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Why aren't they selling Pontiac?

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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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Since the Government owns General Motors now, why haven't they sold Pontiac since they ended it?


Even if they sold Pontiac for only $1, wouldn't somebody snatch it up to create jobs...and a product? Even if Joe Blow bought Pontiac to make a limited run of 100 per year, high end American muscle cars for the rich.....wouldn't it create jobs and growth?

Even if someone bought Pontiac for $1, and built Low Speed Vehicles for urban travel....wouldn't it create jobs and growth?


Why hasn't Pontiac been sold yet? You own it...well the Government does thru GM.




posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:24 AM
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It's always been a bad product. I really don't think that anyone would even buy a "super car" from a bad company.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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I'm not going to lie, I love Pontiac vehicles. The Aztek in my opinion, one of the best SUV's ever (prepare for proverbial crap storm of hate) and no I am not trolling. I personally love the 2005-2009 Grand Prixs as they look nice, are quiet and perform well.

If given the opportunity I would purchase Pontiac and start assembling new vehicles.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:45 AM
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What would be sold? The rights to certain models? Like Chrysler buying AMC? They wanted the Jeep and trashed the rest. Or is it more? Like assembly plants?



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:50 AM
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Because there was nothing to sell off other than a name and some badging. There was no car. The factory was a GM factory, not a Pontiac factory. They were just reskinned versions of other GM cars that gave the illusion of another company just like all of GM's other brands. The Toyota Matrix and the Pontiac Vibe were the same car with different outer skins, but the interior dash was the same.

There was no car. For that, you would have to go back to the time when Pontiac was still an independent.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by CAPT PROTON
Because there was nothing to sell off other than a name and some badging. There was no car. The factory was a GM factory, not a Pontiac factory. They were just reskinned versions of other GM cars that gave the illusion of another company just like all of GM's other brands. The Toyota Matrix and the Pontiac Vibe were the same car with different outer skins, but the interior dash was the same.

There was no car. For that, you would have to go back to the time when Pontiac was still an independent.


Well, in Pontiac's defence, the G8, the Grand Prix, Solstice, and the GTO Concept had excellent potential.
I'd be surprised if GM doesn't introduce some "new" models which are probably the above...



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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Sounds like the op owns a pontiac.....

But seriously, pontiacs sales were dismal and worsened every year since at least 2000. Not to mention, their design team was extremely unimaginative and bland. The guy who said he liked the AZTEK, I nearly choked, you were the only one apparently, and that is why it had such a short lifespan. Even the GTO remake, while extremely powerful and had a beautiful throaty exhaust note, was absolutely hideous! It looked like a fat grand prix! The gto was a huge disappointment not just for me but for everyone obviously. The market was there, just look at the charger, challenger, and camarro.

Not to mention, I've known numerous girls who described pontiacs as "gross" lol. What guy wants a car that not only doesn't attract chicks but actively repels them?

And since they were owned and manufactured by GM, it wouldn't make sense to badge a car with a brand people don't care for. Thus they killed pontiac and merged what they could into the other badges.

I'm sorry if I offended any pontiac owners, the truth does hurt sometimes. And if you are going to blast me, do it with facts not whining. I seriously mean no disrespect.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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This too puzzled me, as Pontiac had to be a stronger brand than Saturn. The g6 is everywhere, and that was like one of the last models to be made.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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It used to be said, what it good for GM, is good for America. I guess those days are gone, along with the cars people wrote songs about.

I for one have always loved GM cars and trucks, in fact, I drive a 1990 Chevy G-20 with twin HHO Reactors right now, and love it. As for Pontiac, let me say this.....


And this...(turn up speakers!)


I had a bunch of Pontiacs myself, had a bright red 1966 GTO ragtop, had a 55'55 Star Chief hardtop, and the one I crashed, a 1962 Bonneville with a 421 Tri-Power, for you youngsters, that's three two barrel carburators that came on in sequence, that is the harder you press the accelerator, the more power you have. This car was metalflake gunmetal blue, and had "Runnin' Bare" painted on the read quarters. This beast would melt a set of G-60s in just a few burnouts.

I was racing a friend who had a Ford Torino with a 428 Cobra Jet engine and dual 4-bbl carbs, and I lost control and hit an oak tree at 90 miles and hour. Just before it hit I dove for the passenger side floorboard, and as I laid there I watched as the steering column drive into the bucket seat, rip it right out of it's mountings, and drive it into the back seat. I almost died in that car, but loved it just the same. I still today have the "Bonneville" fender badge from the car. Hope I didn't upset anyone, and I do love Pontiacs. My last one was a 1980 Bonneville with a 1976 455/475 hp engine under the hood, this was a low rider, painted gold, and ran like a deer.

Last, but not least, let us remember a NASCAR Hero, and Famous Race Car Driver, Fireball Roberts. Fireball was sadly burned, and died July 2, 1964 from pneumonia resulting from severe burns suffered in a wreck in the May 24 World 600 at Charlotte.
www.fireball22.com...


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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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2006 GTO owner here...look, all you have to do to make them look real pretty is, get some nice wheels and take the boomerang wing off the trunk!!...i love my Pontiacs (got a '77 Trans-am project as well)...c'mon! smokey and the bandit?! not sure if anyone has seen the new Camaro with the Pontiac conversion kit??? looks so cool! i always liked Pontiacs because there were just too many Chevy's and Ford's on the road...i like to be a little different.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 06:10 PM
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Sure they had excellent potential, and GM could have saved them by rebadging them as Chevy's.

My point is, these cars were based off GM platforms that other GM divisions used, so there was no car company to sell off as the OP inquired. The modern GTO was a Holden, the Solstice was an Opel, the Vibe was a Toyota Matrix, a Firebird was a Chevy Camaro. So again, Pontiac had no cars of its own. I don't know why people think Pontiac was its own fairly independent car company. And by the way, I am a Pontiac owner.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 06:36 PM
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Pontiac had some of the most stylish cars on the market, I don't care what anyone says I have owned a La mans and now we own a 2003 supercharged Grand Prix and this car is just awesome for performance and looks too.
Pontiac made some of the best looking cars available and they jammed a lot of stuff under the hood.
Any Pontiac nay Sayers here are revealing their true age for sure.
Me 50 plus so yeah I know my Pontiac's.
Regards, from an old fart who also has a 86 GMC Wrangler with a HP crate and lots of goodies


Iwinder



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by Iwinder
Pontiac had some of the most stylish cars on the market, I don't care what anyone says I have owned a La mans and now we own a 2003 supercharged Grand Prix and this car is just awesome for performance and looks too.
Pontiac made some of the best looking cars available and they jammed a lot of stuff under the hood.
Any Pontiac nay Sayers here are revealing their true age for sure.
Me 50 plus so yeah I know my Pontiac's.
Regards, from an old fart who also has a 86 GMC Wrangler with a HP crate and lots of goodies


Iwinder


2008 Grand Prix here...with ALL the bells and whistles. Love it!

Des
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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 06:49 PM
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A very good looking car with some serious stuff under the hood.
Who cannot like this?
Maybe a ricer or whatever.
Regards, Iwinder



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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They should have gave us the entire Holden line-up as pontiacs. I have a Holden commodore (g8, caprice, vxr8) and it is the best car I've ever owned.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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Where is your thinking?
Your irrational "solutions" defy a reasonable response.
...At least, I refuse to try.
Tip: Delete this thread.



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