Originally posted by Chrysalis
reply to post by Bluesma
May I remind you that the "Cour des Comptes" was lead by Philippe séguin from 2004 to his death in 2010 ?
Well, you don't need
to, but go ahead. Your comment was refering to the latest reports, which were released under Migaud. So I refered to those
reports, and the criticisms by the present leader of the Cour des Comptes.
And that guy was in the same party than Sarkozy, but i guess you don't care. And it's that same guy that criticised Sarkozy for having hired an
extra 100 people at the Elysée. Who needs that many cooks, servants and nail polishers ?
It is rather a good thing that after his criticism, Sarkozy drastically cut down the spending at the Elysée the next year, enough to get the
salutations of the next guy for it (who is not of the same party as Sarkozy!) He must be listening and reacting, I guess?
And he was also pinned as a survey / poll addict, ordering up to 3 polls a week. It must be a sign that he was confident his policies were
beeing well received on the lower end.
A sign he was confident in the reception of his policies? I would say the opposite. He is gathering feedback- again, listening to the people's
Or what about these two advisors that while working for the ministry of health (a freemason) were still paid by Servier ?
Lots of the doctors and researchers are simultaneously working for different parts of the medical field.
That even if the molecule was deemed having no health benefits at all, they still used tax money to help sell it, even though it was an
established fact that the med was dangerous. It is suspected to have caused over 500 deaths.
It was NOT deemed to have no health benefits at all! It was effective for specific serious problems, and a side effect of wieght loss was exploited by
doctors wishing to please vain clients (at the risk of their health).
Social security paid for the prescriptions people filled, I can only guess that is what you mean? Because Servier is a private lab.
It was established that the medicine, taken outside of it's intended use, on patients without the corresponding health problems, is dangerous. Most
active molecules ARE. Taking iron when you are enemic is good- taking iron when you have Hemochromatosis is bad, for example. Iron is not good or bad
in itself, but it's effects depend upon the context within which it is used. Same with Mediator.
Again, look deeper into these suspected deaths and find out the real way this was claimed by the media. The 500 deaths didn't exist, it is a
mathematical conclusion based on a small survey of deaths occuring years later after the drug was taken off the market, that MAY have been connected
with residual damage to the heart.
This was concluded because a high percentage of these people had taken Mediator once in their life. But correlation is not cause- these people all
happened to be constantly trying various methods of weight loss, and trying many different dangerous ways to do so- the accumulation of which likely
caused heart damage in the long term.
Any molecule which has an effect upon the body can be either a medicine or a poison, depending upon usage- and you trust your doctor to be responsible
in his/her ordinances.
The investigation is following every possible idea to condemn Servier and keeps running into problems making their case, despite what the radio likes
to say. Now they have had to admit that it was only dangerous within the wrongful prescriptions for weight loss.... so they are now trying to find
some evidence that Servier was pushing that usage of it onto doctors (through the lab reps). But that too, is coming up empty. My husband and his
collegues not only gave honest testimony to the pressure they recieve and followed to convince doctors this was dangerous and should not be done,
but also, there is a private group which surveys doctors each time a visitor medicale (lab rep- meets with them. They call and ask the Dr. what the
rep said, what their angle and advice was. This has been carried out for years and documented.
So at least my husband and his collegues are all covered by those documents, which recorded their efforts to make doctors NOT prescribe this medicine
to the wrong patients for weight loss.
Nothing will or can be proven about this because it is a farce. But Servier already knows they will have to agree to pay a lot anyway, because
clearing their name would mean "telling on their clients"- which generally, is bad for business in the long run.
edit on 26-8-2011 by Bluesma because: (no reason given)