reply to post by SpeachM1litant
So because he targeted leftists it suddently makes it ok? I don't know if that is the message that you are trying to get across but it seems as if
I never said it was ok.
He is actually psychotic, and i consider him just as bad as an Islamic terrorist.
It is not as if your post provides us with anything we don't already know. Muslims commiting terrorist activities in their own countries.
Do you have a problem with history? How do you think these said countries became "Islamic"??? At one time, India was Hindu, but then Islam showed
up. Before Islam entered Persia, it was Zoroastrian, Manichean, etc.
What makes todays Islam fundamentally different from the Islam of the past 1400 years, in which Islam has expanded its borders. Islam is now creeping
into Europe. There are 2 million Muslims in the UK, which is about 4% of the total population. In France and Germany its double that. You dont think
Muslims think it would be best for the entire world to convert to Islam?? Is that not a tenet of their faith???
Its complete idiocy to think they dont pose a threat.
Islam really dosen't pose a threat to the West. It is only once we station our combat battalions in their countries that it does and still then it is
easily overcome. There hasn't been a Islamic terrorist attack in America since 9/11 and in Australia there hasn't been an Islamic terrorist attack
ever. The concept of a clash of civilizations (which you seem to be constantly reffering to) has been ridiculed in the intellectual community. It
really is the calling ground for the anti-intellectual movement. I find it ironic that the things both you and fundementalist Muslims hold close are
Do you actually believe this stuff?? I dont CARE what the intellectual community and its politicking has to say. I HATE this sort of political
correctness, and coercian. It is insane. Even your argument requires you to ignore, ignore ignore, as if the points i make about Islam, and the
frequency of terrorist attacks motivated by wanting to REPLACE WESTERN STYLE GOVERNMENT (and yet their fight isnt against the west) with shari'a law.
Get a clue.
Are you a political student by any chance?? You really do seem very excited about becoming another political shill, and zombie for the system.
Repeating cliches, "international law", etc etc.
Most muslims in the West have come to this country to escape their crappy political systems. You act as if the majority of Muslims are commiting these
terrorist acts and that the majority of Muslims want to stone people and lop off eachother hands.
The crazy thing, is that such a declaration exists in their Quran. Shari'a, actually requires the amputation of hands for theft, and other such
How can Shari'a be modified, if such an admonition is from the book of Gods word, the Quran??? You cannot deviate from a scriptural command without
changing scripture (or simply ignoring it, in which case, how deeply devoted a Muslim are you?)
The population of Egypt alone is 80,000,000 while 1.5 billion Muslims populate the world. You believe the majority a fundementalists, but for the sake
of argument I am going to be conservative an say only 5,000,000 are terrorists. Now we have a population (on Earth) of 6775235700. Now that means that
for every terrorist there are around 1,355 normal people. Now lets just say that every terrorist on average kills only one person. That means they
have together killed 5,000,173 people(which they haven't). Last time I checked the war in Iraq has killed more Muslims then terrorists have killed
people in the last 20 years put together.
These numbers are really useless.
In 1934, when Hitler came to power, people could plainly see that he was a raging antisemite who posed a threat to the Jews. He Made threats, he said
awful things, and German Jews shrugged it off. "Its only political propaganda" they said.
Its a principle of Islamic Jurisprudence that when the Umma (collective muslim community) is "weak", ie, in a state of political subjugation, Jihad
- which means to strive in the way of Allah (and for Allah, especially in this world, at a political level) is conducted at an intellectual, or
psychological level. This is what Islam - mainly through the subversive influence of the Muslim Brotherhood, has been doing the last 30 or so years.
Look up all the different Islamic organizations indicted for funding terrorist organizations. Even innocuously named "holy land foundation" was
indicted in 2007 for channeling funds to Hamas. And CAIR - was an unindicted co -conspirator. CAIR, the council for american-Islamic relations is the
main Islamic lobby group that washington consults when wanting to see what Muslim Americans think about a certain thing. THEY were also funnelling
money to Hamas, but for some absurd technicality were left unindicted.
Theres plenty more examples of this.
Terrorism is a threat, but it dosen't have to be if America were to undertake a more serioud and realistic foreign policy approach. One more like
Bush Snr at least and Ron Paul at best.
Im not justifying the american occupation in Iraq, or Afghanistan. Obviously its for strategic reasons; for oil, and for who knows what else.
Notwithstanding this, what Muslims hate about "western influence", is not primarely our physical presence in their countries, but our
SPIRITUAL-CULTURAL presence. This is why they committ terrorist attacks.
As for Muslims secretly immigrating into Western-Liberal democracies trying to secretely undermine democracy and enact Sharia law. I must say this is
rediculous. For all the Muslims I have met I have never met one that wants Sharia law and to pretend they do in secret is just a rediculous concept.
The majority of americanized Muslims dont want Shari'a law, and i never said they did. However, there is a large number which has avoided
assimilation who maintains an active desire to subvert american culture, and somewhere down the road, "hopefully" in their lifetimes, they will be
able to bring about a cultural and religious shift in this country towards Islam...
Its a tenet of their faith. It is completely logical.