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I think there are more female serial killers than most think

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posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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We live in a very feminist society and i think there are more female serial killers than what most people believe though probably not as much as male killers and they are usually blue beards and revenge killers but i think some of them kill for sexual pleasure,born with no sense of morality and hatred for certain groups like different races or cultures and like some male killers they target the opposite sex but mostly use their charm and gender to their advantage. in american history there has only been 1 female sexual predator when there is probably more if just 1 was found and if Elizabeth Bathory existed someone like her must exist as well these days you can get away with something just because your a woman.
And here is a list for you to look at if you want www.xianet.net...




posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 05:22 AM
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If you look hard enough you find that nature tends to seek balance in most all things.

I would not be surprised to learn that there are an equal number of male and female serial killers.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 05:28 AM
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People don't talk about a lot of things. And this is one of them.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 05:35 AM
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Women are flipping crazy. Nothing about them would surprise me anymore.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 05:41 AM
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^^^^^ hahaha. Right on brother. This may be the most true statement on ATS. Haha.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 05:49 AM
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Molimo i suspect you are correct. The link listed the more well-known. TV programs tell of others that we don't hear about often and shows from other countries tell of their female serial killers. Some times the female serial killers seem to get much less exposure because they were paired up with a fellow as violent and insane as they are, and they had a jolly time of their depravity as a couple.

A lady in Canada who did assorted crimes over the years settled into running senior citizen care type business. This was in nice, large old homes. She made the guests sign over their pension checks to her, they were penniless but fed and had a roof over their heads. Slowly but surely they would start to disappear. Someone else would take their place. And those checks just kept coming in every month. She did the kindly well educated little old lady act real well, people in the community thought she was a sweet person. If I recall correctly she moved around a bit but eventually got caught.

There were a few that used the Lonely Hearts type advertisements in the newspapers to lure in suitors. One lady killed them off while they were just dating, and had the fellows bodies in nice coffins in the basement. Another lady was a hog farmer. She married a few of her victims, who all wound up being fed to the pigs.

Lots of women have knocked off husbands for insurance money, re-marrying and repeating the deed. I don't know how many murders qualifies a person as a serial killer.

Many women have been found out after killing several children; some of them their own kids, others were nurses killing in the hospital.

There has probably been a great deal more female serial killers than people will ever know of. Those that got away with a lifetime of it. It wasn't all that long ago in history that society wouldn't even consider the possibility of a woman doing such atrocious things, as they were considered the 'fairer sex', weak and frail, the 'she's just a girl' nonsense.

As society has been spiraling into decay in some areas we will see more and more female serial and spree killers being caught for their crimes. I think serious mental health issues affect much more of the population than most are aware of.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 06:02 AM
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After killing their husbands multiple times you would think they would realise something was wrong

And with the women who choose partners maybe its because they are physically stronger than them and they might be thinking they could help them with things more physically demanding like dragging the body or if their would be victim retaliates



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 06:08 AM
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Oh, they certainly exist, but.....an equal number, you say? Come on.

And just why is this thread in the Skunk Works section? I think I can guess that it did not star here.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 06:26 AM
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Yeah it was originally in political issues but someone moved it



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 06:45 AM
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How is this society feminist? Women still get paid less than males in equal positions........



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 06:47 AM
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Thanks for sharing the list. What an interesting read. I was only aware of Elizabeth Bathory, as she has an awesome band named after her
Wasn't she known for bathing in blood in order to keep her skin healthy? I remember reading that somewhere. Quite strange.

Anyway, Interestingly enough, a music group called Alkaline Trio did a song a while ago about Susan Atkins, and her part in the Manson murders. Susan Atkins (also known as Sadie Glutz) is notoriously known for her role in the murder of the American actress Sharon Tate as well as a few others.

If anyone is interested, the song is from Alkaline Trio's Crimson album, and it is called "Sadie". The lyrics to the song are quite interesting, and at the end of the song, the merch girl from the band read's Susan Atkin's testimony as to why she felt the murders were justified in the eyes of her "God", Charles Manson:


"He represented a God to me that was so beautiful that I'd do anything for him. I'd do anything for God, even murder, if I believed it was right. How could it not be right if it is done with love? I have no remorse for doing what was right to me. I have no guilt in me."


Sheeeesh, scary world.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 06:48 AM
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Change this statement to

"Black people are flipping crazy. Nothing about them would surprise me anymore."

"Conspiracy Theorists are flipping crazy. Nothing about them would surprise me anymore."

"Tea Partiers are flipping crazy. Nothing about them would surprise me anymore."

"9/11 Truthers are flipping crazy. Nothing about them would surprise me anymore."

"Mexicans are flipping crazy. Nothing about them would surprise me anymore."

And EVERYONE would get upset and cry racism, disinformation agent, bigot, etc. But since it's women everyone will giggle.... especially since the majority of this site are men.


Your comment personally offended me.
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posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 07:11 AM
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On the behavior of female serial killers:
www.suite101.com...

Forensic psychologists debate the term "female serial killer" because murderesses don't kill for the same reasons as murderers. The psychological disorders are different.
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We don't hear of many female serial killers, and that may be partly because women aren't as prone to commit any type of crime as men. Men are more aggressive and violent than women are, which is why female serial killers are less common. Women account for 14% of violent offenders (men are 6 times more likely to commit violent crimes).
It would make sense that if men are 6 time more likely to beat people up, then the ratio would likely be the same for murder, rape, serial killing, etc. Testosterone plays a MAJOR role in physically agressive behavior, period.

Because women don't kill for the same reasons as men, forensic psychologists find the term "female serial killer" controversial. This term was defined by sexual motivation and the desire for power over victims, which are characteristics that murderesses don't usually display. Female serial killers kill for other reasons.
This is likely why it was moved to the stinky forum. Mass murderer is generally the term used for non-sexually driven multiple murders. There are plenty of female mass murderers, but there's little to no evidence of female serial killers existing. But it is becoming popular to call non-sexually driven mass murderers serial killers, so we'll hear the phrase "female serial killers" and take it far more seriously than not.

It goes on to list similarities and contrasts of gender specific serial killers.

But since male sexually-derived serial killers ALL admit to being exposed early to porn, if I loved porn, I'd want to hide that fact under lumping as many killers with other motives together as possible. How's that for a conspiracy.


But the facts are that mass-murdering women are now called serial killers.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 07:27 AM
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There is a tiny bit of truth to the OP's statement.

Female serial killers do have a history of getting away with more, but are usually more munchausen by proxy, or euthansia killers, or black widows (married to wealthy old, sick or ill person and pushing them over the edge). There has been a tendency in the past for blind eyes not to notice that a woman killer has had three husbands in a row that all died of stomach cancer ... but I think these attitudes are changing.

I will say, however, that as far as victim counts and numbers go classically male persons are way ahead. Also women serial killers ordinarily have very different motives.

There's actually a number of books on the topic, so I wouldn't say its as under the radar as persons say. It's as under the radar as a person saying 'I think male depression happens more than people say it does.'



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 07:28 AM
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Look - I have to sort of agree...

In my experience a screwed-up man can usually still be reasoned with - as an example: if they are angry and downright fed-up with females after a lifetime of emotional abuse, they can usually find emotional normality when finding a good relationship in which the woman is balanced.

But a woman that is screwed-up is usually completely nutters. As a woman I find it difficult making female friends. Modern women for the most part are mostly interested in financial gain, security, status, glitzy shopping windows, shopping parcels, expensive brands - and very few have anything of real substance going on in between the ears - in my experience anyways.

In my small circle I have met one elderly woman whose husband "committed suicide by shooting himself three times" and a tidy insurance sum paid out to her. And I know another woman whose husband (who was a brilliant man, a great debater and a friend who I had the world of respect for) died recently under mysterious circumstances - she was the only who benefited financially.

I was acquainted with another man who also died under mysterious circumstances when he befriended a matron of a hospital and refused entering into a relationship with her. He drank a glass of orange juice at her house, got stabbing stomach pains soon thereafter, and was found dead the next morning. No traces of any substance or poison was found in his system.

Obviously I can carry on about the intricacies, investigations and evidences involved in these cases, but that would not be right and would take until tomorrow. I am not saying that any of the women involved in these scenarios were guilty. But - I do not know of a single man who have been involved in any similar "mysterious going-ons".

A balanced and intelligent woman is the most amazing individual one can have the pleasure of meeting! However, in the same breath and in my experience there is no middle-ground for a woman that has been touched with shallowness, vanity, arrogance, self-centeredness or greed. They can be a terrible breed.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by Pinke
There is a tiny bit of truth to the OP's statement.

Female serial killers do have a history of getting away with more, but are usually more munchausen by proxy, or euthansia killers, or black widows (married to wealthy old, sick or ill person and pushing them over the edge). There has been a tendency in the past for blind eyes not to notice that a woman killer has had three husbands in a row that all died of stomach cancer ... but I think these attitudes are changing.

I will say, however, that as far as victim counts and numbers go classically male persons are way ahead. Also women serial killers ordinarily have very different motives.

There's actually a number of books on the topic, so I wouldn't say its as under the radar as persons say. It's as under the radar as a person saying 'I think male depression happens more than people say it does.'
Women average twice the length of time before getting caught. 4 years for guys, 8 for girls.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 07:36 AM
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It would have been pretty funny if the man who shot "himself" 3 times were all head shots if you know what im saying



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 07:45 AM
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The first two shots were headshots, and the third was a shot through the chest (the angle was also completely wrong). Either he was SO desperate to get away from her that he shot himself again and again when he realized he wasn't dead (LIKE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN - hey - I'm still alive - let me sit upright and pop myself again) or there is foul play involved.

This happened in the woman in question's thirties. She is now in her eighties. She told me one night when her defences were down and she had had some wine in exactly how a "psychiatric-friend-of-hers-that-was-well-respected-and-whom-she-slept-with" testified in court on her behalf and they could not prove it was murder without reasonable doubt. Needless to say - I don't do computer favours for THAT woman no more!!!



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 07:47 AM
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Welcome to the justice system



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 07:49 AM
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It certainly does seem that profilers take longer taking the leap to identify a killer as female, but AS of right now, are there any unsolved serial killings?



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