reply to post by RomaMayLi
Hey, man, who died & made you God??!!
Being able to identify the factors influencing your country and weigh their impact is generally associated with sentient beings.
Being God is not a requirement to identify a threat and logically explore methods of handling it. In my case, however, it does come in handy.
How dare you suggest genocide is the answer to any solution just like a freaking Nazi.
When you have an infestation of bed bugs, what do you do? Exterminate them. When you see a bucket full of mosquito larvae, you spill the water out
to prevent the spread of various diseases.
When a sovereign power is subjected to acts of aggression from a lesser power, this is akin to a bed bug or mosquito biting a human being. Most of
the time - it's a nuisance and nothing more. Occasionally, it causes real problems. At the end of the day - the bugs contribute little to the
quality of life, and removal of them is only logical.
Comparing that to ideas of racial superiority and a birthright to dictate is quite far out there. The Nazis were not the first to kill large numbers
of people, and certainly don't have the corner market in that regard.
By doing so you suggest that Israel has or should become no better than Nazis.
This is where you don't get it. It's not about better or worse - good or bad. It's about a contest of wills and desires to dominate a given
limited resource. The Palestinians wish to dominate the land the Israelis are on. The Israelis wish to dominate their current residence. The
Palestinians are willing to launch militant attacks on Israel and cause harm to its people and property with no real ability to seize land from
The point of a nation is mutual defense of its citizens - perhaps the most primal cause for our social behavior, to begin with. Israel is under
attack by a power that refuses to negotiate or cease its attacks. Israel will have to address and eventually neutralize the threat, or undermine the
very reason for its existence by not taking action.
Think carefully before you post ANYTHING on this site again
It's often said that, upon encountering a sufficiently intelligent species, we would not even recognize it as being intelligent, as the basic axioms
of their thought process would be complete gibberish beyond our grasp.
now that the world is on the threshold of WWIII.
What rock have you been under? World War III started the day the Russians broke the German lines and lasted into the early 90s (though I suppose you
could say World War II never really ended). In either case - the world has always been on the brink of war somewhere or another. Humans are a
predatory mammal - it only stands to reason. There's no sense in fearing death or fearing the day you have to use a weapon. Manipulate what factors
you can to avoid unnecessary conflict, but accept that conflict is a part of life that must be managed with all of the tools available.
I'm surprised that your post survived the mods. SHAME ON YOU!!!
Remember where I insinuated you were so vastly intellectually inferior as to be incapable of recognizing my thought process as anything meaningful?
It's probably not that bad... but let me point something out. The post I was responding to was -cheering- for the Palestinians and their attacks on
Israel; despite the fact Palestine has zero chance of claiming any land by doing so.
At least when I suggest "genocide" - it is with a defined goal in mind that is both plausible and has a defined end to hostilities.
reply to post by DerekJR321
How can you expect Palestinians to sit down and come to an agreement with Israel? Honestly. Put yourself in their shoes. Here.. I'll help.
A pointless suggestion. Are the Native Americans on reservations abducting and killing U.S. nationals or launching impromptu ballistic weapons into
I come to your home and decide that your front yard is now mine. God gave it to me. You have no more claim to it. Its mine.
What history class did you flunk out of? The U.N. (or what would become the U.N.) appropriated the land for Israelis following the liberation of
Europe. I take exception to the notion that the U.N. is God. That really will start a war.
A few years later I tell you that your back yard now belongs to me. You disagree with me so I shoot up your house. Hey.. I have a right to
defend "my" land.
Again, what history class did you flunk out of? You're obviously literate, but liberals tend to have their history down much better. Israel has
been attacked multiple times by coalition armies bent on removing them from the map. Each time, Israel has defended its borders, and counter-advanced
with the result of expanding its own borders.
Seriously, the Arab nations suck so bad at invasions that they end up losing land after each one against Israel, the first being only a few years
after the country was established and had no military force to speak of.
By this point you are real pissed off. But being cut off from everything, how are you supposed to fight back? You throw a few rocks up at me. I
come downstairs and kill a bunch of your family members. You were threatening my well being and way of life. I have a right to take over your home. A
book said so. Its mine now and I will defend myself from your rocks.
Religion has nothing to do with Israel's expansion or reason for existing. Their expansion is due to the incompetence of the Arab world. Really -
it's sad when you try and invade and get your ass kicked fifty miles into your own border. They wrote a check their ass couldn't cash.
As for Israel believing it has a right to live there... you obviously feel you should have the right to live in your home, don't you?
So honestly... in that scenario.. would you be expected to come upstairs and make a "deal" with me? I suppose you would come upstairs and
just say "Hey you know what? Your right.. I'll just go move to a neighbors house".
The fact of the matter is that Palestine is an irrelevant power. Their viewpoint and opinion is null on account of their incapability. Why they will
or will not enter into trade talks is as irrelevant as their reasoning for attacks. Their existence is marked by being petulant and destructive.
Israel has the capability and logical justification to remove them.
Likewise - if you have me locked in my basement under your house and somehow have me rendered irrelevant as a physical threat; I don't have a whole
lot of options to do anything but abide by your terms or take whatever consequences you decide. I don't get to take a right. I don't get to make
an emotional plea.
What I decide to do will ultimately depend upon what I determine to be of importance. I could appeal to "honor" and die against insurmountable odds
as a martyr to myself, perhaps. Or, I could decide life - in some form or another - was worth sticking around for, even if it meant having to put up
Let Israel deal with their own problems. America should back out of the equation. Then I bet Israel would change their tune. But their
knowledge that America is blindly allied with them, lets them act like a punk on the block.
You've got a really deluded view of reality. Israel gets very little support from the U.S.. Further, they are a self-sufficient agricultural,
military, and industrial power. They aren't pushovers. Just look at the Merkava IV MBT.
Considering they could wipe out Palestine with little more than a gesture, I would not rank them in the "punk" category. Palestine and the like
making idle threats and acting tough because they can shoot off rockets Americans use for hobby projects... that's punk-like behavior.