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reply posted on 28-8-2011 @ 12:23 PM by Gorman91
reply to post by Amaterasu
Money will always exist. In fact, I would not be surprised to soon see a move to make human energy INTO a currency.
The average human is only loving and caring when they are raised to be so. Otherwise, if they are raised another way, then that too becomes the average. Humans are animals. And animals can be trained. The saying goes, Humans are the only species capable of modifying their own nature and stopping, and even reversing, social and physical decay.
Logic? Logically you just explained it yourself. And that's why up until the Buddha in the East, and Christ in the west, people did not have much compassion beyond the people they knew. It wasn't until we discovered that we should be compassionate did we actually start to be. It was not part of our nature, beyond the evolutionary need to protect those we know for the sake of the community's well being. For ones before, people threw out the sick and elderly for the sake of their own well being.
Now today we have a better picture of logic. Logically I'd like to be helped when I'm dying, so I'll help you when you are. But this idea was nonexistent a few thousand years ago.
The heart is not what makes us human. It is the mind. Dolphins and whales have just as much, if not more, compassion for other things as we do. Of course, for them it's by nature. For us, we have to learn. All you have to do is go to a preschool and watch kids make fun of the weakest link to know that it is not our nature to be compassionate. But we benefit from being able to conquer our own nature. That's probably also what makes us human. Knowing what evolution has programmed us to do, can in fact be wrong.
Go back a few thousand years, and compassion did not exist. Love was borderline extinct. Men stole women from one tribe without a second thought, and women accepted that fate without a second thought. People were bad. They raped, they pillage, they even exterminated most of the other humanoid species on this world, if they weren't raping them.
About 50,000 years ago behavioral modernity started to evolve. And people began understanding very lightly this thing called compassion. But even then, it was not universal. it was only to those people knew. fast forward about 45,000 years to The Buddha and Christ, and we see the first examples of universal compassion.
Any species that takes 250,000 years to learn about compassion clearly does not have it in its nature.
Yes humanity tries. And good they do. But to return to all the way back when. This neither proves we were created by anything, nor that compassion is part of our nature.
Money will always exist. In fact, I would not be surprised to soon see a move to make human energy INTO a currency.
The average human is only loving and caring when they are raised to be so. Otherwise, if they are raised another way, then that too becomes the average. Humans are animals. And animals can be trained. The saying goes, Humans are the only species capable of modifying their own nature and stopping, and even reversing, social and physical decay.
Logic? Logically you just explained it yourself. And that's why up until the Buddha in the East, and Christ in the west, people did not have much compassion beyond the people they knew. It wasn't until we discovered that we should be compassionate did we actually start to be. It was not part of our nature, beyond the evolutionary need to protect those we know for the sake of the community's well being. For ones before, people threw out the sick and elderly for the sake of their own well being.
Now today we have a better picture of logic. Logically I'd like to be helped when I'm dying, so I'll help you when you are. But this idea was nonexistent a few thousand years ago.
The heart is not what makes us human. It is the mind. Dolphins and whales have just as much, if not more, compassion for other things as we do. Of course, for them it's by nature. For us, we have to learn. All you have to do is go to a preschool and watch kids make fun of the weakest link to know that it is not our nature to be compassionate. But we benefit from being able to conquer our own nature. That's probably also what makes us human. Knowing what evolution has programmed us to do, can in fact be wrong.
Go back a few thousand years, and compassion did not exist. Love was borderline extinct. Men stole women from one tribe without a second thought, and women accepted that fate without a second thought. People were bad. They raped, they pillage, they even exterminated most of the other humanoid species on this world, if they weren't raping them.
About 50,000 years ago behavioral modernity started to evolve. And people began understanding very lightly this thing called compassion. But even then, it was not universal. it was only to those people knew. fast forward about 45,000 years to The Buddha and Christ, and we see the first examples of universal compassion.
Any species that takes 250,000 years to learn about compassion clearly does not have it in its nature.
Yes humanity tries. And good they do. But to return to all the way back when. This neither proves we were created by anything, nor that compassion is part of our nature.
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reply posted on 28-8-2011 @ 03:10 PM by Gorman91
reply to post by bjarneorn
Yes that is compassion, but not all of us feel it the same way. When I see people hurt I help. But there isn't always something in me that says to help. Sometimes, there is no feeling. I just know that's wrong, because I was taught that way.
Yes that is compassion, but not all of us feel it the same way. When I see people hurt I help. But there isn't always something in me that says to help. Sometimes, there is no feeling. I just know that's wrong, because I was taught that way.
reply posted on 28-8-2011 @ 06:02 PM by Amaterasu
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Amaterasu
Money will always exist. In fact, I would not be surprised to soon see a move to make human energy INTO a currency.
Hahaha! If You add to the system what money represents, You no longer need money. In fact, if You remove the cost of energy up and down the line, You find that what is left is free. That's why adding plenum energy would remove the need for money. You can say money will always exist - and that will be true as long as the plenum energy and its extraction methods are suppressed and hidden. The elite KNOW They will become equal to everyOne else should We have the ability to draw Our own energy for free.
The average human is only loving and caring when they are raised to be so.
LOL! Um. We're talking of the AVERAGE here and it will be only one thing. The AVERAGE Human Being is loving and caring. The BULK of Humanity is loving and caring, else so many would not contribute to relief efforts, community causes, and so on.
reply posted on 28-8-2011 @ 06:44 PM by Gorman91
reply to post by Amaterasu
A lot of those people contribute so they're name is on it, usually to mask the evils they've done in life, or make themselves feel better.
There's a simple reason why this so-called free energy will not change anything. Because you can simply have a user tax.
Money exists. It always will exists. Because people want. And even when they have all they have, they want more. And there has never been a moment in human history where this was proven false.
Even in a world run by robots, the repairman still wants money for his job.
A lot of those people contribute so they're name is on it, usually to mask the evils they've done in life, or make themselves feel better.
There's a simple reason why this so-called free energy will not change anything. Because you can simply have a user tax.
Money exists. It always will exists. Because people want. And even when they have all they have, they want more. And there has never been a moment in human history where this was proven false.
Even in a world run by robots, the repairman still wants money for his job.
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