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Originally posted by blazenresearcher
reply to post by randyvs
The WORD they refer to is the LOGOS.
Here is the short version of the meaning.
en.wikipedia.org...
However, in light of the fact that he is the sole interpreter of the Sumerian writings brings a great deal of argument against his image of the ancient cuneiform tablets.
www.crystalinks.com...
Knowledge of cuneiform was lost until 1835 when Henry Rawlinson, a British army officer, found some of the Behistun inscriptions on a cliff at Behistun in Persia. Carved in the reign of King Darius of Persia (522 BC486 BC), they consisted of identical texts in the three official languages of the empire: Old Persian, Babylonian, and Elamite. The Behistun inscription was to the decipherment of cuneiform what the Rosetta Stone was to the decipherment of Egyptian hieroglyphs. Rawlinson correctly deduced that the Old Persian was a syllabic script and he successfully deciphered it. Working independently of him, the Irish Assyriologist Edward Hincks also contributed to the decipherment. After translating the Persian, Rawlinson and Hincks began to decipher the others. They were greatly helped by Paul Émile Botta's discovery of the city of Niniveh in 1842. Among the treasures uncovered by Botta were the remains of the great library of Assurbanipal, a royal archive containing tens of thousands of baked clay tablets covered with cuneiform inscriptions. By 1851, Hincks and Rawlinson could read 200 Babylonian signs. They were soon joined by two other decipherers: a young German-born scholar called Julius Oppert, and the versatile British Orientalist William Henry Fox Talbot. In 1857 the four men met in London and took part in a famous experiment to test the accuracy of their decipherments. Edwin Norris, the secretary of the Royal Asiatic Society, gave each of them a copy of a recently discovered inscription from the reign of the Assyrian emperor Tiglath-Pileser I. A jury of experts was empanelled to examine the resulting translations and assess their accuracy. In all essential points the translations produced by the four scholars were found to be in close agreement with one another. There were of course some slight discrepancies. The inexperienced Talbot had made a number of mistakes, and Oppert's translation contained a few doubtful passages due to his unfamiliarity with the English language. But Hincks' and Rawlinson's versions were virtually identical. The jury declared itself satisfied, and the decipherment of Akkadian cuneiform was adjudged a fait accompli.
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Let me put it this way. I want to believe.I truly do... But I can't.... I just have so many questions. There are so many contradictions, hypocritical acts by " god".... It just doesn't make sense...
For God so loved the world that He gave His only-begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but shall have eternal life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is life eternal in Christ Jesus our Lord.
13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by SuperiorEd
However, in light of the fact that he is the sole interpreter of the Sumerian writings brings a great deal of argument against his image of the ancient cuneiform tablets.
See, this is where you, and others go wrong everytime. Attributing the entire translations to Zecharia Sitchin, He is only one of the men who decoded the ancient cuneiform tablets, there were many others who did it before him, and as I understand it, it is an ongoing project. I do not have their names handy, and supper is ready, so I am sure in a few minutes time you can find them for yourself.
I myself heard about the Anunaki and Nibiru years before I ever heard of
Zecharia Sitchin.
Originally posted by petrus4
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Let me put it this way. I want to believe.I truly do... But I can't.... I just have so many questions. There are so many contradictions, hypocritical acts by " god".... It just doesn't make sense...
The Christians aren't going to like this; but to be brutally honest, for anyone seeking a path to God, Christianity isn't a religion I'd recommend. I left it myself for a reason; several reasons, in fact.
As an individual, Jesus Christ is exemplary. You can learn a lot from studying his message, and I'd heartily encourage anyone to do so. Christians themselves, however, are a very different story.
It's basically like Gandhi said. "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."
Originally posted by GmoS719
Originally posted by Josonic
Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
RELIGION IS A FORM OF SELF GOVERNING
Religion is the opposite of self-governing. It's being governed by an outside source(the Bible, the Qur'an, God). It literally is being governed by something else.
ATHEISM IS A FORM OF SELF GOVERNING
Atheism is a form of immaturity.
You need to grow up.
Look around you.
How could this earth, no not earth, This UNIVERSE.
How could the universe even exist with out God?
Impossible.
Originally posted by petrus4
So I was just reading the thread, "Conversation with a six year old," in the dreams and prophecies forum, where a woman was talking about how her child had started spontaneously talking to her about extraterrestrials. Other people were saying various different things, but then a Christian randomly shows up, and among other things posts the link to a web article asserting that it wasn't possible for extraterrestrials to be anything other than Satanic.
Before I continue, here, I'm going to say that I think the author of that article did have one valid point. The idea of an extraterrestrial race coming down and saying, "Do what we say and we'll save you," genuinely *is* dangerous, even if not for the reasons he might think. An ET group that did that, would genuinely be giving us warning signs not to listen to them at all; but I don't think most people would have the discernment to figure that out, sadly.
My main point, though, is that I can honestly hardly remember the last communication that I've had with a Christian, that didn't consist almost entirely of appeals to guilt and fear, or accusations that I was a demoniac; or that just about anything they didn't understand was automatically Satanic by default. The fact that I no longer wanted a belief system that had a basis of guilt and fear, was actually what prompted me to leave Christianity; and I don't appreciate hearing it from them now, any more than I did back then.
I'm not saying that *all* Christians are like this, hence my use of the word "some" in the thread title. I do think, however, that there unfortunately is a sizeable number of contemporary Christians who need to read their Bible a little more thoroughly. Jesus Christ did *not* continually make appeals to guilt and fear. Some, yes; but there was also a considerable amount of grace and love in there as well.
If you are not prepared to at least periodically emphasise the more positive aspects of Christ's message, then as far as I am concerned, you do not deserve to call yourselves Christians at all.
Understand this; if you claim to represent Yahweh, or His son, then He will judge you for how many of you, in my lifetime, have treated me; and it is written that he is not deaf to cries for justice.
Originally posted by Xaberz
I agree with you on pretty much all of what you're saying, petrus4. Guilt and fear is so strong among Christians, but I suppose that shouldn't be surprising when their God is so jealous, vengeful, and wrathful in the Old Testement.
I prefer the testament where one should be kind to one another. Treat your neighbor how you would like to be treated. That sort of thing. And I think it's important to point out to Christians that the scriptures teach us not to judge other people, although it seems like many Christians spend most of their time judging others for their sins. Here is the verse:
"Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against a brother or sister or judges them speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?" [James 4:11-12]edit on 26-8-2011 by Xaberz because: (no reason given)