WikiLeaks: 35,000 Diplomatic Cables To Be Released

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

Interesting that Obama feels the need to use an Executive Order again rather than congress..

IMO there are FAR too many secrets in Government already..

Since he campaigned on transparent government, I agree. What has me worried are several comments Obama has made about being tempted to just act unilaterily without going through Congress. Obama does have cover though since an executive order only applies to the executive branch of government.

However it creates a nasty catch 22 by targeting whistel blowers. Under the EO its screws them, while Congress passed a law that sets criteria for whistleblowers. It looks like Obamas EO is in confliict with FEderal Law.

As much as redtape and Bureaucracy and the snails pace they operate at annoys me to no end, I would prefer gridlock over a President on an EO bender. So far all the cables look like they resolve around low level info (trade negotiations etc.).

Who knows.

Anyone else find it interestin that when people started asking about assange, this pops up?

Something interesting here:

In November 2007, Egyptian cleric and al-Qa'ida (AQ) leader Ayman al-Zawahiri announced a merger between AQIM and the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). In an audiotape, al-Zawahiri urged AQ fighters to topple the Government of Libya, describing Muammar al-Qadhafi as an "enemy of Islam" and criticizing the 2003 decision to renounce WMD and terrorism. In late September, six leading members of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, being held in the Abu Salim prison, issued a document renouncing violence and claiming to adhere to a more sound Islamic theology than that of Al Qaeda and other jihadist organizations.

http://__._/cable/2009/12/09TRIPOLI1030.html

For not all the rebels are chaotic. One of their commanders, Abdel-Hakim Al-Hasidi, has been a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) since the Nineties.

This is a violent jihadist outfit that, for decades, had been waging a holy war against the Gaddafi regime with an aim of creating an Islamic state.

It was banned worldwide after the 9/11 attacks, when Al-Hasidi fled to Afghanistan.

Now he admits he recruited dozens of Al Qaeda members to the insurgent cause in Iraq, where the LIFG made up the second largest group of foreign fighters; and, worse, that many of his jihadists have joined the rebellion in Libya.

Al-Hasidi said his fighters in Libya ‘are patriots and good Muslims’, but added that Al Qaeda men ‘are also good Muslims and are fighting against the invader’ in Iraq.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...


So we just handed Libya to Al Qaeda on a silver platter and declared them to be the official authority.

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Stavridis, receiver of Joseph Biden praise for Seal Team 6 Bin Laden mission, said - "flickers of Al Qaeda among rebels"....

The UK Telegraph pointed the hypocrisy, 'Al Qaeda and US on same side'...

Libya war is a deception.

currently from twitter:


wikileaks WikiLeaks
We are currently under a sustained DOS attack and have regressed to backup servers. We are fighting to bring up more new servers.

Originally posted by JohnySeagull
currently from twitter:


wikileaks WikiLeaks
We are currently under a sustained DOS attack and have regressed to backup servers. We are fighting to bring up more new servers.

Lol awesome...

Im curious if they acknowledge that turn about is fair play?

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well this is what they think about it :

wikileaks WikiLeaks
Should we, legally, declare war on state agressors that commit infrastructure war crimes against us?
4 minutes ago

WikiLeaks
wikileaks WikiLeaks
Are state directed Denial of Service attacks, legally, a war crime against civilian infrastructure?


twitter.com...#!/wikileaks

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are you sure its not the jester doing this?

Originally posted by JohnySeagull
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

well this is what they think about it :

wikileaks WikiLeaks
Should we, legally, declare war on state agressors that commit infrastructure war crimes against us?
4 minutes ago

WikiLeaks
wikileaks WikiLeaks
Are state directed Denial of Service attacks, legally, a war crime against civilian infrastructure?


twitter.com...#!/wikileaks

Well Assange violted US law by being in possession of and distributing items that do not belong to him. I would say that since assange felt the need to release as much info as he could about the US in an effort to do damage to the US government and its relations with other countries while placing US / NATO / Allied troops in danger, I would say Assange declared war on the US.

Someone is apparently defending themselves from another one of those attacks.

reply to post by Xcathdra


and?

whats the problem.

I have absolutly no respect left for the american government/war machine after seeing how they operate.

reply to post by yeti101


could well be. only quoting what wiki put up.

reply to post by Xcathdra


Right, that statement is about new 3000 files/documents (waiting to be processed,investigated etc) from last year (Jan - Sept) NOT the 250,000 Cables (which are released almost daily by partnering newspapers around the world)

If you bother to read back on Wikileaks tweets, they give you an idea of the type of stuff Daniel got his hands on along with his sidekicks BEFORE they offically left (Daniel was suspended, others left) Wikileaks Organisation to start their OWN whistleblower site - Openleaks


The files/documents Daniel took are NOT the 250,000 Cable Documents

Twitter hactivists and net neutrality hactivists follow the ins and outs when it comes to USG cracking down not just on whistleblowers (not just wikileaks) but internet freedoms with OFFICAL USG documents

You are right the MSM wont cover this stuff, but for most twitter net neutrality hactivists account holders they are keeping a close eye on all that stuff and sharing information (offical documents/statements/bills etc) with each other

People still believe this WikiLeaks brainwashing?
You do know WL, is a government reptilian front right?
There's no way these servers would still be up, if it was a legitimate site.

"The global structure is shifting from the United States being the unilateral hegemon towards China and the United States being the hegemonies with a mechanism of coordination to run the world jointly.

Interesting cable on US/China/N.Korea

"The global structure is shifting from the United States being the unilateral hegemon towards China and the United States being the hegemonies with a mechanism of coordination to run the world jointly.

"The greatest threat to the US' homeland security is not a terrorist attack with a dirty bomb; it is an unexpected, nuclear Pearl Harbor. The basic US national security strategy is misdirected."

www.cablegatesearch.net...

reply to post by Xcathdra

Well Assange violted US law

I thought they couldn't find a fitting law and even considered writing up a new one.

You know, like they did with David Hicks and then applied it retrospectively..

Amazing huh, charged with breaking a law that didn't exist, justice at it's finest in the US.

This mad. So much info. You can search for anything. The secret cables tend to be at the end of the files. So if you are in the Isreal section all the good stuf is at the end.

http://__._/tag/IS_83.html

They have just added:

WikiLeaks
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RELEASE: 515 US-Rwanda diplomatic cables http://__._/tag/RW_0.html
8 minutes ago
WikiLeaks
wikileaks WikiLeaks
RELEASE: 1,860 US-Indonesia diplomatic cables __._/tag/ID_0.html
12 minutes ago
WikiLeaks
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RELEASE: 2,331 US-France diplomatic cables __._/tag/FR_0.html
19 minutes ago
WikiLeaks
wikileaks WikiLeaks
RELEASE: 2,965 US-Afghanistan diplomatic cables __._/tag/AF_0.html
22 minutes ago
WikiLeaks
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RELEASE: 1,525 US-German diplomatic cables __._/tag/GE_0.html
25 minutes ago
WikiLeaks
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RELEASE: 1,901 US-Iran diplomatic cables __._/tag/IR_0.html
25 minutes ago
WikiLeaks
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RELEASE: 624 US-Venezuala cables __._/tag/VE_0.html
28 minutes ago
WikiLeaks
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RELEASE: 2,226 US-Russia diplomatic cables __._/tag/RS_0.html
30 minutes ago
WikiLeaks
wikileaks WikiLeaks
RELEASE: 3,925 US-Israel diplomatic cables __._/tag/IS_0.html #wlfind

twitter.com...#!/wikileaks

I think based on history, that if th3j35t3r was DOSing wikileaks again that he would have tweeted that he had done so.

just my opinion.

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Thanks for the link, I'll have to go through these later. Will keep checking back to see what everyone has uncovered.

The DDoS attacks are very interesting, damage control?

Wikileaks Our Californian DNS hoster, Dynadot, has received a PATRIOT act production order for information on Julian Assange. It has complied. The production order seeks all available information on Julian Assange and WikiLeaks, for the US grand jury in Alexandria, Washington.

afgan cables

I do think its wrong to dole this information out only in response to an attack on them but whatever beggars cant be choosers.

The German Federal Security Council's (BSR) anticipated November 5 decision to allow the export of Puma helicopters to Afghanistan (Ref A) did not take place. Since then, Presidential Airways has moved the helicopters to Afghanistan without the required GOG permission. The GOG has again deferred action on this case and will not act before late January 2009. The situation now likely constitutes a violation of Germany's export laws. To date, CDA and EMIN have engaged with senior MFA officials and, while this matter has not yet become public, we expect that it could soon and request Department assistance in developing a coordinated interagency respons

Presidential Airways (PA) purchased three Puma helicopters in Germany from Eurocopter Deutschland (ED). PA anticipated using these in support of a contract to provide logistics and transport services in Afghanistan and sought an export license from the German export control authorities. This export case attracted attention at the highest levels of the German Government, reportedly including Chancellor Merkel. PA moved the helicopters from Germany, initially to Turkey, then Georgia, then Azerbaijan, without securing an export license. PA and the GOG had agreed informally in November to have the helicopters remain in Baku, Azerbaijan pending a GOG decision on the export permit application. Presidential Airways is owned by the Prince Group, Inc., which also owns the Blackwater security company

source

INSURANCE FILE CONTENT REVEALED

great how infos get lost due to hundrets of threads on one and the same topic...

again:

meanwhile in germany: ex-wikileaks member Daniel Domscheit-Berg (DDB) gets kicked out the CCC and deletes ALL the insurance file information and his key under the eyes of his lawyer...and is now working for the german CIA and trys to build his own wikileaks called openleaks...

and some people still believe anonymous & wikileaks is all cia...

the insurance file includes:

The material is irreplaceable and includes substantial information on many issues of public importance, human rights abuses, mass telecommunications interception, banking and the planning of dozens of neo-nazi groups.

and more got revealed:

We can confirm that the claimed DDB destroyed data included more than 60,000 emails from the NPD We can confirm that the DDB claimed destroyed data included US intercept arrangements for over a hundred internet companies We can confirm that the DDB claimed destroyed whistleblower data included the internals of around 20 neo-Nazi organizations We can confirm that the DDB claimed destroyed data included five gigabytes from the Bank of America. We can confirm that the DDB claimed destroyed data included a copy of the entire US no-fly list.

but haters gona hate anyway...

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

Well Assange violted US law

I thought they couldn't find a fitting law and even considered writing up a new one.

You know, like they did with David Hicks and then applied it retrospectively..

Amazing huh, charged with breaking a law that didn't exist, justice at it's finest in the US.

You should do some research before you make a claim thats not true. Hicks was charged under the Military commission Act, and when that act was ruled unconstitutional, a new tribunal setup was established, and hicks had his charges revised to comply with the new setup.

Ex Post Facto does not apply to these cases.