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Busted!! fake news on libya- movie sets, fake videos and pics, death threats to journalists

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posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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Do I have to start pointing out posts for you? You made the claim first. Then I responded about the lighting.
Btw, I already gave you an alternative media analysis from a neutral country supported by outside sources. Are you still going to insist on the issue?




posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by letscit
your wrong, but that is your opinion, and i have mine. i wont be swayed by your and obviously you wont be swayed by mine. just sucks im stuck in this vacuum with people of your mindset who think our armies can bring peace to the world through death.


Doesn't make any sense to discuss these things with him, reading what he says is like watching the movie MIB. "Captain America, the best of the best of the best".



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by the2ofusr1
Its worse than we thought ...check this out
IF Pepe Escobar is correct in identifying the "rebel" leader as an Al Qaeda dude, then we are not just creating another (ad hoc?) Bin Laden, but a whole country led by an AlQ
www.informationclearinghouse.info...

Listen to Tarpley about what is going on .. "Those green square buildings are very old, some of them go back to the Roman Empire - but they created that in Doha and if you look there is a very interesting comparison on the Internet where they show you what the Green Square really looks like and what this 'fake set' looks like and it's quite similar, but there were enough giveaways to see that this was also faked."


tarpley.net...
'NATO playing dirty tricks in Libya war' www.presstv.ir...
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I've seen many reports that these 'rebels' are Al Qaeda....which shouldn't really be a surprise because Al Qaieda are a CIA asset.

In the video of the reporter who is trapped in the hotel, he has said they've been warned and threatened not to mention Al Qaeda - the warning/threat coming from what he believes to be CIA agents posing as journalists.

I've also seen a short documentary of the war in Libya by a foreign TV station - may have been Russian - where they openly call the 'rebels' Al Qaeda.



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by Gorman91
Disagreement doesn't make you a troll. And this is honestly just unproven. You should probably read through the thread, It's pretty clear that it's real.
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Thinking you are a troll, is being "kind" in reality.

Your view are even more rightwing, than the US government itself. People today, the rightwing, are discussing and argueing how to avoid a new Iraq. You on the other hand, think it's a good thing ... if you are real, your about as sane as you say Ghaddaffi is.

And on top of everything, concerning the 911 conspiracy theories. I think that today, when we have Al Qaida actually working WITH NATO, you have proof positive of 911 being an internal job.
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posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by bjarneorn

Originally posted by SaturnFX
Lot of russian times as source.


And that is supposed to mean what? It's russian, so it's a commie thing?

Sort of, yes.
Although the typical russian is not much of a "commie", there are factions that want the good ole days of the USSR back and are trying to push towards that agenda.






Call me foolish, but I would think trying to fake an entire raid of a country would be exposed quite easily within a fairly quick amount of time...anyone crossing the border with a camera would be able to debunk whatever bunk there is fairly quickly...


Really?

Look at yourself in a mirror, you are a living example of a religious fanatic. Your religion isn't muslim or christian, it's "I'm an American, so I'm God"-religion.

Thanks
But sort of the opposite. I get bored with everyone insisting every thing on earth has american hands on it, be it good or bad.
Simply put, I don't believe the US is the only nation that can do stuff out here. Some nation rebels, its the USA. Some earthquake happens, its the USA. The people whom blame everything on the USA are the ones painting the US as deitylike more than anyone simply watching the world and taking things for what they are until something points differently.
I am not saying the US doesn't have its hands in many things, but eventually you hit the BS ratio and realize some whom oppose the US are the ones that are the religious ones that think the US is the only capable country on earth and the rest are knuckle dragging hippys


Where is your "critical" thinking? Where is your "scientific" mind, that says you have to doubt things? You don't have any ... whatever is said on news, you believe it.

Ahh, I see...because I don't blindly believe a blogger and someone whom cannot understand the difference between daylight in high detail and low light low rez...that makes me brainwashed...my knowledge and skepticism makes me some fanatical mainstream story defender. gotcha.
I am sure there is no irony going on in this post btw.


Because you automatically believe everything you do is right ...

I tend to try and progress the left agenda actually


and if I told you, that the Nazis are your own mirror image, it won't help.

Thank god you wrote that, I was wondering when goodwin's law would show up.



You don't have the ability to criticize yourself. If anyone came out and said your government was lying, you'd disbelieve that, in the face of any evidence provided ...

I reviewed the evidence with a open mind, and concluded that beyond the BBC's stream...there is nothing overly remarkable. I don't want to believe that its fake, I don't believe its impossible to fake either..I looked at it with a neutral mindset overall.
I suspected it is possible the arab nations would want to replace him, therefore sure...why not hoax it and install a more cooperative dictator...but I didn't see that after a bit of collective skepticism from the adults.



War is like a football game ...

No, War is war. Its a disgusting failure of humanity and our ability to think things through that should be fought with swords only to bring back the slight honor for defense of the homeland it once had.


Anyhow, I suggest having an open mind, else your going to have a very jaded view of the world and will fall for any conspiracy propaganda that is aimed at your worldview. Join the adults, or be lead by propaganda specialists.



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 10:45 AM
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Actually no. I'm not talking about wanting another Iraq. I'm talking about wanting to undo the last 40 years of US policy in the region and let them be as they were then, free to carry out their government.

I simply refuse to leave anything worse than the way I found it.



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 10:50 AM
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Pepe Escobar interview where he gives the name of the Al Qaeda commander of the rebel troops.




SO - while our countries are COLLABORATING with and FUNDING, and ARMING Al Qaeda in Libya, in our own countries we are being subjected to TSA checks, severe restrictions of civil and human rights because of the THREAT from Al Qaeda?????????

For anyone who doubts, this is just ore more confirmation that they are lying to justify stripping the freedom of the ordinary people.

AND this makes our governments terrorists, BY THEIR OWN DEFINITION.

They are consorting with, financing, arming, aiding and supporting KNOWN AL QAEDA TERRORISTS.

Obama and Cameron and every other 'leader' of countries involved, and NATO itself are now officially terrorists according to the laws they themselves created.

And all the journalists who are not reporting this are guilty of supporting terrorists too.



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posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 11:11 AM
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This Afri Synergy video from 13 July, 2011 gives a different picture from what we were being told in our media.


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posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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In the light of the above, this makes much more sense:




posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer

Good find, I think we all remember at the start of the US and NATO involvement in Libya how negatively Russia viewed that. They have plenty of motivation for wanting to discredit the Libyan rebels and their perceived alliance with the US.


I agree and to deconstruct the disinformation posted in the OP we must investigate the source, the blog of the russian woman on Live Journal. Try to find her motivations, check her sources etc. It's not an easy task since it's written in russian but this is the route we must take I think.



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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wow you sure are hard to figure out. so contradictory. hard to , let me just say. ya better stand for something or you'll fall for anything.



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 11:57 AM
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There's plenty I stand for. Responsibility, civility, civilization, culture, freedom, liberty, authority when needed. If I sound contradictory, that's probably, at it's core, the Thomas Jefferson in me. A man who pretty much contradicted everything he said once he was president, but did it in such a way so as to support what he said.

I don't find it contradictory personally. It's simple. Treat all people with respect. Grow to know them. And as the ones you grow to know reveal their true colors, uplift those who deserve it, and put into shadow the ones who don't.

sort of a semi-socialistic capitalism I suppose.



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have. The course of history shows us that as a government grows, liberty decreases."
— Thomas Jefferson

Your ideas are nowhere near Jefferson's........

WASHINGTON (AP) — The CIA has sent small teams of operatives into Libya and helped rescue a crew member of a U.S. fighter jet that crashed, and the White House said Wednesday it was assessing “all types of assistance"” for rebels battling Moammar Gadhafi’s troops..

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John Stockwell, a former CIA Station Chief in Angola (1976), was then the direction of the CIA under George Bush Senior. In 1987, he placed the agency’s murder tall at more than six million people This number is right up there with Hitler, Stalin, and Mao’s mass murders.

How 6 million People Were killed in CIA secret wars against third world countries



Is this what our founding fathers wanted ? Perpetual Wars?



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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As I said. I don't really care about body counts in war. War is to annihilate your enemy.

As for Government, I favor a small government. Preferably one at war with itself. I'd consider it ideal if most of those 6 million were other Americans in the government.



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by Gorman91
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As I said. I don't really care about body counts in war. War is to annihilate your enemy.

As for Government, I favor a small government. Preferably one at war with itself. I'd consider it ideal if most of those 6 million were other Americans in the government.



In War or in Peace,Death is final. Your obvious lack of compassion,sense of humanity,and the obvious fact you can Dehumanize victims are a paradox with what you have been saying you believe in. And you believe in Ron Paul? Preposterous !



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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GREAT POST, OP! Just like they faked Obama's Birth Certificate, and the moon landing, they are FAKING this war in some fake country called 'Libya" But here's the thing!!! LIBYA DOESNT EXIST! You're at the tip of a VERY VERY big ice burg my friend. The lamestream media invented the whole place to steal your taxes dollars! Those people are all Muslim terrorists!

Edited to add: I do not know antibody all these Russian communist sources of 'news', though. They are trying to destroy America!
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posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Yes, it is a paradox. And to be honest, one that results in a military that has the utmost respect for human life in peace, and utter brutality in war. This is a necessary contradiction. One that Jefferson and the founding fathers spoke of and did, in dealing with internal enemies such as the early attempts to create a national bank. what did they do?

"You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the eternal God, I will rout you out." -Andrew Jackson.

"I was born for the storm, and a calm does not suit me." -Andrew Jackson.

Why, they had themselves a most civil, but brutal, internal war.

Founding fathers never spoke of peace, other than dealing with the outside world.
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posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by Gorman91
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Yes, it is a paradox. And to be honest, one that results in a military that has the utmost respect for human life in peace, and utter brutality in war. This is a necessary contradiction. One that Jefferson and the founding fathers spoke of and did, in dealing with internal enemies such as the early attempts to create a national bank. what did they do?

"You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the eternal God, I will rout you out." -Andrew Jackson.

Why, they had themselves a most civil, but brutal, internal war.


But the CIA is not the military. Thats where you are wrong.They are a clandestine organization,that does things to people,Sovereign Nations, in the GUISE of liberty,and freedom.Thomas Jefferson would be rolling in his grave,and so would the rest of the founding fathers. When I hear of this way of thinking,or the thought of turning a blind eye,or justifying it,I think of those Average Germans who were forced to march into Concentration Camps,and bury the Jews. The ones who were willing to put the blinders on,because it was easy to do,easy to justify.



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1
.Thomas Jefferson would be rolling in his grave,and so would the rest of the founding fathers.


Based on what interpretative of his ethos?


When I hear of this way of thinking,or the thought of turning a blind eye,or justifying it,I think of those Average Germans who were forced to march into Concentration Camps,and bury the Jews. The ones who were willing to put the blinders on,because it was easy to do,easy to justify.


hyperbole.



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