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By the dawn of the 21st century, more than 1,600 Soyuz rockets of various kinds had been launched with an unparalled success rate of 97.5% for production models
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Atlas V is an active expendable launch system in the Atlas rocket family. Atlas V was formerly operated by Lockheed Martin, and is now operated by the Lockheed Martin-Boeing joint venture United Launch Alliance. Each Atlas V rocket uses a Russian-built RD-180 engine burning kerosene and liquid oxygen to power its first stage
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Originally posted by USAisdevil
reply to post by longtermproject
soyuz has success of 97.5 %
By the dawn of the 21st century, more than 1,600 Soyuz rockets of various kinds had been launched with an unparalled success rate of 97.5% for production models
www.daviddarling.info...
as for the atlas -v , its engine is russian lol
Atlas V is an active expendable launch system in the Atlas rocket family. Atlas V was formerly operated by Lockheed Martin, and is now operated by the Lockheed Martin-Boeing joint venture United Launch Alliance. Each Atlas V rocket uses a Russian-built RD-180 engine burning kerosene and liquid oxygen to power its first stage
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heh , USA would not be able to go to space if it was not for russian rd-180
as for the space shuttle its a overpriced piece of maintainance nightmare
as for iran , its the zionist who are intent on destabilizing it thereby the anti-israel rants..
iran keeps to border , israel and usa do not ..edit on 26-8-2011 by USAisdevil because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by USAisdevil
reply to post by longtermproject
you borrow russian tech and make all kinds of claims . pretty flimsy at best . clearly borrowing russian tech is a hint about american technological capabilities itself , like the made in china hardware of your defence components and the incapability of your nation to produce REEs .
secondly Atlas had a partial failure once so your 100% success rate claim is nonsense itself. and your atlas rocket has 53 launches , compared to soyuz's track record of 1600+ .
as for major space stations , mir was the first one and was constructed not by american space shuttle, and for ISS , good part was proton rocket based and the heaviest parts(20 tons) were lifted by proton itself.
space shuttle capabilities compared to its price seem to show that it was overrated flying junk.
As for israel and iran , i say that ron paul solution is the best , let iran have nukes .
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Originally posted by USAisdevil
reply to post by bodybagPAT
Russia handled Georgia with kid gloves firstly . secondly georgia intiated hostility by killing russian peacekeepers and attempting genocide on south ossetia . thirdly the equipment russia used in Georgia was old from 60's and 70's
secondly , Russian tanks were t-62s/t-72's which were not glonass equipped . Georgian forces had american training and GPS equipped weaponry and israeli upgrades
thirdly Georgia lost .USA has not won the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and is 3 trillion$ in the hole . Russia neutralized a american stooge in 9 days . Russia won and USA who supported Georgia to initate war , did not come to the rescue, shows how brave the ubermighty USA is.
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Originally posted by USAisdevil
reply to post by bodybagPAT
Russia handled Georgia with kid gloves firstly . secondly georgia intiated hostility by killing russian peacekeepers and attempting genocide on south ossetia . thirdly the equipment russia used in Georgia was old from 60's and 70's
secondly , Russian tanks were t-62s/t-72's which were not glonass equipped . Georgian forces had american training and GPS equipped weaponry and israeli upgrades
thirdly Georgia lost .USA has not won the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and is 3 trillion$ in the hole . Russia neutralized a american stooge in 9 days . Russia won and USA who supported Georgia to initate war , did not come to the rescue, shows how brave the ubermighty USA is.
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Originally posted by longtermproject
Originally posted by fenceSitter
Seems most people assume Iranians are stupid. Do you actually think if they did acquire a nuclear weapon they just go ahead and drop it on someone? If they are after a nuke then I think it will be for the same reason everyone else does - deterrence. I think Israel hates Iran as much as Iran hates Israel. Israel is not dumb enough to drop a nuclear either. Israel may decide to bomb an Iran nuclear facility and start a war but I doubt anyone would actually use one in conflict. And if they do, I'd be first to organize a lynch mob to hunt down to SOB that pushed the button!
The point of the post is, Israel is already trigger happy and being restrained by the U.S. to prevent them from bombing Iran, Israel will make a pre-emptive strike, mark my words, before Iran gets the chance to push the button
Originally posted by USAisdevil
reply to post by longtermproject
hopefullly your american icbm are not as crappy as your shuttles .
anyways, Russian icbms are well built and pure quality russian like the soyuz /proton always reliable so i am not concerned , unlike america whose defence components are 'made in china'....
as for iran, I support their right to nuclear weaponry with the kind of threats they face . USA only understands language of extreme destruction and might is right ...
Originally posted by longtermproject
"wiping Israel off the map " ?
If this is in ref to the Ahmadinejad speech , Use the search, it was never uttered.
If a false statement is an instigating factor in your theory, anything mentioned after
said misquote ,tends to lessen your credibility.
Originally posted by dazbog
Originally posted by longtermproject
"wiping Israel off the map " ?
If this is in ref to the Ahmadinejad speech , Use the search, it was never uttered.
If a false statement is an instigating factor in your theory, anything mentioned after
said misquote ,tends to lessen your credibility.
No actually it was one the sheiks or whatever that said it, Ahmadinejad has been very careful with his words, as if they even matter. He is more of a talking head, the real people in control don't like to be on camera
ya right, it's like your druggy brother-inlaw buying a machine gun and can't feed his family.
Originally posted by fenceSitter
Seems most people assume Iranians are stupid. Do you actually think if they did acquire a nuclear weapon they just go ahead and drop it on someone? If they are after a nuke then I think it will be for the same reason everyone else does - deterrence. I think Israel hates Iran as much as Iran hates Israel. Israel is not dumb enough to drop a nuclear either. Israel may decide to bomb an Iran nuclear facility and start a war but I doubt anyone would actually use one in conflict. And if they do, I'd be first to organize a lynch mob to hunt down to SOB that pushed the button!
Originally posted by Yochuna
Originally posted by fenceSitter
Seems most people assume Iranians are stupid. Do you actually think if they did acquire a nuclear weapon they just go ahead and drop it on someone? If they are after a nuke then I think it will be for the same reason everyone else does - deterrence. I think Israel hates Iran as much as Iran hates Israel. Israel is not dumb enough to drop a nuclear either. Israel may decide to bomb an Iran nuclear facility and start a war but I doubt anyone would actually use one in conflict. And if they do, I'd be first to organize a lynch mob to hunt down to SOB that pushed the button!
It's not that they are stupid, it's that the people in power are fanatical. I have seen many reports that the general population of Iran would like to be more like the West in the ability to create and run businesses. The problem is with the fanatical Islamic leaders. Once they get access to WMD's, they will be in a position where they will have to put up or shut up. You can't spend decades claiming that Allah has commanded his followers to destroy Israel and then back off when the ability to destroy Israel has finally arrived.
Thank You. I appreciate that. As a researcher of ancient manuscripts, (One of my strange hobbies), I stay in contact with people in the Middle East. I am amazed at a lot of the stuff which people post about the Middle East and the history of that region. I am also amazed how many people in the Conspiracy Theory community use the community to promote old tired agendas. They take about 25% good information and add 75% fabricated nonsense. I have read a lot of Anti-Semetism on this site as well as some other reports which if were reported in another venue could be viewed as hate speech.
Originally posted by longtermproject
Originally posted by Yochuna
Originally posted by fenceSitter
Seems most people assume Iranians are stupid. Do you actually think if they did acquire a nuclear weapon they just go ahead and drop it on someone? If they are after a nuke then I think it will be for the same reason everyone else does - deterrence. I think Israel hates Iran as much as Iran hates Israel. Israel is not dumb enough to drop a nuclear either. Israel may decide to bomb an Iran nuclear facility and start a war but I doubt anyone would actually use one in conflict. And if they do, I'd be first to organize a lynch mob to hunt down to SOB that pushed the button!
It's not that they are stupid, it's that the people in power are fanatical. I have seen many reports that the general population of Iran would like to be more like the West in the ability to create and run businesses. The problem is with the fanatical Islamic leaders. Once they get access to WMD's, they will be in a position where they will have to put up or shut up. You can't spend decades claiming that Allah has commanded his followers to destroy Israel and then back off when the ability to destroy Israel has finally arrived.
excellent point my friend
(2ND)edit on 31-8-2011 by longtermproject because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by princeofpeace
Sorry-but this is one of the biggest "DUH" threads on ATS.
In other news, water is wet.