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Elenin is gettin close, go ahead and get mad at this post fact is fact

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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by IceFlower

 


off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 




he probably didn't do his chores, and had his internet privileges taken away. id still like an answer to my original question to him.




posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 09:01 PM
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Elenin Elohim





posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 09:22 PM
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This is now FOUR alignments in a row and I think it's too much of a coincidence at this point. Please consider we don't know all there is to know. Who are we to say our version of physics is the final answer when we live in a universe/multiverse of infinite possibilities? What if the "comet" is made of an unknown chemical composition that is extremely dense and has a consequentially large magnetic force? I'm only watching the data, but the possibilities are truly endless. Just keeping an open mind here.... Check my data below:

C/2010 X1/Seismic Activity

Below is 3 months of alignments and correlating seismic data I’ve collected in a weekly format of 5.0 or greater earthquakes. I was unfortunately unable to collect data from 7/6/11- 7/16/11 due to unforeseen circumstances. However, I checked daily reports and didn’t see any significant earthquakes during that period. No alignments between the Sun, ELENIN and any other planets occurred during that time.


Date Range Earthquakes 5.0> Alignment(s)

4/25/2011-5/1/2011 34 None
5/2/2011-5/9/2011 36 None
5/10/2011-5/17/2011 58 Sun, Venus and ELENIN
5/18/2011-5/25/2011 32 None
5/26/2011-6/1/2011 29 None
6/2/2011-6/8/2011 35 None
6/9/2011-6/15/2011 36 None
6/16/2011-6/22/2011 36 None
6/23/2011-6/29/2011 36 None
6/30/2011-7/6/2011 24 (7.8 on 7/6/11) Sun, Mercury, ELENIN

I added “largest earthquake magnitude” as a metric on the data below:

Date Range # of 5.0> EQs ELE Alignment Largest EQ Magnitude

7/16/2011 - 7/22/2011 34 None 6.3
7/23/2011 - 7/29/2011 45 Sun, ELE & Jupiter 6.4
7/30/2011 - 8/5/2011 31 None 6.6
8/6/2011 - 8/12/2011 34 None 5.9

Future Alignments and Events Date Note

Mars, Sun & ELE 8/22 – 8/27 Colorado, East Coast Earthquake and 7.0 Peru Earthquake



8/31/2011 ELE will be visible by the naked eye

Mercury, Mars, Earth & ELE 9/6/2011

9/10/2011 ELE will come closest to the Sun

9/11/2011 ELE will pass above the ecliptic

Sun, Mercury & ELE 9/25/2011

9/26/2011 ELE minimum angle relative to the sun will be 1.9º

Sun, ELE & Earth 9/23-9/28 The Sun, ELE and Earth will be at their closest alignment distance. ELE and Earth will come within .352 AU from each other on 11/28. For comparison, the Sun is 1.00 AU from Earth and Jupiter is 5.2 AU from the Sun. One AU is ~93 million miles. If you include the nature of gravity, it's wells and portals that hold our solar system in place, the end of September of this year may be when we experience the most havoc on our planet. I make this assumption based on the data above, which suggests the incoming celestial body has more to it then NASA is revealing.


10/17/2011 ELE will be at it’s closest distance to the Earth (.232 AU)

10/20/2011 ELE will enter our orbit and Earth may experience gravitational effects

11/02/2011 Earth will enter recent location of ELE "comet" tail

Mercury, Venus, Earth & ELE 11/11/201

Sun, Mercury, Earth & ELE 12/4/2011

Mars, ELE & Jupiter 12/25/2011

Last syzygy (alignment) with the Sun, Earth and ELEnin before it swings out of our solar system: December 21, 2012 (Beginning of the Age of Aquarius)

My Sources:

ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...

Here is my seismic data source. It only goes back one month of history, hence the reason I had to keep my own records:

www.iris.edu...


edit on 24-8-2011 by my3911 because: Current Alignment Period



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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I completely agree with the O.P. I have said it before with this subject, I'm on the fence. Let's look at the two possible scenarios .... We know there is something approaching but it is so unclear on the mass/size/makeup. I will assume it is relatively small and made up mostly of ice. Exciting to watch, low risk of serious damage to the Earth and everything living on it. The second scenario is something large or perhaps enormous. At .0023 A.U's we could have many problems on the horizon. Gravity moving the earth and moon, pole shift or at the least many natural disasters. If there is anything we can do to prepare, it's a case hope for the best, plan for the worst.
Why this would make peole angry is beyond me other than some peole hate feeling hopeless and not in control. So you're welcome to try to make me feel better about it possibly not happening, bur it won't change is that are considering the possibility.



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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News Release: 2011-255 Aug. 16, 2011

Comet Elenin Poses No Threat to Earth

The full version of this story with accompanying images is at:
www.jpl.nasa.gov...

Often, comets are portrayed as harbingers of gloom and doom in movies and on
television, but most pose no threat to Earth. Comet Elenin, the latest comet to visit our
inner solar system, is no exception. Elenin will pass about 22 million miles (35 million
kilometers) from Earth during its closest approach on Oct. 16, 2011.

Also known by its astronomical name C/2010 X1, the comet was first detected on Dec.
10, 2010 by Leonid Elenin, an observer in Lyubertsy, Russia, who made the discovery
"remotely" using an observatory in New Mexico. At that time, Elenin was about 401
million miles (647 million kilometers) from Earth. Since its discovery, Comet Elenin
has – as all comets do – closed the distance to Earth's vicinity as it makes its way
closer to perihelion, its closest point to the sun.

NASA scientists have taken time over the last several months to answer your
questions. Compiled below are the some of the most popular questions, with answers
from Don Yeomans of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office at NASA's Jet
Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., and David Morrison of the NASA
Astrobiology Institute at the NASA Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif.

Most Popular Questions About Comet Elenin

When will Comet Elenin come closest to the Earth and appear the brightest?

Comet Elenin should be at its brightest shortly before the time of its closest approach to
Earth on Oct. 16, 2011. At its closest point, it will be 22 million miles (35 million
kilometers) from us.

Will Comet Elenin come close to the Earth or between the Earth and the moon?

Comet Elenin will not come closer to Earth than 22 million miles (35 million
kilometers). That's more than 90 times the distance to the moon.

Can this comet influence us from where it is, or where it will be in the future? Can
this celestial object cause shifting of the tides or even tectonic plates here on
Earth?

There have been incorrect speculations on the Internet that alignments of comet
Elenin with other celestial bodies could cause consequences for Earth and external
forces could cause comet Elenin to come closer. "Any approximate alignments of
comet Elenin with other celestial bodies are meaningless, and the comet will not
encounter any dark bodies that could perturb its orbit, nor will it influence us in any
way here on Earth," said Don Yeomans, a scientist at NASA JPL.

"Comet Elenin will not only be far away, it is also on the small side for comets," said
Yeomans. "And comets are not the most densely-packed objects out there. They
usually have the density of something akin to loosely packed icy dirt.

"So you've got a modest-sized icy dirtball that is getting no closer than 35 million
kilometers [about 22 million miles)," said Yeomans. "It will have an immeasurably
miniscule influence on our planet. By comparison, my subcompact automobile exerts
a greater influence on the ocean's tides than comet Elenin ever will."

I've heard about three days of darkness because of Comet Elenin. Will Elenin
block out the sun for three days?

"As seen from the Earth, comet Elenin will not cross the sun's face," says Yeomans.

But even if it could cross the sun, which it can't, astrobiologist David Morrison notes
that comet Elenin is about 2-3 miles (3-5 kilometers) wide, while the sun is roughly
865,000 miles (1,392,082 kilometers) across. How could such a small object block the
sun, which is such a large object?

Let's think about an eclipse of the sun, which happens when the moon appears
between the Earth and the sun. The moon is about 2,500 miles (4,000 kilometers) in
diameter, and has the same apparent size as the sun when it is about 250,000 miles
(400,000 kilometers) away -- roughly 100 times its own diameter. For a comet with a
diameter of about 2-3 miles (3-5 kilometers) to cover the sun it would have to be within
250 miles (400 kilometers), roughly the orbital altitude of the International Space
Station. However, as stated above, this comet will come no closer to Earth than 22
million miles.

I've heard there is a "brown dwarf" theory about Comet Elenin. Would its mass be
enough to pull Comet Honda's trajectory a significant amount? Could this be used
to determine the mass of Elenin?

Morrison says that there is no 'brown dwarf theory' of this comet. "A comet is nothing
like a brown dwarf. You are correct that the way astronomers measure the mass of one
object is by its gravitational effect on another, but comets are far too small to have a
measureable influence on anything."

If we had a black or brown dwarf in our outer solar system, I guess no one could
see it, right?

"No, that's not correct," says Morrison. "If we had a brown dwarf star in the outer solar
system, we could see it, detect its infrared energy and measure its perturbing effect on
other objects. There is no brown dwarf in the solar system, otherwise we would have
detected it. And there is no such thing as a black dwarf."

Will Comet Elenin be visible to the naked eye when it's closer to us? I missed Hale-
Bopp's passing, so I want to know if we'll actually be able to see something in the
sky when Elenin passes.

We don't know yet if Comet Elenin will be visible to the naked eye. Morrison says, "At
the rate it is going, seeing the comet at its best in early October will require binoculars
and a very dark sky. Unfortunately, Elenin is no substitute for seeing comet Hale-Bopp,
which was the brightest comet of the past several decades."

"This comet may not put on a great show. Just as certainly, it will not cause any
disruptions here on Earth. But, there is a cause to marvel," said Yeomans. "This
intrepid little traveler will offer astronomers a chance to study a relatively young comet
that came here from well beyond our solar system's planetary region. After a short
while, it will be headed back out again, and we will not see or hear from Elenin for
thousands of years. That's pretty cool."

This comet has been called 'wimpy' by NASA scientists. Why?

"We're talking about how a comet looks as it safely flies past us," said Yeomans of
NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office. "Some cometary visitors arriving from
beyond the planetary region – like Hale-Bopp in 1997 -- have really lit up the night sky
where you can see them easily with the naked eye as they safely transit the inner-solar
system. But Elenin is trending toward the other end of the spectrum. You'll probably
need a good pair of binoculars, clear skies and a dark, secluded location to see it even
on its brightest night."

Why aren't you talking more about Comet Elenin? If these things are small and
nothing to worry about, why has there been no public info on Comet Elenin?

Comet Elenin hasn't received much press precisely because it is small and faint.
Several new comets are discovered each year, and you don't normally hear about
them either. The truth is that Elenin has received much more attention than it deserves
due to a variety of Internet postings that are untrue. The information NASA has on
Elenin is readily available on the Internet. (See
www.jpl.nasa.gov... ) If this comet were any
danger to anyone, you would certainly know about it. For more information, visit
NASA's AsteroidWatch site at www.jpl.nasa.gov...

I've heard NASA has observed Elenin many times more than other comets. Is this
true, and is NASA playing this comet down?

NASA regularly detects, tracks and characterizes asteroids and comets passing
relatively close to Earth using both ground- and space-based telescopes. The Near-
Earth Object Observations Program, commonly called "Spaceguard," discovers these
objects, characterizes a subset of them and predicts their paths to determine if any
could be potentially hazardous to our planet. For more information, visit the NASA-JPL
Near Earth objects site at neo.jpl.nasa.gov... .

However, neither NASA nor JPL is in the business of actively observing Elenin or any
other comet. Most of the posted observations are made by amateur astronomers
around the world. Since Elenin has had so much publicity, it naturally has attracted
more observers.

I was looking at the orbital diagram of Comet Elenin on the JPL website, and I was
wondering why the orbit shows some angles when zooming? If you pick any
other comet, you can see that there are no angles or bends.

Many people are trying to plot the orbit of the comet with the routine on the JPL
website, without realizing that this is just a simple visualization tool. While the tool has
been recently improved to show smoother trajectories near the sun, it is not a scientific
program to generate an accurate orbit. Yeomans explains that the orbit plotter on the
Near-Earth Object website is not meant to accurately depict the true motion of objects
over long time intervals, nor is it accurate during close planetary encounters. For more
accurate long-term plotting, Yeomans suggests using the JPL Horizons system
instead:
ssd.jpl.nasa.gov.../2010%20X1 .

#2011-255

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Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
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posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 09:38 PM
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I wish I could give you a star, but it seems disabled.

What you say is true, and the coincidences are overwhelming. I also don't believe in coincidence, doesn't mean I know whats going happen. Like you said, who could?



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 09:38 PM
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Yeah I've seen this release and watched the official video. Of course it all makes perfect sense, but why would they tell us the truth? We know our government lies to us. Why wouldn't NASA? It is our government and it filters what is released to the public. It's been doing this since the Mercury missions (that we know of). Of course they would spend all the energy, time and money to release a video and write up an official release document. They don't want to cause premature mass panic now would they? If I were in charge, I would make the same decision. Food for thought...



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 09:52 PM
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You Elenin believers aren't helping your cause with all the crappy spelling and grammar.

Just another wannabe doomsday scenario for you types, just like May 11th, remember that?



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:03 PM
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when we dont even know what it is yet


Wrong. YOU don't know what is.



I dont care what Leonid Elenin says..


Yes of course, that's obvious because you just admitted you don't know what it is, and you also think there is a relationship between comets and earthquakes



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by LAMudd
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Ok. So by your figures ELENIN has roughly a 1.5% reduction in its trajectory every time around. At those figures, starting at 401 million miles, and this is just rough, the trajectory has gone from 401mm, to 134mm (or 170mm give or take a few million), to 45mm (give or take), to 15mm (etc.), to 5mm (I'm sure you get the point by now), to 2mm (when will it stop), to splat.
Not a very encouraging thought.....


Have a nice day anyway

edit on 24-8-2011 by LAMudd because: grammer and such


Hi....I got those numbers from NASA.......the closet the comet will be...is 22 million miles in October.....you have a wonderful day also!



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by gtrayler
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I think you are wrong. I am over 70 and my spelling along with my use of grammer is poor. I have run a company for years and did quite well, so I think you want too much credit for your spelling ability and know nothing about people and ability.


No, I want NO credit for my spelling because I am a horrible speller.
I just think that if you are going to start a thread which you expect for people to take seriously then you should
take the time to do the little things like......oh I don't know.......CAPITALIZE the first letter of the first word in a GODDAMNED sentence. Maybe not using multiple commas in a row, use periods at the end of your sentences, you know, the little things.

So, you can pick me apart all you want to but in the end, I'm not the one starting a thread with a second grade education and trying to convince people that a big ball of ice in space is causing Earthquakes.
As another poster already stated, how this got past the mods is beyond me. I'll go a step further and say,how this thread has a single flag or star is beyond me.

It is one thing to be an adult with a second grade education, it is quite another to applaud the ignorance being posted by an adult with a second grade education.

If you owned a successful buisness and you are 70 years old (not sure what that has to do with anything)
then that is great for you. It really has NOTHING whatsoever to do with my point.
You have addressed absolutely NOTHING of what I have said and my point has been totally lost on you it seems.
edit on 24-8-2011 by Screwed because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by MentalGiant
Where is that pic that shows a red planet flying through space with a pair of weird wing looking things?
That was a weird piic.

Bueller? Bueller.






posted on Aug, 24 2011 @ 10:38 PM
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We know our government lies to us. Why wouldn't NASA? It is our government


This is VERY wrong! NASA is both a government agency and civilian agency. They are not the American government, nor does the government control them. Long story short, NASA is a private company that started with Nazi scientists after WW2. They are not owned by the government, but the elite.

We currently have 9 comets \ meteors directed towards earth, all will make an appearance between 2011 - 2013. Only 1 will hit us and it will hit a third of the oceans, the only importance about elenin is her alignments.

During the end times, the wise will be considered fools while the foolish are considered wise. Eternal Truth will not be believed by the masses, 5 billion humans are going to perish in the next few months. It's not about surviving, faith or material objects. It's about bringing a new age to earth and waking us up.

Only when your homes are in ruins, paper money burning, family in fear and confusion, will you realise that material objects are worthless and you will throw everything you believed you "knew" out the window.

I was atheist at one point in my life, but I continued to research science and it brought me to The Source.



posted on Aug, 25 2011 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by wutz4tom

Originally posted by avatarded1
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yes quakes are every hour......but a 5.9 or 6.......but not in virginia let alone the united states..
good point..not this size and in Virginia for more than 100 years. star 4 u


Bad point, we generally get a roughly 5.0 EVERY century or so. We have been 40+ years overdue. I live in Richmond, I have actually felt smaller ones before.



posted on Aug, 25 2011 @ 12:59 AM
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You know I bet if you knew even half of what you're trying to talk about, your whole perspective would change...do you seriously think this isn't a comet? and if so prove it! cause there's more proof showings it's a comet, than not..



posted on Aug, 25 2011 @ 02:07 AM
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Which comet will hit us? How do you know this? Who or what is your source? I'm just curious, since you made such a confident claim. Please don't answer with, "I have been enlightened/informed." A piece of evidence or source that is solid and something I can see instead of it just being a dream, prediction, or "someone told me" sort of thing would be nice.
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posted on Aug, 25 2011 @ 02:45 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
Well, Elenin is getting closer but I wouldn't really call it close.



umm phage...why do i sense a bit of doubt in your post...lol....



posted on Aug, 25 2011 @ 03:18 AM
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Okay this crap is getting annoying, please explain to me how this works, go on tell me the scientific explanation behind this....how could a comet aligning with OTHER planets possibly create earthquakes here on Earth?
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posted on Aug, 25 2011 @ 03:23 AM
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Originally posted by Nobama
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Okay this crap is getting annoying, please explain to me how this works, go on tell me the scientific explanation behind this....how could a comet aligning with OTHER planets possibly create earthquakes here on Earth?
edit on 25-8-2011 by Nobama because: (no reason given)



it doesnt
Solar flares and CMEs omitted from the sun are a major cause for eathquakes and seismic activity... not a #ing comet/brown dawrf/ whatever the hell people wanna call it.

its actually been investigated by scientists and they are starting to come to terms with it

next topic anyone

enough about some comet with abilitys to shake the earth, jeeeeeeeeeeeeez



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