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posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 02:13 PM
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The thing you seem to be forgetting though is that we have never treated animals like we do now. Battery hens, high density farming, genetic modification, radically altered fodder (read unnatural), growth hormones, antibiotics and god knows what else. If you contribute to threads such as these, expect to have your argument shortcomings pointed out.

You are not shining light, you are being one sided. I want my meat and I don't care how I get it. That is what you are in effect saying and many now apparently, judging from many of the comments on this thread anyway, don't like that anymore.

I have eaten meat for the first 30 odd years of my life. I like meat, I just don't like the production methods and therefore erfuse to eat it. To each his own though.




posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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Just thought I would show you a quick vid of my pet rooster Bach....please disregard the annoying baby talk

I just wanted to show that he really does respond to me (raises his wings when he sees me) and when I ask him to flap his wings for me, he does it. They aren't "stupid animals) He was an abandoned rooster who showed up at my house, so I adopted him....the people who owned him moved and just left him to fend for himself. No wisecracks about his drumsticks

Also excuse my carport, my friends son was painting the house, AND the carport





posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 04:28 PM
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Wow! What a quiet and relaxed rooster. Thanks for sharing. He is nothing like what we see on tv, for example but then I guess his life with you is a lot different to what most of them have. The only chickens I ever really had contact with many years ago would run like mad if you tried to get anywhere near them (it wasn't a chicken farm and they had free run of the whole farm but every once in a while one would be turned into dinner. I never saw that part though thankfully.). I guess they weren't stupid...

I had to smile a sad smile when a previous poster said he saw one killed as a young child, watched it run round headless in sheer horror and then was forced to eat it. The stuff of nightmares, I would imagine. A similar thing happened to my ex-partner and that was a part of what turned her vegetarian at a very young age. Everytime her parents tried to feed her meat she stubbornly refused. When I moved in with her I was still carnivore and she cooked my meat dinner even though she hated doing it. After a year or two I turned veggy just because it was easier but I cannot do without those meat replacement products. After that I always did the cooking as her cooking didn't impress me much but that's a whole other story.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by IlluminatusOculus33
 


The thing you seem to be forgetting though is that we have never treated animals like we do now. Battery hens, high density farming, genetic modification, radically altered fodder (read unnatural), growth hormones, antibiotics and god knows what else. If you contribute to threads such as these, expect to have your argument shortcomings pointed out.

You are not shining light, you are being one sided. I want my meat and I don't care how I get it. That is what you are in effect saying and many now apparently, judging from many of the comments on this thread anyway, don't like that anymore.

I have eaten meat for the first 30 odd years of my life. I like meat, I just don't like the production methods and therefore erfuse to eat it. To each his own though.


You're right I don't care how I get my meat products. Why should it matter how the animals are treated. You probably want them to run around in a bath house and get massages and served the finest fodder money can buy before they get their head lopped off. Get real. Factory farming has reduced the cost of meat products so it's more affordable to a wider range of people.

I don't care animals are ground up into paste to make hot dogs or whatever. That's what they was born for to be made into FOOD.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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Never play with your food.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by IlluminatusOculus33
You're right I don't care how I get my meat products.
Don't you care about the quality of your meat products either?



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 05:20 PM
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It's edible so the problem is where exactly?



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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Yes, he is VERY relaxed....sometimes he will jump up on the bench out side and just sit next to me if I start talking to him.The funny thing is, he has only been here for a few months, and at first, he was skittish, but he finally realized I wouldn't hurt him, and now he trusts me completely. He eats out of my hand. When I get back from the grocery store, he jumps in the trunk and tries to get in the car when I leave. I just say "Get down Bach" and jumps right back out! It surprised me how he responds to me. My theory is, that he was lonely, because they abandoned him (and took his hens but not him!) Chickens are "flock" animals, and he was all alone. I noticed he would spend hours standing in front of the sliding glass door staring at it. Then I realized he was looking at his own reflection. So, I think he was lonely because he didn't have any other chickens to be with....and I filled the void I guess
BTW...I'm the one who saw the chicken killed and it ran around without a head...
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posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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Cute....
He's not a food animal....he's a pet and I do love him. I'm not bashing people for eating meat. I do sometimes.... but I'm just saying after being around him, I have come to realize they are creatures with feelings too. I used to think chickens were dumb...they aren't, and he does have a personality and responds to affection.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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Hmmm...well, that's just sad. They weren't BORN for food. We chose to make them food. I don't have anything against that, but they should be treated humanely.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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Don't you prefer some things to others? Some special dish that you like more than the others? If you do that means that you have some preferences, and probably because you think one of those tastes better than the rest.

That's the same thing I'm talking about, if I can choose between tasteless and tasty meat, I prefer the tasty meat.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 05:44 PM
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The problem is that if you think causing living creatures who feel pain just as you do is ok...there is something wrong with that. The way they feel pain is the same as if someone threw you into a grinder alive. I'll ask you....what is wrong with treating them humanely?
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posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 06:01 PM
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posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by StealthyKat
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The problem is that if you think causing living creatures who feel pain just as you do is ok...there is something wrong with that. The way they feel pain is the same as if someone threw you into a grinder alive. I'll ask you....what is wrong with treating them humanely?
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Well they wouldn't feel pain for very long if they were thrown into a grinder. It would be a pretty quick death.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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OK....not gonna fall for it...you are obviously trying to flame...




posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 06:13 PM
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How is it flaming? A grinder would end a chickens life pretty quick. What do you want them to do hook it up to a little table and give it sleeping medication before grinding it up?



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 06:17 PM
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posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 06:19 PM
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I did click on your first link, but judging by its tone and content I didn't bother with your video. I hope you find a healthy channel for all that anger. It may consume you one day



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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I would like them to be treated well because they feel pain just as we do....this is my last response to you.





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