reply to post by ArMaP
Well, to be honest, the Bible can be a "mixed bag" at best, and at worst its a bunch of riddles dressed up as...I dunno. Whatever message it was
meant to give has long been perverted. The Vatican has seen to that.
But, I do know this about the Bible now, it is part farmers almanac, part spirituality and much confusion added to hide its true meaning from the
masses. If the truth was apparent, we would all be better people. Replace Son with Sun and you are a good way there...but back on topic.
You mention food. Did you know that the main reason for Mad Cow Disease is that they feed the processed remains of cows to cows in their feed. Those
pellet thingies. The same is true for sheep, chickens and possibly pigs too. It is not done because a cow normally eats another cow, but when
processed with other materials into those nasty cheap pellets, they save money on what a cow normally would eat. So, a small infection rapidly becomes
a huge uncontrollable infestation which no one on earth can stop. So we burn 4 million animals on remote hillsides (Britain). In Holland (where I now
live, I am English though) the governement decided to cull thousands and thousands of uninfected animals as "a precaution". Even people (not farms,
just regular you's and me's) who had a pet pig, goat, chicken, etc...at home were visited by the ministry of agriculture and had their animals
killed without being tested. If you rsisted, they came back with police (who are all armed here). And you think we have a voice that is heard?
They asked the people of Holland if they wanted Europe, in a national reforendum. The people said no, the politicians ignored it. The same thing
happened in France. Peeps said no, gov said "We don't care".
My point is that politics is a failed system in much if not all of the western world. Vote for one side of a bad coin, its still a bad coin. I could
explain it for hours but it all comes down to one simple fact, the vote means nothing and thats why I don't vote. (I may not vote in Holland, only
England, I see no point so don't waste time or paper on it). All Europe has given us is a single economy and a kind of Federal System that usurps
People matter nothing in this world anymore, we are only good for being experimented on (without our knowledge) and for paying exorbitant and largely
unnecessary taxes, much of which the large corporations manage to avoid due to tax tricks, offshore companies and all the rest of the nasty quagmire
Regarding the Bible quote: (King James version)
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of
a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
I see no mention of any animal. In fact, there is a religion called Jainism.
Jain Religion (play /ˈdʒeɪnɪzəm/' Hindi: जैन धर्म Jaina dharma, Tamil: சமணம் Camaṇam) is an Indian religion that
prescribes a path of non-violence towards all living beings. Its philosophy and practice emphasize the necessity of self-effort to move the soul
towards divine consciousness and liberation. Any soul that has conquered its own inner enemies and achieved the state of supreme being is called Jina
"Conqueror, Victor". Jainism is also referred to as Shramana "self-reliant" Dharma or the religion of Nirgrantha "those without ties" by ancient
One of their beliefs is:
Jains are strict vegetarians. They avoid eating root vegetables in general, as cutting root from a plant kills it unlike other parts of the plant
(leaf, fruit, seed, etc.).
Put differently, they will not eat a plant that needs to be killed. Some may say its taking it too far, but I sometimes wonder. ;-) What do they know
that we don't?
My numbers may not be exact, I got the statistic from a youtube vid but Australia's landmass is 7,617,930 km2. (Wikipedia) Thats 7 billion square
kilometres plus. If I'm wrong, its not by much. The fact that it is not all hospitable land doesn't really matter. We can overcome most problems
given the right resources and not spending trillions on war and world domination. Or pointless/secretive space programmes.
Thank you for the friendly and wholesome discussion.