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reply posted on 7-10-2011 @ 12:25 AM by LightAssassin
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I can speculate all day but when I see a place like Sacsayhuamán, and things like the Nazca lines and the Carnac stones.....Speculation keeps bringing me back to the same questions.

Sacsayhuamán: How did they mould those rocks together perfectly?

Nazca Lines: Why did they build such large pictures, only for the whole concept to be fully realised by viewing from the sky?

Carnac Stones: Why did they cut and move such massive stones, so many of them, and align them mathematically? So mathematically that one alignment creates a Pythagoras triangle....the problem with that being the Pythagoras theorem came 2000 years later??? And again, it cannot be fully realised unless viewed from the sky.

It does my head in trying to speculate without including an, either, advanced human civilisation, or, extra-terrestrial origin.

Honestly...I am leaning towards extra-terrestrial. I cannot, personally, explain or understand it any other way.
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reply posted on 10-10-2011 @ 05:28 PM by Dionisius
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My GoogleEarth is shocking, can you put up a Pic for those of us with # Internet.

Cheers


reply posted on 13-10-2011 @ 03:02 AM by lastofall
I don't have a URL or any web site to offer. Maybe someone could volunteer to start a new topic or post it here.
Off the coast of Eureka, California just as the ridge (Gorda Escarpment) go out to about 30 miles and see rectangles with a line bottom left to top right. Go out another appox. 30 miles and look on both sides of the ridge to see the designs.
I am trying to be helpful and not too confusing as possible. This is something to look into and see if it is real or fake.
My Google Earth Crashes every time due to low monitor resolution. It's fun to play with for a few seconds. I like to use Google Earth through Google Map or a weather site with map. Turn off waves or ocean view. Ctl - Prt Scrn to capture full screen, paste into Paint or graphics editor and post it.
I've sent emails with 1 response:
to Ahabstar 10-05-2011
Off the coast of Eureka, California at the start of the ridge of what ever name it has, look on both sides and see some more Nazca type designs. Off Washington coast, too. Think Big

Reply to Ahabstar
RE: new nazca
from: Ahabstar
sent: 6-10-2011 at 10:21 PM
Hate to be a stick in the mud, but the white lines are waves and the darker lines are relative floor depth. You will notice that the mouth of the river has dug out quite the channel there near Seattle. But do keep looking. In Nevada you will see bombing run lines that form some interesting diagrams out in the desert.
Ahabstar
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reply posted on 27-12-2011 @ 07:02 PM by fulllotusqigong
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Debunking David Hatcher-Childress' new book on ancient megaliths in South America -- I have a response from a professor in archaeology, Dennis Ogburn, who specializes in South American archaeology in Peru and Ecuador:


The stones were shaped by hand, primarily using harder rounded stones (often quartz river cobbles), and I've seen a number of these in the stone quarries. They also used some bronze tools to extract blocks, but the shaping involving battering the blocks with the hammerstones. Moving the largest stones involved dragging them with ropes, and often required a thousand men or more. They only moved the largest stones over short distances of a few kilometers. The stones they moved up to Ecuador were still quite large, but only up to about 700 kg/1,500 lbs - these I suspect were carried on something made from wooden poles, like a litter. Archaeologists and other researchers have done quite a bit of work on these questions, and there is plenty of historical and archaeological evidence to show that the Incas were quite capable of doing these things using very basic technology in combination with the labor of many thousands of their subjects.



reply posted on 27-12-2011 @ 10:16 PM by AGWskeptic
Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
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post by RA777



Debunking David Hatcher-Childress' new book on ancient megaliths in South America -- I have a response from a professor in archaeology, Dennis Ogburn, who specializes in South American archaeology in Peru and Ecuador:


The stones were shaped by hand, primarily using harder rounded stones (often quartz river cobbles), and I've seen a number of these in the stone quarries. They also used some bronze tools to extract blocks, but the shaping involving battering the blocks with the hammerstones. Moving the largest stones involved dragging them with ropes, and often required a thousand men or more. They only moved the largest stones over short distances of a few kilometers. The stones they moved up to Ecuador were still quite large, but only up to about 700 kg/1,500 lbs - these I suspect were carried on something made from wooden poles, like a litter. Archaeologists and other researchers have done quite a bit of work on these questions, and there is plenty of historical and archaeological evidence to show that the Incas were quite capable of doing these things using very basic technology in combination with the labor of many thousands of their subjects.


Have any of these bronze tools been found?

As old as these megaliths are they have deteriorated too much to be able to say how they were made.

I'm not saying they weren't made the way Ogburn says they were, just that his is only one possibility out of many.


reply posted on 27-12-2011 @ 11:54 PM by fulllotusqigong
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You're implying the Professor pulled the bronze tools out of his backside when he states there's many archaeologists who have the evidence for these tools, how the stones were cut, how they were moved, etc. If he speculates he says he speculates otherwise he's referring to hard evidence he's either seen firsthand like he says or his colleagues have documented on site and published in journals, etc. He says they used bronze tools so they used bronze tools.

Also the sites have been radio-carboned -- they were built by the Incas. O.K. -- they have the quarries, the tools and the radio-carbon testing. I didn't even post the radio-carbon because you can find that on wiki.

Just because there's dozens of youtube vids about people bathering about ancient dating doesn't mean there isn't evidence stating otherwise. If someone makes a youtube video saying -- these rocks are really worn down therefore aliens built the structures -- that's not exactly hard evidence is it. On the other hand there is radiocarbon dating of these sites -- and also x-ray dating.

So to burst peoples' bubbles but then the alien invasion propaganda is spread pretty thick via all the CIA cable shows, etc. as the Stargate Conspiracy book has exposed.
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reply posted on 28-12-2011 @ 12:37 AM by anonentity
reply to post by SLAYER69



A realy good peice of work, that gives us some insight into the way things were. If say Neanderthal men bred with homo sapien women..then logically we might be looking at the female line holding more of the Homo Sapien look.Which in fact it is to this day?.Ask why should childbirth be so dangerous?
Certain conditions would favour neanderthal at certain climate conditions, the type of game etc..Really well thought out peice of work thanks.


reply posted on 28-12-2011 @ 10:03 AM by AGWskeptic
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I don't have as much faith in carbon dating as you do.

www.allaboutarchaeology.org...

They could be off by 10,000 years or more.



reply posted on 28-12-2011 @ 01:25 PM by Hanslune
Originally posted by AGWskeptic
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post by fulllotusqigong



I don't have as much faith in carbon dating as you do.

www.allaboutarchaeology.org...

They could be off by 10,000 years or more.


No, not actually the article - biased by association with YEC, attempts to question the accuracy while the accuracy is known to good if you follow all the procedures and avoid contamination. Tree ring and dating of known materials shows a good accuracy rate.


reply posted on 28-12-2011 @ 10:13 PM by fulllotusqigong
reply to post by AGWskeptic



Yeah that's why they use x-rays. haha. The stones are dated by x-rays.


Evidence for Long-Distance Transportation of Building Stones in the ... www.jstor.org/stable/4141586 by DE Ogburn - 2004 - Cited by 12 - Related articles BUILDING STONES IN THE INKA EMPIRE, FROM CUZCO, PERU. TO SARAGURO ... Wavelength-dispersive X-ray fluorescence determined the concentrations of nine ele- ments in samples ..... dating to the last 26000000 years (Miocene to ..
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reply posted on 13-3-2012 @ 03:07 PM by TheDivineSpirit
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