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Not to put too finer point on it, but if you won't or cannot answer or refute to a logical degree the points raised, what make you think you deserve an answer yourself?
Originally posted by Yankee451
reply to post by spikey
Not to put too finer point on it, but if you won't or cannot answer or refute to a logical degree the points raised, what make you think you deserve an answer yourself?
They can't answer with anything definitive, because doing so would move the conversation along towards a logical conclusion, so they blow the conversation apart, or swarm the threads with nonsense, or name-call to get our goats, and then poof-
they're gone.
Originally posted by waypastvne
Originally posted by patternfinder
what happened to the 47 steel vertical columns that just fell in on themselves?
The stood for wail after the collapse, then failed at the joints, as can be seen in the videos.
The question was:
How long does it take to shear these off the walls.?
"On Sept. 11, 2001 nineteen men hijacked 4 American planes, took control and crashed the planes into the World Trade Center towers, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania. Those 19 and those that supported them are responsible for the deaths. End of story."
Can you prove that?Do you believe everything your tv tells you?
you know what I see when I see that picture? The American flags...reminds me of the Apollo shots with the flag highlighted.
Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by patternfinder
I'm fully prepared to admit i could be wrong on this, and i'm sure someone will correct me if i am, but that bracket look like it's only holding up an air conditioning duct to me...it doesn't look like anything structural at all.
It's fire proofed, but looking behind it, looks like a square air con duct.
Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by patternfinder
I'm fully prepared to admit i could be wrong on this, and i'm sure someone will correct me if i am, but that bracket look like it's only holding up an air conditioning duct to me...it doesn't look like anything structural at all.
It's fire proofed, but looking behind it, looks like a square air con duct.
Originally posted by patternfinder
if that was the only thing holding the building up, i
Originally posted by Yankee451
reply to post by patternfinder
you know what I see when I see that picture?
The American flags...reminds me of the Apollo shots with the flag highlighted.
good point and where do you think they got those jump suits in such short notice that say "collapse rescue team" i didn't know they had their own collapse rescue team!!!!!
Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
good point and where do you think they got those jump suits in such short notice that say "collapse rescue team" i didn't know they had their own collapse rescue team!!!!!
On top of that, a collapse rescue team from Maryland, even though the collapse happened in Virginia. Those guys are fast.
Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
you know what I see when I see that picture? The American flags...reminds me of the Apollo shots with the flag highlighted.
Yeah, let's not forget our little American flags while we go out on this vital search and rescue mission, because we all know that American flags are key to saving lives during such a disaster.
In the second half of the 20th century, the burgeoning American media was co-opted by something called Operation Mockingbird, the CIA's subversion of the free press in America. Frank Wisner, who ran the project in the 1940s and 1950s for the Agency, once famously said that the American media was like his own "...personal Wurlitzer; I can play any tune I want on it and America will follow along."
In the 1970s, CIA director William Colby admitted, "The CIA owns assets at every major media outlet in America, TV networks, newspapers, publishing houses, and magazines."
In a 1977 Rolling Stone article, Carl Bernstein estimated that there were hundreds, perhaps thousands, of CIA-friendly assets at all the major TV networks, newspapers and periodicals in America.
We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false. -- William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Originally posted by Yankee451
Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
you know what I see when I see that picture? The American flags...reminds me of the Apollo shots with the flag highlighted.
Yeah, let's not forget our little American flags while we go out on this vital search and rescue mission, because we all know that American flags are key to saving lives during such a disaster.
I think the message of this thread was to try to work together. It doesn't sound like you have your heart in this.
My point was it looks like a staged shot. The wheel size is wrong for a reason; confusion, and to give the truth movement something to talk about.
The American flags, the brave men in their jumpsuits on their "vital search and rescue" mission are the message, but the image can only be trusted as far as you can trust the men who said these things:
In the second half of the 20th century, the burgeoning American media was co-opted by something called Operation Mockingbird, the CIA's subversion of the free press in America. Frank Wisner, who ran the project in the 1940s and 1950s for the Agency, once famously said that the American media was like his own "...personal Wurlitzer; I can play any tune I want on it and America will follow along."
In the 1970s, CIA director William Colby admitted, "The CIA owns assets at every major media outlet in America, TV networks, newspapers, publishing houses, and magazines."
In a 1977 Rolling Stone article, Carl Bernstein estimated that there were hundreds, perhaps thousands, of CIA-friendly assets at all the major TV networks, newspapers and periodicals in America.
We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false. -- William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Propagandists will often appeal to emotion rather than reason.edit on 25-8-2011 by Yankee451 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by patternfinder
Originally posted by Yankee451
Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
you know what I see when I see that picture? The American flags...reminds me of the Apollo shots with the flag highlighted.
Yeah, let's not forget our little American flags while we go out on this vital search and rescue mission, because we all know that American flags are key to saving lives during such a disaster.
I think the message of this thread was to try to work together. It doesn't sound like you have your heart in this.
My point was it looks like a staged shot. The wheel size is wrong for a reason; confusion, and to give the truth movement something to talk about.
The American flags, the brave men in their jumpsuits on their "vital search and rescue" mission are the message, but the image can only be trusted as far as you can trust the men who said these things:
In the second half of the 20th century, the burgeoning American media was co-opted by something called Operation Mockingbird, the CIA's subversion of the free press in America. Frank Wisner, who ran the project in the 1940s and 1950s for the Agency, once famously said that the American media was like his own "...personal Wurlitzer; I can play any tune I want on it and America will follow along."
In the 1970s, CIA director William Colby admitted, "The CIA owns assets at every major media outlet in America, TV networks, newspapers, publishing houses, and magazines."
In a 1977 Rolling Stone article, Carl Bernstein estimated that there were hundreds, perhaps thousands, of CIA-friendly assets at all the major TV networks, newspapers and periodicals in America.
We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false. -- William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Propagandists will often appeal to emotion rather than reason.edit on 25-8-2011 by Yankee451 because: (no reason given)
he's on our side yank, he was making fun of them for wearing the american flags to get the "desired effect"
Originally posted by Yankee451
Propagandists will often appeal to emotion rather than reason.