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Originally posted by chancemusky
This lil guy still going? Jeeze, figured he woulda stopped by now.
Really dude, you one of the most arrogant people Ive seen on here, and ive seen quite a few.
Originally posted by chancemusky
reply to post by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
I like how you assume Im christian. Guess again, buddo. You're an arrogant pr#k who thinks they know everything, and only idiots agree with them. Ive seen fundies with more sense than you.
Now, I bid you, adieu.
Originally posted by themegaoverlord
reply to post by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
No, you are actually expressing your beliefs out in the forums when in actuality you have no proof whatsoever of you saying he is part of the Family Tree of Deception. Look, can you even look at the aspects of JFK? He IS an honest, willful, and fair president. He doesn't mess around when it comes to Politics, the Economy, and everything that keeps this Government from falling on its knees. And besides, if he REALLY was part of the Deception Family. Why did you even think he got Assassinated and the government made a false story to consider the assassination case closed, when in actuality, it brings more questions than answers on the table? Because some jerk decided to do so, no, because he knew something all of us Americans DIDN'T! So that was why he was about to run a Speech in the town of where he got assassinated in. Because he was about to reveal something us Americans that we didn't know. And if you were back in that time, and if he didn't get assassinated, and whatever he revealed was extremely important to the Civilians, then you would be declaring this man as a true president. You know why, because he was concerned about the Welfare and safety of his Citizens. Not just to rule over one another so they can grab cash fast. Like Jr. Bush did! You see, I am not an Idiot like you think I am. I know what goes around here like it was yesterday. I ain't bragging, I am just one of the sane people here just almost like everyone else. So please. don't declare me as an Idiot when you are the one who doesn't bring proof to the table.
Originally posted by themegaoverlord
Now, we should stop arguing with each other right now. Because for one thing, the moderator is going to come here and put a can of whoop-arse on all of us and shut this thread down. And besides, this OP doesn't even deserve to be argued with. Leave him be and leave him to his own delusion.
Only a weak mind would believe in a deity such as Jesus, and heaven and hell, those people are selfish, and wait for their own rewards, in a non existent place "heaven", whilst we here on earth, in the only reality, suffer, because of this blindness,
Blessed are those who suffer persecution for living righteously, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when men revile you, and persecute you, and say all manner of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice, and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for likewise they persecuted the prophets who were before you. (Matthew 5:10-12)
India (MNN) ― This week, thousands of Christians marked the third anniversary of the mass violence in Orissa State, India.
During the pogrom, Hindu extremists brutally murdered at least 100 Christians, raped and pillaged 300 houses of worship and burned 5,000 homes. The riots also led to the displacement of over 56,000 Christians.
Hindu nationalists named the anniversary of the attacks (which began August 23, 2008) as the day of "Protection of Religion." They handed out leaflets that reminded Hindus that their faith is under attack by Christians. Stravers says the plan to eliminate Christians is not surprising. "Over the last year, persecution has probably worsened from what it was just a couple of years ago all over the country. We feel that it's a confirmation of all the reports that we hear from all over India of people coming to Christ."
Persecution of Christians as a consequence of professing their faith can be traced both historically and in the current era. Early Christians were persecuted for their faith, at the hands of both Jews from whose religion Christianity arose, and the Roman Empire which controlled much of the land early Christianity was distributed across. This continued from the 1st century until the early 4th, when the religion was legalized by Constantine I. Michael Gaddis wrote:
The Christian experience of violence during the pagan persecutions shaped the ideologies and practices that drove further religious conflicts over the course of the fourth and fifth centuries... The formative experience of martyrdom and persecution determined the ways in which later Christians would both use and experience violence under the Christian empire. Discourses of martyrdom and persecution formed the symbolic language through which Christians represented, justified, or denounced the use of violence."[1]
Currently (as of 2010), as estimated by the Christian missionary organisation Open Doors UK, an estimated 100 million Christians face persecution, particularly in North Korea, Iran and Saudi Arabia.[2] A recent study, cited by the Vatican, reported that 75 out of every 100 people killed due to religious hatred are Christian.[3][4]
By the mid-2nd century, mobs could be found willing to throw stones at Christians, and they might be mobilized by rival sects. The Persecution in Lyon was preceded by mob violence, including assaults, robberies and stonings (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History 5.1.7).
The first documentable Empire-wide persecution took place under Maximinus Thrax, though only the clergy were sought out. It was not until Decius during the mid-century that a persecution of Christian laity across the Empire took place. Christian sources aver that a decree was issued requiring public sacrifice, a formality equivalent to a testimonial of allegiance to the Emperor and the established order. Decius authorized roving commissions visiting the cities and villages to supervise the execution of the sacrifices and to deliver written certificates to all citizens who performed them. Christians were often given opportunities to avoid further punishment by publicly offering sacrifices or burning incense to Roman gods, and were accused by the Romans of impiety when they refused. Refusal was punished by arrest, imprisonment, torture, and executions. Christians fled to safe havens in the countryside and some purchased their certificates, called libelli. Several councils held at Carthage debated the extent to which the community should accept these lapsed Christians.
Originally posted by pro-all
Without replying to anyone in particular, I want to point out that people who disbelieve in the op only do so because it doesnt fit into their little mindset or they are just being disinfo agents. This topic raises another point about what people believe about creation or evolution. Those who are saying there is no non-human intervention on the affairs of the earth are simply queuing behind evolution, the theory that universe happened by chance.
If however you believe in creationism or extraterestrials seeding the earth, why is it unreasonable to believe that they still control the earth? The logical outcome here is that whatever gave birth to the earth did not leave the running of the earth to unpredictable humans. If it were so by now some crazy militocrat must have pulled a trigger on nuclear weapons to destroy the world.
That being said, if we accept that politics was started by a group that was most likely a secret society and never had the interest of the common man at heart, why do people find it difficult to believe that an outsider would never be allowed to take center stage?
Something worth mentioning is the similarity between the queen and RP. The old lady for some strange reasons refused to abdicate the throne for her son who is fast 70. And Ron Paul? Why can't this man groom his son, Rand to vie for the presidency and sit back and smoke his tobacco?He could accomplish all his desires by pulling the strings behind his son. At 75, subjecting oneself to political rigors is a self inflicted punishment. Sometimes I do wonder why politicians never give up. A sad case is Hilary Clinton whose husband was 2-time president, herself 2-term NY senator and now SoS after failing at the attempt to be POTUS. There is something very scary about politics.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
Only a weak mind would believe in a deity such as Jesus, and heaven and hell, those people are selfish, and wait for their own rewards, in a non existent place "heaven", whilst we here on earth, in the only reality, suffer, because of this blindness,
Blessed are those who suffer persecution for living righteously, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when men revile you, and persecute you, and say all manner of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice, and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for likewise they persecuted the prophets who were before you. (Matthew 5:10-12)
Christians have suffered considerably at the hands of political and religious people. When the Bolsheviks came to power in Russia, the communists made every effort to eliminate the Christian church there. Apparently China also persecutes Christians.
www.thenewamerican.com...
Here are stories worldwide of Christian persecution
www.christianpersecution.info...
And how come this isn't platered all over CNN ?
India (MNN) ― This week, thousands of Christians marked the third anniversary of the mass violence in Orissa State, India.
During the pogrom, Hindu extremists brutally murdered at least 100 Christians, raped and pillaged 300 houses of worship and burned 5,000 homes. The riots also led to the displacement of over 56,000 Christians.
Hindu nationalists named the anniversary of the attacks (which began August 23, 2008) as the day of "Protection of Religion." They handed out leaflets that reminded Hindus that their faith is under attack by Christians. Stravers says the plan to eliminate Christians is not surprising. "Over the last year, persecution has probably worsened from what it was just a couple of years ago all over the country. We feel that it's a confirmation of all the reports that we hear from all over India of people coming to Christ."
persecutionblog.com...
Here is what even wiki hs to say about historical persecution of Christians
Persecution of Christians as a consequence of professing their faith can be traced both historically and in the current era. Early Christians were persecuted for their faith, at the hands of both Jews from whose religion Christianity arose, and the Roman Empire which controlled much of the land early Christianity was distributed across. This continued from the 1st century until the early 4th, when the religion was legalized by Constantine I. Michael Gaddis wrote:
The Christian experience of violence during the pagan persecutions shaped the ideologies and practices that drove further religious conflicts over the course of the fourth and fifth centuries... The formative experience of martyrdom and persecution determined the ways in which later Christians would both use and experience violence under the Christian empire. Discourses of martyrdom and persecution formed the symbolic language through which Christians represented, justified, or denounced the use of violence."[1]
Currently (as of 2010), as estimated by the Christian missionary organisation Open Doors UK, an estimated 100 million Christians face persecution, particularly in North Korea, Iran and Saudi Arabia.[2] A recent study, cited by the Vatican, reported that 75 out of every 100 people killed due to religious hatred are Christian.[3][4]
By the mid-2nd century, mobs could be found willing to throw stones at Christians, and they might be mobilized by rival sects. The Persecution in Lyon was preceded by mob violence, including assaults, robberies and stonings (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History 5.1.7).
The first documentable Empire-wide persecution took place under Maximinus Thrax, though only the clergy were sought out. It was not until Decius during the mid-century that a persecution of Christian laity across the Empire took place. Christian sources aver that a decree was issued requiring public sacrifice, a formality equivalent to a testimonial of allegiance to the Emperor and the established order. Decius authorized roving commissions visiting the cities and villages to supervise the execution of the sacrifices and to deliver written certificates to all citizens who performed them. Christians were often given opportunities to avoid further punishment by publicly offering sacrifices or burning incense to Roman gods, and were accused by the Romans of impiety when they refused. Refusal was punished by arrest, imprisonment, torture, and executions. Christians fled to safe havens in the countryside and some purchased their certificates, called libelli. Several councils held at Carthage debated the extent to which the community should accept these lapsed Christians.
So, you see, one can gain a different perspective from real history.
edit on 29-8-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
I have a few theories of my own. But you know theres an old saying, the more you learn, the less you know.
Originally posted by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
The only reason im in University, is for the degree to make money, i've learned nothing really, except learn the skills to work for the system, i haven't learned knowledge.
Originally posted by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
Originally posted by chancemusky
reply to post by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
I like how you assume Im christian. Guess again, buddo. You're an arrogant pr#k who thinks they know everything, and only idiots agree with them. Ive seen fundies with more sense than you.
Now, I bid you, adieu.
It's not that i know everything, i never said i do, you are just simply too dumb and thick to know anything.
You've never seen fundies who make more sense, nice fabrication but, fundies make no sense, much like yourself and politicsedit on 29-8-2011 by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien because: (no reason given)
If anything, he got killed because it was just part of a plan, if people knew JFK was about to spill the truth, but he got shot, people would have faith in the system, they would think, that hey, maybe there is hope for another JFK.
But, those people don't see things with logic, or common sense, what if, JFK dying was PART of the plan.
It's not about knowing, it's about refusing to acknowledge a truth, and take comfort in your own pre-conceived ideals
Refusing to believe there is another motive behind.
Here's the thing, every post so far, who has tried to refute the facts i've posted has either been.
"Yuh huh well look ma dis here america hater thinkg mericuh sux cuz he hates ron paul, he crazy he think ron paul is illuminati"
You have no concept of logic and common sense.
You being related to royalty means nothing other than feeding your own ego,when there's a catastrophe do you get benefits over us common folk? does it increase your I,Q.
Your cognitive, thinkng?
If anything, it would reduce it due to you being an inbred redneck.
I'm honestly shocked and in awe at the amount of gullibility and ignorance, on a conspiracy site.
And age has nothing to do this
i know more about the world than you ever will and biology considering i am an undergrad in biomedical sciences.
The entire time RP was talking, i was reading his body language, it felt fake to me.
He was just playing you, ive seen a lot of this guys talks and speeches, ive read his body language every time, and it was fake every time.
Only a weak mind would believe in a deity such as Jesus, and heaven and hell, those people are selfish, and wait for their own rewards, in a non existent place "heaven", whilst we here on earth, in the only reality, suffer, because of this blindness, the same blind, who follow politics, who keep this system alive, who will vote for Ron Paul, and will continue the cycle, those same people, ruin life for themselves, and many others in-directly, because of some fantasy, that when they die, they will live in eternal bliss, that is a dangerous way of thinking, very dangerous.
It allows people to escape problems on earth, refusing to acknowledge what happens here, and to help, and fix these problems, but instead they will believe in fairytales.
The evidence is in posts all throughout this thread, reading helps, you should try it .