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UFO's captured over New York Last night 8-26(Identified- Chinese Lanterns)

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posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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So.... Who officially identified them as Chinese Lanterns?




posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by Zeer0
reply to post by Tralfamador
 


But no one said that these things were Proof of Extraterrestrial Visitation. But if thats how you perceived it than thats you.

If anyone was trolling it was you. But theres no need to argue, the video has been Bunked so im moving one.

Cheers



I was expecting a pedantic reply, so I will counter you with one as well. Hint: I never said proof. I said believers ASSUME.

The word "assume" directly contradicts what you said about me perceiving them as presenting the lights as proof of E.T. visitation.

Definition of Assume from dictionary.com: >Suppose to be the case, without proof: "afraid of what people are going to assume"; "reasonable to assume that such changes have social effects".<

See that part about WITHOUT PROOF? Yeah...



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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Page 15, 114 flags and on the front page of ATS.
ATSers, we need to debate serious cases, if you want to keep credible.
These lights are for me clearly "Chinese Lanterns" as they are for most of us.

We shouldn't be taking floating lights in the sky very serious at all. I know ...... It is possible Aliens
ships could show up at night and float about randomly over densely populated cities, but somehow i doubt thats
the way it will go down.

If we are not posting objects worthy of serious debate, then the question must be asked if it is worth posting at all.

Just my two cents.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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What irks me is there is PLENTY of proof out there in favor for the existence of E.T. So much so that it has been said many times....the amount of this proof is greater than the amount of proof that it takes to convict someone of Murder!

People would rather not know. Split Infinity



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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One question I pose to everyone. How strong was the wind from Irene at the time of this video in NY? If the wind was rather strong, I find it hard to believe the Chinese lanterns would just be floating along? Chinese lanterns seems plausible. I just want an account of the winds at the time of the video?



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by mugger
One question I pose to everyone. How strong was the wind from Irene at the time of this video in NY? If the wind was rather strong, I find it hard to believe the Chinese lanterns would just be floating along? Chinese lanterns seems plausible. I just want an account of the winds at the time of the video?


Winds at ground level were slight but at altitude....they were at least 15 mph. It rained quite a bit. Even still....the way these things move....and hold specific position....seems unconsistant with a lanturn.

Still it is just a video....and is of little use. Split Infinity



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by harriethedgehog
reply to post by gazzachel
 


They are Chinese Lanterns! As an amateur astronomer I frequently get to debunk UFO sightings. People please engage critical thinking mode and search first for a rational explanation, the most likely and simplest is usually true.


And me as an "amateur astronomer" can say that lights in the sky from a shaky camera is not 100% conclusive evidence enough to debunk anything. I understand going through logical explanations first, but most debunking seems to assume it is easily explainable, then that "theory" becomes a fact.

Did I read correct on page 13 somewhere that the "identified" Chinese Lantern video was from York, not New York?



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by ka119
So.... Who officially identified them as Chinese Lanterns?

The critical thinkers who watched the OP video and deduced from the evidence provided that the "objects" look and act just like the myriad of video's of lanterns that have been posted here before .
Lanterns are common , real UFO's aren't .



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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This is a very good point you made, Strong Winds and Lots of Rain, yet still

These so called Lanterns keep on going?

Another point is that they seemed to stand fairly still within the same area
for a bit, they didn't just keep on drifting around if the winds were strong they
would have kept on moving.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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post by awareness10
This is a very good point you made, Strong Winds and Lots of Rain, yet still These so called Lanterns keep on going?

Are we watching the same video ?
I see no rain nor evidence of strong winds in the video in the OP , at one point you see a small tree in shot with no sign of movement , at another point you see what appears to me to be a dry street , no sign of rain .



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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Found some footage of lanterns being released in bad weather conditions like that of New York on the 26th (even though I failed to notice this rough weather in the original and other videos of these lights.) You can see them floating along like any other chinese lantern usually does on a good day.

edit on 28-8-2011 by Arrrr because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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This was in Taiwan. Its common there.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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Thank you for your input, but the location really doesn't have much to do with the lanterns flying in the rain.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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HOW IS THIS BEING WRITTEN OFF AS LANTERNS?? # the OP's original video there are SEVERAL videos, and in my last post I linked to one of them that show different angles by different people compiled. In these videos some of the lights appear out of thin air. Did these lanterns reignite in mid air? They go from being 3 objects into several.



I would think that chinese lanterns would be all grouped together and coming from the same area, you would clearly be able to see where they are coming from, and how many are coming. They wouldn't just appear.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:27 PM
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This is why they are being written off as lanterns.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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10....and that definitely describes your picture...LOL! I know a bit about wind effect on things like Military flares...either generated by a plane or shot from a gun...or launch tube. I also know a bit about how wind and increases in wind due to altitude...have an effect on weather ballons or recon ballons.

The higher up a balloon or anything is....the greater the wind effect. It could be dead calm at the surface and at even a few hundred feet....never mind a thousand or so....wind effect is strong. If these were lanturns...say approx.14 to 20 inches in diameter...then judging by the video...they would be at least 4 to 500 ft up.

Flares released by a warplane durring manuevers....usually are released at least several thousand feet up to avoid starting a fire. I believe minimum altitude for release is 5 thousand ft.

Split Infinity



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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Well that would appear to seal the deal

There is a lesson to be learned in this thread



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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ps....10...I hope you are not a guy because I would be....SOOOO....disapointed. Split Infinity



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by ka119
So.... Who officially identified them as Chinese Lanterns?


A random youtube comment was used as the source(Commenting that they had released the lanterns themselves for the death of a relative), and then somebody dug a little deeper and found an article that only confirms the death, but nothing else.

I guess it doesn't take much to put a halt on any real discussion these days, just a random article in a paper that has nothing to do with the lights at all aside from a youtube comment.



posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 05:49 PM
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Correct you are, but you missed the most important part! A more proactive member contacted the Youtube user and made sure the story was straight, and well, it all seems to be true.

Originally posted by Zeer0
Well it turns out that her story checks out so this one is Bunked. Mods you know what to do.



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