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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:04 PM
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It has nothing to do with not liking what you say. You posted on a public forum to generate opinion about your particular interests. I commented, respectfully, and you don't like what I have to say. Simple as that!

Is there something wrong with asking people to not be hypocritical? If you're going to give one Prez grief over their actions in the Middle East we should be just as forceful if the next Prez does the same.

Let's be honest Neo. You have a reputation of being clearly anti-Obama and deflect all claims that Bush may have been wrong as well. So who is it really that is being hypocritical? That's what I am trying to get you to understand.




posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:12 PM
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i have ever right to be anti obama anti democrat as i want

and you want to talk about deflection tactic what do i have to do with this thread?

that is hypocritical.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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The reaction or lack there of to our direct involvement in Libya is troubling. Obama instantly took cover behind the NATO shield from day one and maintained cover up until today and beyond.

Even more troubling is the calculated and selective response from this administration to these strategic nations in the region. Obama's admin. was all over Egypt like white on rice to call for the ouster of Mubarek. A pussy cat when compared to Gaddahfi and Assad. We then backed the rebel movement in Libya without ever knowing who the rebels were. Now, they have access to Gaddafi's weapons. Then came the tough talk on Assad in Syria who has been butchering his people for years. Don't forget the pillow talk that came first between Assad and Obama and even Kucinich got into the pillow talk game. Syria is next in line to see a regime change.

Now, look at the massive power vacuum left behind in Egypt, Libya and soon to be Syria. Shariah law is gaining a strong foothold in Egypt and will continue to spread to the other nations in question.
What organization has the power and the resources to pull off the conquest of these three strategic nations???

The Muslim Brotherhood and we have helped them along this entire path. Once they have the permanent foothold in Egypt all bets are off and we cleared the flippin' road for them.

Don't forget that Obama was completely silent when there was hope in the recent uprisings in Iran to topple the aching regime and the rule of the mullahs. Not a word, no support, NOTHING!! Why??

It all makes sense when you look at the sudden and rapid progress the rebels made in Libya virtually over night. Who is bankrolling the $2million reward the rebels are offering for Gaddahfi?



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
The reaction or lack there of to our direct involvement in Libya is troubling. Obama instantly took cover behind the NATO shield from day one and maintained cover up until today and beyond.

Even more troubling is the calculated and selective response from this administration to these strategic nations in the region. Obama's admin. was all over Egypt like white on rice to call for the ouster of Mubarek. A pussy cat when compared to Gaddahfi and Assad. We then backed the rebel movement in Libya without ever knowing who the rebels were. Now, they have access to Gaddafi's weapons. Then came the tough talk on Assad in Syria who has been butchering his people for years. Don't forget the pillow talk that came first between Assad and Obama and even Kucinich got into the pillow talk game. Syria is next in line to see a regime change.

Now, look at the massive power vacuum left behind in Egypt, Libya and soon to be Syria. Shariah law is gaining a strong foothold in Egypt and will continue to spread to the other nations in question.
What organization has the power and the resources to pull off the conquest of these three strategic nations???

The Muslim Brotherhood and we have helped them along this entire path. Once they have the permanent foothold in Egypt all bets are off and we cleared the flippin' road for them.

Don't forget that Obama was completely silent when there was hope in the recent uprisings in Iran to topple the aching regime and the rule of the mullahs. Not a word, no support, NOTHING!! Why??

It all makes sense when you look at the sudden and rapid progress the rebels made in Libya virtually over night. Who is bankrolling the $2million reward the rebels are offering for Gaddahfi?


see ats was that so hard thats what we call a grade a quality post which is ON TOPIC!



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:26 PM
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Yes, and there's talk of Shariah Law in Libya as well, in the new Constitution. I thought all these revolutions were for installing Socialist democracies but it appears to be more like Shariah version of Socialism. I know for certain that Socialism was tried in Tunisia but did not work out well. Their President was in for many years and it's not a bad thing for a new Prez to be there. But there is still chaos and confusion reigning there after the uprising.

Oh yes, and Richard Trumpka bragged openly about his union's role in the Egypt uprising. He has been seen paling around with European Intl Socialists and supporting a World Economic tax.

edit on 24-8-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:32 PM
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Ummmm...you started the thread. Your premise in the OP and, by default, your history/reputation goes hand in hand.

Your entire reason for starting this thread is to complain that people aren't blaming Obama enough! That has everything to do with this thread!

Ya we hate what Obama is doing....but it's not just Obama! You have to realize that.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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and your entire reason for posting in this thread has BEEN TO COMPLAIN ABOUT ME.

i am done feeding the trolls



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:38 PM
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You are right. It is not just Obama. He is the front man. But he definitely has his own agenda too. That is why they can use him. He is a useful tool. Hitler was also a useful tool for very powerful people. Western bankers backed his movement even then.
The Late Prof Antony Sutton wrote of this in many books.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:41 PM
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yah yah yah and the Democrat Congress approved the Bush wars....

Under 'mushroom cloud' rhetoric and the tragedy of 911, and the blame sealed on Iraq, most would probably of done the same, regardless of position.

I am trying to be objective, and not defend any one's particular position, but rather provide a rebuttal to the op's premise that Bush's wars were not any different than the current ones. Of course, all wars could be considered horrific too, but in sheer weight,effect,misgivings and tragedy, I do not see them as equal and in fact see a vast differnce on many levels. I am not implying that bush bad/obama good, just trying to assess the given facts, as well as agree with part of the op's statement:


there IS the biggest double standard when it comes to the left right in this country and it is sickening.

Representing that the bad knows no side and settles across the board, as well as affects us all.
This is just my opinion though

edit on 24-8-2011 by speculativeoptimist because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:51 PM
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I hope you realized that second quote was not mine. It seems to be represented in your post as me saying it. Just wanted to make that clear.



posted on Aug, 25 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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The US has their own Agenda and it has nothing to do with the people of the Countries.


Surely NO ONE thinks we actually care about their freedom and the way they are treated??

The leadership is twisted and they do not care about anything but money(oil and gold). PERIOD.

We are not in all these Countries to free anyone!!!

We here in the US may think we are free but we are so controlled its not even funny! It is going to get much worse and if you think we are helping usher in a 3rd World War....you are correct!

The only way out is to obtain new leadership who has a heart of gold for others and cannot be "bought". This will only happen when the people of the United States stand up in the streets and voice their opinion. The entire US will have to awaken and not be so concerned about Big Brother or any other distraction.

My opinion...



posted on Aug, 25 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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i think this video could potentially reveal some similarities between iraq and libya, with regards to western involvement in both of those countries. to be honest, i just posted this in a similar thread but i was affected by this man's passionate message (and i don't know if this is the correct perspective, but it's a different, seemingly local perspective) that i appreciate simply because it gives me another way, in addistion to what i hear on tv or more mainstream internets sites, to consider what is going on.




posted on Aug, 25 2011 @ 12:34 PM
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Deep down everyone is the same



posted on Aug, 25 2011 @ 12:42 PM
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"I want to know why. . . . . "

Hell, Neo. I don't know why. We let Syrian leader Assad kill thousands and say marginally nothing.
Obama needed/wanted his own war. He got it.
And was smart about it.

Who in the hell likes Qadaffi?

It was a sham-war that Obama can take credit for without actally getting his hands dirty. It can make his followers, his acolytes, feel like important people.

At least, that's my take on it.



posted on Aug, 25 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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please watch the vid i posted above. that guy says lots of people like gadhafi. i'm not saying he's right or wrong, but the way gadhafi has been characterized by MSM is a lot different than what this person says, and he seems actually to be from africa. who know, really? it is a valuable perspective to me.



posted on Aug, 25 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by godWhisperer
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please watch the vid i posted above. that guy says lots of people like gadhafi. i'm not saying he's right or wrong, but the way gadhafi has been characterized by MSM is a lot different than what this person says, and he seems actually to be from africa. who know, really? it is a valuable perspective to me.



I'll pass. No disrespect, but there are hundreds in Lockerbie who might have a different opinion. Sad, thre are plenty of bad-guys Obama could have chosen to wage his war.

I guess Gadhafi got the short straw.



posted on Aug, 25 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by godWhisperer
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please watch the vid i posted above. that guy says lots of people like gadhafi. i'm not saying he's right or wrong, but the way gadhafi has been characterized by MSM is a lot different than what this person says, and he seems actually to be from africa. who know, really? it is a valuable perspective to me.



I'll pass. No disrespect, but there are hundreds in Lockerbie who might have a different opinion. Sad, thre are plenty of bad-guys Obama could have chosen to wage his war.

I guess Gadhafi got the short straw.


ok, fair enough. but what the guy says outlines why MANY people (like, all of africa) feel that gadhafi's efforts have been lied about by the west. but if you don't care to hear that perspective, or waste your time watching a vid, then it's surely your prerogative.

again, i want to be careful to make sure to mention that i am not endorsing the guy in the vid's opinion. i am endorsing the opportunity to hear what sounds like a real african's take on the situation. in light of the BS we are always fed by western media, i appreciate hearing what this guy has to say.



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