Jesus? In strictly scriptural terms, Jesus answers that question himself in 2 Peter 1:19: et habemus firmiorem propheticum sermonem cui bene facitis adtendentes quasi lucernae lucenti in caliginoso loco donec dies inlucescat et lucifer oriatur in cordibus vestries
However, the English King James Version omitted that little tidbit, making it instead:
We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts.
The day star, the morning star – referred to in the Latin by both ‘lucifer’ and ‘stella matutina’, as seen in Revelation 2:27-28 sicut et ego accepi a Patre meo et dabo illi stellam matutinam
Originally posted by gortex
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post by JesusLives
If you ever wondered what Lucifer looks like well just wait a little longer. The world is about to see.
Go on ...give us a clue .
This whole Aliens are demons trend on this board is really starting to get boring
Originally posted by JesusLives
If you ever wondered what Lucifer looks like well just wait a little longer. The world is about to see.